Latest email from Justice Democrats, bashing OUR Democratic Party:

[George II]

George,

Former Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chair Tom Perez has taken a job as a partner at an anti-union law and lobbying firm — continuing the revolving door between corporate interests and the Democratic Party.

Perez’s new firm represents dozens of corporations and trade associations, including the oil and gas industry, credit card companies, and Wall Street. And as Obama’s former Secretary of Labor, Tom Perez is joining this firm despite its history of anti-union work, such as defending employers in unfair labor practice allegations and fighting union organizing campaigns.

The DNC is too often a revolving door of corporate money, special interests, and lobbying groups, all working together to stop the progressive agenda put forth by Justice Democrats in Congress.

If we want to defeat the status quo system that benefits the wealthiest of Americans, we need to elect working-class progressives powered by people, not corporate campaign contributions. Will you chip in towards our movement to transform the Democratic party and fight these corporate interests?

Every Justice Democrat on our slate and in Congress is a threat to the relationship between special interests, corporations, and the Democratic party. And now, with Tom Perez as a partner at one of DC’s most powerful law and lobbying firms, our work to challenge corporate Democrats influenced by Big Money is even more important.

We’re ready to elect a wave of Justice Democrats to Congress who will fight for green union jobs, the right to organize, and policies that will uplift working Americans.That is why we’re asking, will you contribute $3 to help elect the Justice Democrats that will help transform the Democratic Party?

In solidarity,

Justice Democrats

[walkingman]

1. I've just blown off accusations by many that the DNC was a problem but

when I see and read this kind of stuff it is a big turnoff. Surely we can do better?

[Hortensis]

7. JDers actively worked to defeat Dems in 2016, urging people to leave

the Democratic Party/refuse to vote Democrat. They knew anti-progressive, increasingly authoritarian Republicans, Trump, the next SCOTUS appointment(s) were the alternative.

Right now they've shifted tactics from attacking the Democratic mainstream from outside to infiltrating -- emboldened in this era of extremist craziness to believe they can take over from inside, using many of the same tactics Republicans use to win these days. Exactly like this attack.

The progressive liberals who make up the vast majority of the left don't have to do a single thing to be better in every way. We're not them. They're not us. We also outnumber them by hundreds to one.

[George II]

28. We outnumber them by a hundred to one, but the noise is roughly equal. Thankfully....

..."mainstream" and "corporate" Democrats do their jobs, it's not all about talk to them.

[Hortensis]

50. :) Those who can, do. JD types can't do, by nature.

They're as committed to their delusions as the trumpists are to theirs and can't cooperate with the liberal mainstream they both so irrationally loathe. Their passion is always focused on taking over.

Meanwhile, Democrats who can are threatening to cut short the bad times radical movements grow on.

[mcar]

35. Perez is not the DNC chair anymore

[comradebillyboy]

2. Too bad that the "Justice Democrats" don't seem to be

interested in working with the Democratic Party to achieve progress.

[In It to Win It]

3. ...so Tom Perez can't get a new job?

[George II]

4. Apparently not. Remember the hue and cry when Eric Holder took a job at a "corporate law firm"?

He was never transformed into the right wing monster people thought he would become. Instead he helped for the National Democratic Redistricting Committee and has been working for fair redistricting all over the country.

[WA-03 Democrat]

8. Only one that they approve of

We all know they once a DNC chairman overseas a President, House of Representatives and Senate major victory wins, that they may only get a new job if it is approved by non-democratic party members.

Democratic Party members do not denigrate the party’s chairman. Especially historically significant ones.

They are trying to take over the Democratic Party the way Trump and Goldwater did. Minority ruled political parties don’t last long or govern well. Populist suck.

[George II]

17. I remember when Goldwater lost so badly, everybody said the republican party was dead...

Unfortunately "reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated" (Mark Twain)

[ShazamIam]

5. What is the origin of this letter? What date? Who am I suppose to be angry at?

[Budi]

13. Its an email generated daily to the vast voter data list they 'acquired'

It's mass messaging against the Democratic Party & generated daily by the Silicon Valley millionares who originally started their political group.

[ShazamIam]

15. So, one of those operations called a political dirty trick, where it is a fake group

created for division.

[Budi]

6. Gee. You get all that for just $3.00! Waleed's been kickin those donation emails out like a madman.

Hello FEC.
Speaking of Corporate Big Money funneling donations undetectibly under the FEC limit for triggering an investigation...

Waleed never met a DEMOCRAT he didn't despise. Cashing in 3 bucks to sell his organized fringe hate for American Democracy, is just a bonus.

Silicon Valley trust fund wealthy millionares started JDems.

"MONEY & MEDIA" they said

[SheltieLover]

9. Why are they allowed to call themselves Democrats?

[betsuni]

10. OMG, someone has a law job, how capitalistic and corrupt and not "working class,"

who are the only people in the world able to be progressive and understand economic inequality.

All the knee jerk scary bad words:

DNC
anti-union
lobbying
corporate Democrats
corporations, oil and gas, credit card, Wall Street
Obama
special interests
stop the progressive agenda
status quo
wealthiest of Americans
corporate campaign contributions
Big Money
Democrats are corrupt and very bad going through revolving door

All the good words:

working class
progressives
powered by the people
movement
transform
solidarity
Republicans don't exist
working class
SEND THREE GRASSROOTS DOLLARS

[DemocracyWins]

11. Any form of capitalism is bad to these people

Also didn’t Nina Turner their darling in the DSA circles take a lobbyist job.

[Budi]

18. She also has 4 Big Money Outside PACS & a CORPORATE FUNDED PR GROUP

Amare Public Affairs.

She launched her firm Amare Public Affairs with support from partners at Mercury Public Affairs.

MERCURY PUBLIC AFFAIRS:
https://www.mercuryllc.com/about/

Check out the worldwide BIG CORPORATE clients Mercury promotes.

Pfizer, Microsoft, Qatar, and more Global Corporations.
Must have taken A LOT of $3 donations to afford Mercury!!
Think we all can guess why she hired a big Corporate PR firm & a Biased Polling Company to move her own personal message in OH-11.


So much for 'the little people'
👎

[George II]

21. She didn't merely "take" a lobbying job, she created her own lobbying firm.

[betsuni]

23. Started her own lobbyist firm, has several PACs and was one of those dreaded superdelegates.

BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT. Money in politics is bad status quo for Democrats, okay for everybody else. Same for establishment.

[CentralMass]

12. A Google search on what Venable LLP is known for.

People also ask
What is Venable LLP known for?
Venable LLP particularly well known for defending pharmaceutical, vaccine and medical device manufacturers. In addition to handling MDLs and mass torts, the practice group advises on a variety of medical, scientific and regulatory issues that arise from life sciences product liability litigation.
www.legal500.com › firms › 55373...
Venable LLP > Los Angeles > United States | The Legal 500 law

[LetMyPeopleVote]

14. I got the same email

Tom Perez is a former big law partner. I hate to break it to the world but the big law firms tend to represent clients who can pay $1600 per hour billing rates

[Budi]

20. Didn't Tad DeVine return to his Big DC Law Firm after managing Sander's campaign?

Who does his Law Firm Represent?

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. If the details are accurate, It's a legitimate criticism, IMO. Nt

[George II]

19. Two things:

1. Are the details accurate, at least to the extent that they're complaining about them?
2. Tom Perez has every right to continue his career and life after being DNC chairman.

Remember, the organization that is bashing him was founded by Cenk Uygur who was:

1. Forced to resign because
2. Funded by Buddy Roehmer, a right wing republican, who also sat on the Board of "The Young Turks"
3. TYT is funded by and is broadcast on Russia Today

So, "purity for thee, but not for me?"

[Budi]

22. "purity for thee, but not for me". Seems to be a repeated pattern, righr?

Even Paul Manafort's global electioneering partner, Tad DeVine returned to work at his powerful DC Law Firm after 2016 Sanders campaign.

But..but..that's totally different, right? 🙄

[Fiendish Thingy]

24. Regardless of the messenger, I agree with the basic premise of the message

Dems, whether current elected officials, former DNC chairs, or aspiring future office holders, should not work as lawyers or lobbyists for anti-worker, anti-union, profits-before-people (or the environment) corporations. Period.

That’s not “purity for thee, but not for me”, that’s called staying true to what I hope everyone could agree should be the values of the Democratic Party.

Of course, Perez has every right to work wherever he wants; and I have the right to lose all respect for him and declare that he should never again hold a position of power in the Democratic Party.

The flip side of the “purity” argument is the “loyalty to party membership over loyalty to party values” point of view.

[CentralMass]

25. Well said.

[Budi]

29. Party Values? What Party. Democratic Party? So a group of millionare..

So a group of Silicon Valley big tech millionares formed a political group to run a media campaign to admonish, one by one, every Democrat & their Party, labeling in one broadbrush, them all as coded negatives such as, Corporate, Wall Street, Establishment, etc, on an endless social media blitz for 5 years running, all the while forming & funding their own big $$ PACS & Corporate global backed PR firms.

Their message is the other Big Lie.
Their corporate backed funding & big media messaging is their game, & they were incubated by a couple of Silicon Valley Corporate millionares.

Money & Media
Incubated & coordinated for one purpose.
Self interest over the very people they target.

IT'S ABOUT MONEY & POWER FOR SELF, THRU USE OF MEDIA MESSAGING.
THAT'S IT.

Silicon Vally needs to be pulled apart by its roots.
Start with Pete Thiel & STRIPE Cr Crd processing & who wrote the code before heading to London for a meet-up with Cambridge Analytica.

Josh Kushner, Yuri Milner, Saikat Chakrabarti, Pete Thiel, Cenk Uygur & the 5 yr long anti-Democratic messaging.

These are the people who created it & preserving American Democracy isn't their end game.

[Fiendish Thingy]

32. Your focus is on the messenger, not the message

I don’t give two fucks about Peter Theil or TYT- I know they are power and profit driven disruptors.

The fact that they are echoing a message I agree with doesn’t dilute or diminish the message for me, considering it is a message echoed by numerous mainstream Dems, from Schiff to Klobuchar to Warren to O’Rourke.

There should not be a revolving door from government to K Street and back, and Dems with a conscience shouldn’t be working for companies that do evil things against American workers and families.

Don’t you agree?

[Budi]

41. No. My focus is on the messaging by the messengers I described.

The messengers of Silicon Valley Big Tech Millionares wrote the message.

They write all of the "send money", $3, $27 emails" with the same lengthy anti-Democratic Party messaging.

Same source, same mass messaging.

The anti-Democratic messengers of Silicon Valley Big Tech Millionares wrote the message.

Money & Media is what they do. For a big fee. Cha ching $$$$$

[Fiendish Thingy]

44. So, disregarding the messengers, you agree with the message, which is:

Democrats should stay true to the values of the Democratic Party, and there should not be a revolution living door between government and K street. Dems should not work for, or lobby for companies that are anti-worker, anti-environment, anti-voting rights, anti-choice, anti-transparency, etc.

Do you agree or disagree?

[George II]

58. The messenger created the message.

[DFW]

34. Agreed that active anti-worker, anti-union work negates credibility with us

But the same goes for an alliance with people from Russia Today and their flagship financier, The Russian Federation (Наши дорогие друзья ). They are no more our friends than those who would take money for, e.g., defending Monsanto for poisoning people with Roundup.

Why not just steal the phrase "Truth, Justice, and the American Way," don your cape, and be done with all pretense?

[Fiendish Thingy]

37. As long as the message isn't lost among the fervent attacks on the messengers

The message being criticized in this thread is one promoted by many mainstream Dems who have nothing to do with TYT or RT.

[DFW]

38. If TYT or RT is the origin, it doesn't matter how many times it was rerouted

The message and the source don't change just because "many people are saying" it elsewhere.

[Fiendish Thingy]

42. So, if TYT says "Joe Biden is President", we shouldn't believe them?

What about if TYT says “the filibuster must die”, do you automatically disagree because they said it?

The cultists belong to the other side of the aisle...

[Budi]

52. Whoosh ... apologies for not being clear enough.

🙄

[DFW]

55. Pretty simple

If they say the sky is blue, and it obviously is, I believe it. If they say the sky is green, and it obviously isn't, I don't. A certain amount of confidence in one's own ability to distinguish obvious fact from propaganda is not a bad thing. Even Fox Noise is surely known for reporting baseball scores accurately on more than a sporadic basis.

[George II]

57. That is a rather strange way of twisting it. So if trump says water is wet....

....we should believe the election was rigged (unless, of course, you don't agree that water is wet)?

[Fiendish Thingy]

60. Of course not; the point is you don't deny water is wet just because of the source of the statement.

[DFW]

27. And only their version of purity, bien entendu.

It was enough for me to see the word "corporate" in two thirds of the paragraphs. Anti-Democrats tend to use that word like the extremist right uses "liberal:" a code dirty word to rile up their supporters. Want to get the radical right frothing at the mouth? Just tell them where they can attack some "liberal." It would appear that some people think they can elicit the same reaction from us using the word "corporate." At this point, I hope to have built up an immunity to arguments that depend heavily on either word.

[mcar]

36. Good reminder about Uygur

The Young Turks carried out the Armenian genocide, didn't they?

[Budi]

43. Yes they did. It took Cenk until recently to finally recognize that heinous action

And then there's the RW Buddy Roehmer who gave Cenk the funding to start TYT. BUT..in return, Roehmer would be given a seat on the TYT Board.

Funny how it all connects to Anti-Democratic mass media messaging when ya just have a look at the background.
Multi Millionare, Cenk was a Republican, then an Indy before putting that big generous D after his name in..wait for it...2016!!

Amazing how many just happened to switch to the Democratic Party at the same time! Crazy huh!
And they haven't stopped damning every tenat, Democratic policy maker & long honored progress for the American people through all the years of fighting against big money Conservative policy, of our true People's Party, the Democratic Party.

It's almost as though they had an agenda, right?

[George II]

54. As you mentioned, he only recently recognized that the Armenian genocide occurred....

What's disappointing in that when the House conducted a roll call vote on a resolution stating:

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that it is the policy of the United States to—

(1) commemorate the Armenian Genocide through official recognition and remembrance;

(2) reject efforts to enlist, engage, or otherwise associate the United States Government with denial of the Armenian Genocide or any other genocide; and

(3) encourage education and public understanding of the facts of the Armenian Genocide, including the United States role in the humanitarian relief effort, and the relevance of the Armenian Genocide to modern-day crimes against humanity.

The resolution passed 405-11, with 3 voting "present". One of his disciples refused to vote "Yea", but voted "Present".

[Budi]

56. I prefer the Democratic Party's long fought proof of progressivism.

You must walk the talk, to be truly honest.

The Democratic Party has long & consistantly shown their committment to honor the tenats of their Party.

[bottomofthehill]

26. It's only ok the other way around

If you work so Wall Street and take millions in stock options and have your money before you “ Find Socialism” it’s on. You don’t have to give all your money away to be a total dickhead, you just have to start whining about others.
If you have a high paying job, leave it to try to make a difference, then go back, that’s when you are bad.

Justice Dickheads, leave the Democratic name off.

[Budi]

30. K & R

The hypocrisy is a loud screeching bullhorn at this point.

Look where they began.
Millionare, stock invested Silicon Valley Big Tech players, playing a high stakes, high dollar game of personal wealth, with our Democracy.

[George II]

31. A senator who calls himself "socialist" has about half his net worth invested on "Wall St."

[Budi]

45. As do the Silicon Valley big money techies who started JD.

What a fabulous gig, huh!

Where do you suppose those millionare techies put their millions?

[Fiendish Thingy]

48. What funds does he hold?

Does he have a socially conscious portfolio, or does he hold shares in Exxon, Smith & Wesson, Monsanto, Coors and Amazon? I don’t know, I’m genuinely curious.

I know you have a major hate-on for that Socialist Senator, but such broad brush attacks sadly resemble the tactics used by the very messengers you attack on this thread, not to mention RW news and social media.

[Budi]

51. Do a deep dive as to where he invests his millions & let us know

The Democratic Party has been the most socially concious group of policy makers in history.

He actually doesn't have that great a sociallly conscious, nor progressive record for all his years in DC.

Google has that history.

[George II]

53. I don't know what a "socially conscious portfolio" is. About 10% of my "net worth" is invested....

...on "Wall Street", in one stock that was awarded to me as part of my compensation from a company I worked for more than 30 years ago. I'd sell it but would have to pay something like 50% income tax penalty since it's a 401k.

I never intentionally invested in anything about which I've been railing against for decades.

[Fiendish Thingy]

59. You should be able to move funds within your 401k without penalty

There are blended mutual funds with holdings in socially and environmentally conscious companies, like solar, wind, and in companies with humane and pro-labor policies and practices.

Talk to your financial advisor.

[mcar]

33. An entire fundraising email about the FORMER DNC Chair?

Lame attempt on JD's part.

[Budi]

46. The $3 is just the ruse. The anti-Democratic messaging is the reason.

The "fundraising" emails are a means of anti-Democratic mass messaging.

At $3 or $27, they don't have the FEC interfering with their messaging.

[mcar]

47. Yep

[jalan48]

39. On the bright side he's working a full time job to make the big bucks and not simply giving

"speeches" at $400,000 a pop to big Wall Street firms.

[George II]

40. Who are you talking about?

[Budi]

49. Huh? Whose giving $400,000 Wall Street speeches?

[PTWB]

61. There's nothing wrong with trying to minimize the corporate stranglehold over our country.