Does anyone know why Senator Sanders voted against this bill and the two votes....

[George II]

....on the amendments?

For the first 2 votes, 49 members of the Democratic caucus voted "Yea", 31 republicans and Sanders voted "Nay"

For the third, 49 members of the Democratic caucus voted "Yea", 27 republicans and Sanders voted "Nay",

The votes:

226 (68-32) Passed S. 1260

On Passage of the Bill: S. 1260, As Amended; A bill to establish a new Directorate for Technology and Innovation in the National Science Foundation, to establish a regional technology hub program, to require a strategy and report on economic security, science, research, innovation, manufacturing, and job creation, to establish a critical supply chain resiliency program, and for other purposes.


226 (68-32) Passed S. 1260

On Passage of the Bill: S. 1260, As Amended; A bill to establish a new Directorate for Technology and Innovation in the National Science Foundation, to establish a regional technology hub program, to require a strategy and report on economic security, science, research, innovation, manufacturing, and job creation, to establish a critical supply chain resiliency program, and for other purposes.

224 (72-28) Agreed to S. 1260

On the Motion S.Amdt. 1502: Motion to Waive All Applicable Budgetary Discipline Re: Amdt. No. 1502 As Amended ; In the nature of a substitute.

https://www.congress.gov/roll-call-votes

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. Because he's the most loyal Democrat?

His no votes and grandstanding are what Democrats should be doing to show they have power. I read that somewhere...

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Does anyone care? Nt

[Demsrule86]

3. I would be interested to know. Had a moderate Democrat voted with the GOP, you would want to know.

I am curious why he did this.

[USALiberal]

4. Of course not why would anyone care how Democrat votes in the Senate or the house! FFS!!

[RegularJam]

10. He is not a Democrat.

True story. He switched back to Independent, as usual.

I like Sanders but strongly dislike how he switches political affiliation more often than Charlie Crist.

[George II]

6. Inasmuch as the claim is that he "always" votes with Democrats, I'd like to know why he doesn't....

...so frequently.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. I'm far more concerned with Joe "you can call me Strom" Manchin's supposed 100% record

Many have claimed Manchin votes with Biden 100% of the time, yet conveniently ignore the fact that so many significant pieces of Biden’s agenda are blocked from even getting a floor vote because of Manchin’s obstruction.

[George II]

8. How many pieces of Biden's agenda has Manchin blocked from getting a floor vote? I think it's zero..

...but I may be wrong.

"Strom" Manchin?????????

[Fiendish Thingy]

9. Get back to me after June 21, when S1 comes to the floor

McConnell will filibuster, and Manchin will obstruct by voting no to change the filibuster rule.

Biden’s jobs bill would have already been signed into law if Manchin hadn’t balked at using reconciliation to pass it.

[George II]

11. Well, it's June 9 so I guess this isn't true:

Fiendish Thingy (7,017 posts)

7. I'm far more concerned with Joe "you can call me Strom" Manchin's supposed 100% record

Many have claimed Manchin votes with Biden 100% of the time, yet conveniently ignore the fact that so many significant pieces of Biden’s agenda are blocked from even getting a floor vote because of Manchin’s obstruction.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15511012

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. The infrastructure bill would have been passed by now if not for Manchin's obstruction

Schumer and Pelosi would have gone straight to reconciliation if not for Manchin.

Which day of the week does the J.C. Joe fan club meet? I’d like to know so I can make other plans.

[George II]

17. Getting back to the topic:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15511012

Fiendish Thingy (7,017 posts)

7. I'm far more concerned with Joe "you can call me Strom" Manchin's supposed 100% record

Many have claimed Manchin votes with Biden 100% of the time, yet conveniently ignore the fact that so many significant pieces of Biden’s agenda are blocked from even getting a floor vote because of Manchin’s obstruction.

How many pieces of Biden's agenda, significant or not, were blocked from even getting to a floor vote because of Manchin's obstruction? You never answered that.

[Skittles]

38. I certainly do not

nope

[LetMyPeopleVote]

5. Who cares?

I do not care why sanders voted this way

[48656c6c6f20]

12. The Independent Senator from Vermont

Does what is best for his party. Population 1.

[wellst0nev0ter]

14. It kept the $10 billion bailout to Jeff Bezos

Remember him? The billionaire who paid next to no taxes?

A controversial amendment pushed by Jeff Bezos’ space firm Blue Origin passed the Senate Wednesday night, inching closer to becoming law. Crammed inside a mammoth science and technology bill designed primarily to counter competition from China, the amendment would allow NASA to spend up to $10 billion on its embattled Moon lander program. Aside from countering China, it also marks the latest development on Bezos’ warpath to counter competition from Elon Musk’s SpaceX.

(snip)

Senators Maria Cantwell, a senior Democrat from Blue Origin’s home state of Washington, and Roger Wicker, a Republican from Mississippi, proposed the amendment that passed the Senate last night. In its original version, it would have vaguely forced NASA to pick at least one more contractor within 30 days from the bill’s enactment and use $10 billion to fund the whole program — SpaceX’s contract and the hypothetical second company’s contract — through 2026. Cantwell had been irked by NASA’s decision to pick one company and penned the language to promote commercial competition, aides say.

(snip)

The amendment doesn’t explicitly command NASA to add another Moon lander contractor to work alongside SpaceX, or even pick Blue Origin for that matter — chunks of the $10 billion could very well go to SpaceX in the future. But the 30-day deadline was seen as a de facto mandate to do so, since creating a new development program in that slim window would be unlikely, and because Blue Origin’s lander proposal came in second place behind SpaceX’s. After weeks of negotiations between NASA and Congress, the amendment’s 30-day deadline was expanded to 60 days, and the funding year stops at 2025 instead of 2026, according to the version of the bill that passed, locking in a concession intended to give NASA more flexibility to use the $10 billion according to its original plan.

That plan includes future competitions, like a development program that could give companies some $15 million to mature their lunar lander designs, or a bigger competition to provide NASA with routine transportation to the Moon. But Blue Origin doesn’t want to wait for those programs to open up. It’s leading a national team of companies it marshaled in 2019 to build a winning Moon lander proposal. That team includes Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin, two publicly traded space and defense contractors that could decide to jump ship and work on their own proposals for the follow-up awards, some in the space industry speculate.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/9/22457893/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-nasa-spacex-senate-competition-bill-nasa-moon-lander

[bluewater]

15. And the reply to this is....

*crickets*

[wellst0nev0ter]

16. I know right?

I thought I would have gotten at least SOME people defending it, like saying "Oh yeah? Well the bill isn't called 'The Jeff Bezos Slush Fund Act' you berner!"

[Autumn]

18. No one really cares why he voted no. But it is a damn good chance to get hits on Bernie in.

[George II]

20. People DO "really care about why he voted no". Remember, he was the ONLY member....

....of the Democratic caucus who voted no, and he voted in agreement with 30 or so REPUBLICANS.

[Autumn]

21. Yeah right George, he did vote no, and now you know why.

He must read my tweets asking him to do stuff.

[George II]

22. Yeah right, Autumn, now I DO know why. And he broke with 49 other members of the Democratic....

....caucus to vote no.

[Autumn]

23. Maybe he was reaching for that magical unicorn called bipartisanship. The bill passed?

[George II]

24. So voting with your opponents to try to kill a Democratic bill is "bipartisanship"? WOW!

[Autumn]

25. Did the bill pass George? Was it vital that the bill pass with 50 votes?

[George II]

26. That's not how it should work, Autumn. That's not the way it should work. But whatev'.

[Autumn]

27. I was suprised to hear that Manchin was a co sponser of the For the People Act of 2019.

You know, the one he can't vote for now.

[George II]

28. Is that the topic of discussion here, Autumn? The topic is a member of the Democratic caucus....

....voting against a bill sponsored (since you're interested in sponsors) by his caucus leader and against every single other member of the caucus.

Next?

[Autumn]

29. Since I brought it up it certainly is George. The bill I brought up was co sponsered by

someone who won't support it and it's vital that the For the People Act of 2019 be passed to protect our voting rights.

Next?

[George II]

30. Well then Autumn, maybe it would be appropriate to post an OP on the sponsorship of....

... the For the People Act of 2019.

By the way, the For the People Act of 2019 will never be passed. Of course Manchin won't support the For the People Act of 2019, it will never come up for a vote.

Once a new Congress is sworn in, all pending bills from the previous Congress are wiped out. 2019 was the first session of the 116th Congress, we're now in the first session of the 117th Congress.

[Autumn]

31. Already done George. It's still the most important bill of the 116th and the now the 117th

Congress. Point is when Mitch controlled the agenda Manchin was willing to co sponser it. Now that Dems are in control he won't even consider it.

[George II]

32. Autumn, a completely different bill in a completely different Congress, two years ago.

[Autumn]

36. A completely different bill George? I don't think so

H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2019
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1/text

H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2021
117th Congress (2021-2022)https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1


H.R. 1
United States federal legislation
The For the People Act is a bill in the United States Congress intended to expand voting rights, change campaign finance laws to reduce the influence of money in politics, limit partisan gerrymandering, and create new ethics rules for federal officeholders.
Originally published: January 3, 2019
Introduced in: 117th United States Congress
Introduced on: January 4, 2021
Number of co-sponsors: 222
Sources include: US Government Publishing Office, Congre

[George II]

37. Same bill Autumn? I don't think so.

I won't get into the nitty gritty details of the bills, Autumn, but here are the statistics of the two bills (Microsoft Word comes in very handy sometimes):

2019 bill:

117730 words, 643995 characters, 4500 paragraphs, 11050 lines

2021 bill:

133487 words, 724181 characters, 4964 paragraphs, 12350 lines

Two significantly different bills, Autumn.

Have a great night, Autumn. As they used to say on Hill Street Blues, "be careful out there"!!

[George II]

33. I think it's more like ........ *cicadas*

[George II]

19. He voted against the entire bill and all other amendments because of his dispute with Jeff Bezos?

There are a lot of very important issues covered by that "mammoth science and technology bill designed primarily to counter competition from China" (from your quote), and he voted against it because of his personal issues with Jeff Bezos.

Does he not care about competition from China or all the other aspects of the "mammoth" bill?

Funny, none of the other 49 Senators in the Democratic caucus have that concern. Wonder why?

This isn't the way to legislate or operate within our Federal government.

[wellst0nev0ter]

34. Think Bernie was concerned about the laughable giveaways to rich companies

with little strings attached and no provisions instructing the lucky enterprises to NOT use funds to buy back stock or give themselves executive bonuses.

But you're right, all the other Democratic senators voted for the Stop Communist China Bill, and who among us does NOT want to put Commie China in its place?

[George II]

35. Interesting perspective on a "massive bill" sponsored by OUR Democratic Majority Leader, but...

...whatever.

By the way, "commie" is passé in 2021. Has been since the late 1980s.

[wellst0nev0ter]

39. Yeah, the bill is only worth $100 billion

What would that buy, a banana?

And you know the bill attracted goops because it was wrapped up in naked China bashing. Maybe if we dressed up HR1 as an anti-China bill, we won't need to dump the filibuster.

Welp, at least you admit this bill is a giveaway to Bezos and share buybacks, so progress!

[George II]

40. What words did I use to "admit this bill is a giveaway to Bezos...etc."? You do this all the time...

....claim that someone said something he/she never even came close.

So when did I "admit" that, eh?

BTW, what's this talk about "goops" and "China". Don't we have enough Asian bashing already?

[betsuni]

42. LOL

[Crunchy Frog]

41. It was just so he could create a false equivalence between himself and Joe Manchin.