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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA few days ago, this board was inundated with people demanding Garland and DOJ DO something!!!
But now that they're DOING something, the board is filled with shrugs and lots of "So what? It's not going to make any difference" and "I'll believe it when I see it" posts.
What's up with that?
madaboutharry
(40,238 posts)Garland was obviously working hard in preparing to do the right thing but he failed to personally inform folks on DU.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)They complained that he should be telling them what he was doing. And now he's telling them what he's doing and they aren't interested.
ShazamIam
(2,577 posts)acts like the Republicans refusing to name members to committees, the pandemic, and we can only guess at the shambles left in every branch of government. Especially of course, the DOJ, IRS, Defense, Intelligence, and, and, and.
But based on articles and comments, I felt like we had major visiting from the people working hard to divide the Democratic.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Not a coincidence.
dem4decades
(11,312 posts)Apple information. Today. after the story comes out they seek an IG investigation? They didn't know about it before?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)dem4decades
(11,312 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,180 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)After Fitzmas, the Mueller Report Barr Edition, the revisionist report of the church photo-op, and the Senate 1/6 report that doesn't mention "insurrection", etc etc, yeah. Put me in the "believe it when I see it" crowd.
Even when Democrats make the effort, republiqon cheating seems to thwart it every time. I'll be glad to give Garland the chance to prosecute and jail them. And applaud his stance on voting.
But we're running out of time to get this done. Criminal scum are walking free. Out on bail would be bad enough, but we don't even have that.
I sincerely hope that will not, once again, be the case. But we've been burned by anticipointment way too many times to jump up waving pompoms ever again.
EYESORE 9001
(26,020 posts)How dare they waste their talent trolling internet sites instead of stepping up to the plate and taking charge?
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Coolest.
Sewa
(1,265 posts)and the DOJ do something, they are doing something. Keeping their feet to the fire works. Those that turned up the heat should be patting themselves on the back. 👏
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)because people started fussing at him earlier this week?
Wow.
Who couldnt have came up with that plan in an hour? 🤙
OK. Good to know for future reference.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)And please stop criticizing other Dems.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)on a couple of levels ...
ecstatic
(32,760 posts)So my opinion of him actually went down when the news story came out. I'm just exhausted and will probably take a break from news.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Turbineguy
(37,386 posts)we don't always get it right the first time every time....
gab13by13
(21,470 posts)As I was one of the ones asking for DOJ to do something about Arizona I am still not satisfied. What is DOJ doing about a private Qanon company having access to sealed ballots, voting systems, and other election materials that are no longer in the custody of election officials?
I also said DOJ should hurry and act because it is harder to negate a state law that is already passed. Yeah DOJ will file law suits against corrupt election laws which will take how many years to get through the courts? DOJ needed to emphasize that it will question state legislators under oath if they lied about the reasons and data for their new election laws. State legislators need to understand that they can be indicted for passing these corrupt election laws.
IMO DOJ needs to do more. The Senate doing an investigation is a joke since nothing will get out of committee. Jerry Nadler in the House stated he didn't want to hold hearings without giving DOJ a chance to clean house first. So we are at a standstill for bringing Sessions, Barr before a committee.
Seeing as Sessions recused himself from anything Russia, anyone want to bet me that Rod Rosenstein had a hand in this?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But you're also demanding DOJ take actions it has no power to take.
For example, DOJ can't prosecute state legislators for passing "corrupt election laws" or "question state legislators under oath if they lied about the reasons and data for their new election laws." We might not like what they've done, but passing legislation, regardless how odious, is not a federal crime.
Elessar Zappa
(14,108 posts)to indict legislators due to corrupt election laws.
Justice matters.
(6,950 posts)between seeing 'something' is DONE and seeing that 'something' actually working to right the wrongs (illegal stuff), there's a big diff.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)betsuni
(25,730 posts)Kaleva
(36,372 posts)when one dire predication or predicament doesn't pan out or is addressed, they quickly forget it and create another.
MineralMan
(146,341 posts)to succeed. When it does, however, those same people find something else to complain about that detracts from the mission.
Why do they do that? I do not know, and there may be several different answers.
we can do it
(12,208 posts)mcar
(42,426 posts)I've been here so long I remember the same kind of complaints during the Obama Administration. "Why won't he use the bully pulpit" about their pet issue, over and over.
Then, Pres. Obama would give an amazing speech on that very same issue. The response here?
"Talk is cheap."
Bettie
(16,139 posts)voter suppression and voting rights as a whole.
I hope it makes a difference.
Elessar Zappa
(14,108 posts)Its like a drug for them.
Goodheart
(5,349 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But I suspect that many people who say that won't be happy at all with indictments. When those come down, they'll predict they'll never see any convictions ...
Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)side used against President Obama
I still fume over that..
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And when he did what they wanted, they either took credit for it or shrugged and claimed it still wasn't enough and then went right back to castigating him.
bigtree
(86,013 posts)...and are understandably cynical about government's ability to confront itself.
They need time, too.
There's really no substitute for patiently informing folks about what Garland is actually doing, and public opinion will include more than what people feel about government when that information proliferates.
Lots of work to do.