Read a new definition for CRT I'm gonna start using.

[Nevilledog]

Confederate Race Theory.

That's what they really want taught.

[brewens]

1. Who's the mastermind that decided to call it Critical Race Theory anyway? They couldn't

have called it True African American History or something like that? They picked the perfect name for a befuddle Tucker Carlson to tell his viewers how confusing it all is to them.

[Nevilledog]

4. It's been around for a long time

https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory

[StarfishSaver]

7. This is not a new thing

This isn't a political slogan that needs to generate popular support.

Please don't fall into the trap set by racist right wingers who are trying to weaponize whatever they can find to undermine people of color - and use other unwitting, well-meaning people to help them do it.

[uponit7771]

15. The racists don't like the concept no matter what it's called

[Solly Mack]

25. There's the truth.

They don't want the 1619 Project. They don't want Critical Race Theory. They don't want facts about American history.

They don't want any history that doesn't start with and end with - some white man did something special.

[maxsolomon]

24. It comes out of Critical Legal Theory.

just read the Wiki.

[intheflow]

26. CRT is not about Black US history.

While it examines the historical record, it's really about recognizing the oppressive patterns in the social systems that have been created by white people. This makes it about sociology, legal precedents, and raising awareness of how BIPOC people have been written out of the historical record because of discrimination. It seeks strategies for understanding and overcoming repressive social systems. If you think CRT is about teaching Black history, you've definitely been listening to too many conservatives' uninformed opinions.

[Silent3]

2. My first thought was...

...Cathode Ray Tube when I saw CRT. Not that this dates me or anything like that.

[Nevilledog]

3. Ha!

[moonscape]

5. Same! n/t

[Buckeye_Democrat]

13. That was my initial thought too, especially after working...

... as a QA supervisor for one of the biggest CRT manufacturers in the past. The building was the largest in all of Ohio at the time.

As the various LED and plasma screen technologies were being released to the market. my thought was. "Well, this place is toast."

Their idea of trying to compete was manufacturing "flat screen" CRT's, which required very thick glass to prevent them from so easily imploding. When those CRT's fell off the hangers onto the floor, they sounded like big bombs exploding and could be heard from far away. Which would inevitably result in people like me verifying that a coworker wasn't impacted by numerous glass shards.

That place reminded me of some kind of hellish dystopian future anyway, with many employees buried in the jam-packed machinery like they were androids. Lol.

[ShazamIam]

6. That works, and I want the media go back to using 1619 Project. Republicans created that

talking point name to keep the topic on race, not slavery, that institution they hope to revive.

[Solly Mack]

8. Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project are two different endeavors.

Not to be confused one with the other. Nor are they interchangeable. You can't call CRT the 1619 Project because, simply, it isn't. Just as the 1619 Project isn't CRT.

The 1619 Project is a journalism project which was published on the 400th Anniversary (2019) of the first African slaves to arrive in Virginia. It reframes American history around slavery and its aftermath.

Critical Race Theory is an academic movement and dates back to the mid-70's. Using social, cultural, and legal issues and how racism has impacted them all.

The Press can't go back to using the 1619 Project as another name for Critical Race Theory because they aren't the same.

Both do deal with structural racism, however. Both do have overlap on the subject of race, racism, and the history of America.

But that doesn't make them one and the same.

The right-wing attacks CRT out of ignorance and malice in hopes their equally ignorant and malicious audience will listen to them instead of picking up a book and informing themselves of the facts.

[OnDoutside]

9. It's a year on from Defund the Police. It's always messaging never

about substance.

[Solly Mack]

10. I find substance in CRT but then I've actually read the books on it instead of

relying on others.

It's not the fault of the originators of CRT that people are lazy and stupid. It's not their fault that the right-wing has - once again/as usual - chosen to stoke fear in white people by pretending CRT is some newfangled attempt to erase white people.

Attacking CRT because the right wing does it is dancing to the tune of the right wing.

Any claim that CRT has no substance is codswallop.

Blaming an idea that requires people to inform themselves of - for people choosing not to inform themselves - is trifling bullshit. It's been around since the 70's. Lots of time for people to have opened a book.

It's the people who live by soundbites that are the problem - not the ideas.

Raise the level of understanding. Don't lower the standards of knowledge.

Don't play to ignorance as the right-wing does. Expect more from people. Demand more from them.

People can be conditioned to have a short attention span. They can be taught otherwise.

[OnDoutside]

11. They don't care. They pick something on the other side, distort it and

use it in their messaging. Dems continually fight the battle on their terms and I don't see a lot of evidence where that's changing.

[Solly Mack]

12. Yeah. That is disheartening.

Sickening, really.

[OnDoutside]

14. Completely, there's no reasoning on any intellectual level with them.

They do however, clearly respond to emotions, and I feel that is where Democrats need to hone their messaging for those Republican voters who are reachable. ie take RW messaging techniques and target them with short emotive facts.

[ShazamIam]

16. Sorry, I do disagree, Critical Race Theory is what the racist are calling the 1619 Project.

[Elessar Zappa]

17. They're wrong then.

It’s not the same thing.

[JHB]

20. When has being wrong ever stopped them?

[Solly Mack]

18. So? That doesn't make them the same thing. The fact is: Not the same thing.

You can disagree with that fact but you're wrong. Regardless of what racists are doing - a standard I don't base my actions on.

[ShazamIam]

19. Ok, to me that means you are allowing conservatives to control the dialog, Critical Race Theory is

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what they call the 1619 Project. Of course you can believe what you choose. Here is Charles Pierce of Esquire with his always sharp opinion about it.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a36697120/critical-race-theory-conservatives-school-boards/

In fact, the 1619 Project, which is really what these people are talking about when they talk about critical race theory, is nothing if not an attempt to make American history more “thorough.”

*edit: yu/you

[Solly Mack]

21. No. Not the same is the fact. Yes, Pierce is correct

- ignorant racists are using CRT as the label for the 1619 Project. That's what he is saying - He isn't saying they are the same. I read his article when it came out. Pointing out that stupid people are getting it wrong doesn't mean the two things they are confusing are the same thing.

Instead of pretending they are the same thing, they each should be called by their own names. Facts do matter.

Just because the ignorant are getting it wrong doesn't mean we treat their ignorance as valid.

It's not a matter of belief - it's a known fact - Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project are two distinctive endeavors created years apart.

[ShazamIam]

22. Ok, kmaybe I see what you mean, Critical Race Theory label is being used to attack 1619 Proj. nt

[Solly Mack]

23. People confuse the two is what I'm saying.

I think both should be used in school. In conjunction one with the other in dealing with social, cultural, and legal issues in America. Not just history of America - but in regard to social, cultural, legal, and governmental functions of America.

Republicans didn't invent the term Critical Race Theory, as some have suggested. I see that incorrect talking point from time to time. It's not racist either nor does it teach people to hate white people. Two more right-wing talking points I've seen.

CRT has been around for 46 years.

Anyone that has ever taken a black history studies course at college or university during that time has come across CRT.

And you didn't have to take black history studies to come across it - all anyone had to do was be interested in how racism impacts our country. That journey alone would have included CRT.