With nearly all the 11th Congressional District candidates in one room Wednesday, Nina Turner

[Autumn]

showed why she’s the front-runner: analysis


CLEVELAND, Ohio – The 11th Congressional District special election has a surplus of candidates.

The 11th Congressional District special election has a surplus of candidates. Emphasis on the word “surplus” – as in there are 13 candidates in this race, only around half of whom have an overt understanding of policy. Even fewer of those have any shot whatsoever at winning. That was abundantly clear during the cleveland.com/The Plain Dealer editorial board endorsement meeting Wednesday. Twelve of the candidates were all in one room taking questions from the Editorial Board and it showed a clear pattern of what the talent in this race is actually like.

Through numerous forums and in-depth interviews, it’s become increasingly clear that only a handful of the 13 who will be in the Aug. 3 ballot have any real policy chops. Tariq Shabazz, the 27-year-old Navy veteran and activist is definitely a wonk and conceivably has a political future. Former City Councilman Jeff Johnson also has shown a high level of understanding and detail when discussing issues like criminal justice reform and economics. Their problem, however, is they haven’t been able to crystallize that policy knowledge into a message that reverberates.

Cuyahoga County Councilwoman Shontel Brown, whom many thought would be in a dogfight with Turner just seven months ago, has slipped tremendously. She figured to have all the establishment help she could ask for when she first announced, but the necessary gusto hasn’t seemed to coalesce.
It was evident during the editorial board interview, with many of her answers sounding repetitious. Talking points are important to a campaign, but being unable or unwilling to deviate from those talking points simply isn’t going to win over voters.

The fact of the matter is, based on interviews, public appearances, fundraising, endorsements and most other metrics, former state Sen. Nina Turner looks like she’s running away in the race. It certainly looked that way at the Editorial Board interview (Note: I am not a member of the Editorial Board, nor do I know who they will endorse).

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/06/with-nearly-all-the-11th-congressional-district-candidates-in-one-room-wednesday-nina-turner-showed-why-shes-the-front-runner-analysis.html

[murielm99]

1. Shontel Brown has some important endorsements

and looks like the best candidate.

WTF is this "establishment help?" How ludicrous.

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. "WTF is this "establishment help?" "

Probably things like endorsements, donations, campaign appearances etc from people and politicians considered to be "establishment".

That would be my guess.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. Referring to a trans woman as "a man living his life as a woman" is disqualifying

[druidity33]

11. Shontel Brown said that? yikes... nt.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

13. Yep. I won't post it here. It's that bad.

[Budi]

15. Better provide a link to Brown's exact quote or I'm calling this bullshit

Let's see it.
All of it.

[progressoid]

17. LMGTFY...

Link to tweet

[Budi]

19. Check out this one!

Link to tweet

Shits hittin' the fan in OH-11

Aren't bitter to the end elections just crazy!!

[progressoid]

22. OK?

And what exactly does that have to do with the quote you requested from Brown?

[Budi]

23. Nothing. It just shows the bitter battle as election day nears.

[Autumn]

32. An epic moving of the goal posts would be my guess.

[progressoid]

41. ...

[ChubbyStar]

47. I am using that GIF

I love it. Thanks!

[ColinC]

27. ....

[Voltaire2]

35. So you saw it, all of it

and now?

[Autumn]

16. And it certainly isn't a "life style choice"

[Hassin Bin Sober]

21. Yeah, welcome to 1988.

[ChubbyStar]

2. It appears to be an interesting race

Thanks for the update Autumn.

[RegularJam]

3. One congressional district.

Multiple qualified and competent democrats in the race.

We’ve got a lot of good people on our team.

[aocommunalpunch]

5. K.R.

Cheers, Autumn.

[PortTack]

6. Turner would be nothing but trouble for a dem congress!

Anyone forget she said voting for Joe Biden was like eating half a shit sandwich. She’s terrible

There’s still a lot of undecideds listed in the polls I’ve seen, so hopefully this will play out well for Shontel Brown

[Budi]

8. Here's the vote breakdown from 2016 Pres primary for that District

Shontel will win this.

"To give everyone an idea of what this district looks like politically, the 2016 presidential primary results were:"

Clinton - 67.7% (91,363 votes)
Sanders - 32% (43,246 votes)

Cuyahoga portion accounted for 87.6% of votes. Summit portion 12.4%.

From cleveland. com twitter

[PortTack]

12. Thx for the breakdown. Hope those that can will consider giving to Shontel's campaign

She will make a great congress woman

[Voltaire2]

36. She would be as much trouble as those

other progressive women of color representatives that seem to just trigger something with the right wing of the party

[Scrivener7]

7. .

[hlthe2b]

10. Honestly I don't deny she is bright. But are we really supporting someone who has nothing good

to say about OUR President, Joe Biden?

How can anyone forget her comment when discussing the option of voting for Joe Biden or President Trump:

“It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of s**t in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing,’" she said. "It’s still s**t.”

Not to mention her litany of ugly comments about HRC...

I can find no reason to increase the divisiveness among our own in the House. IMHO, that's exactly what Nina Turner presents.

Go, Shontel Brown.

[PortTack]

14. +1000 X over!!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

33. She didn't say that about what he is doing as President.

That was about candidate Biden.

[hlthe2b]

37. So, you are fine with a vote for Biden being compared to "shit" I hope all on this thread see this

Sorry, (NOT SORRY) but you don't belong here if you believe that.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

38. So Harris attacking Biden's stance on busing is unforgivable?

And, um, luckily, you aren't the decider of who belongs here. Happily voted for Biden in the election. Didn't want him in the primary. Both of those things are fine here.

[hlthe2b]

39. You are disparaging our Democratic President and then try to change subject to unrelated issue.

That is damning. SHAME ON YOU. But, I'm glad you've shown your true self for all to see.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

40. Where have I disparaged Biden?

I pointed out that what Turner said was not, as you claim, about PRESIDENT Biden but about the candidate. You remember, the same candidate that Biden's now Vice President also attacked for things she didn't like.

Both were about Candidate Biden. I think the related-ness of those two things is pretty clear.

And this isn't Game of Thrones, so you shouting "SHAME" at me does not get the result you might think it does.

[ChubbyStar]

42. I don't know much about Game of Thrones

But your last sentence cracked me up!

[progressoid]

18. I've only seen Brown speak a few times

But seems like she needs some polish.

Oh, and to face the fact that it's the 21st century re: LBTQ+

[Budi]

20. Umm. "Joe Biden's a bowl a shit" ain't exactly all polish & shine itself

Cripe nina.

[ColinC]

28. Calling a trans woman a man living their life as a woman

Is far, far worse. This person needs to step down immediately.

[Budi]

29. Far worse than referring to President Biden as "the same bowl of shit as trump"?

She needs to explain that before jumping on someone else's comment

Her mouth is filthy.
She don't get to wear that purity cloak with a mouth like that.

[ColinC]

30. One is expressing disapproval for a political candidate

The other is deligitimizing the struggles that millions of trans people are going through, and bringing to light her horrifying transphobia.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

34. She didn't call President Biden that. She called Candidate Biden that.

[ChubbyStar]

45. Nina was wearing a purity cloak? Where?

Will you please link to that? Thanks.

[ChubbyStar]

25. Valid points

Thanks!

[BradAllison]

24. The best candidate in this kind of race is probably neither of the frontrunners.

That's usually how politics goes.

[DFW]

26. I'm certain that Kevin McCarthy is thinking:

"If there's no way we win this district, PLEASE let it be Turner. Why should the Republicans be the only ones to suffer embarrassments like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Loren Boebert?"

[ChubbyStar]

44. I'm certain that I don't give a shit what Kevin thinks about anything n/t

[Autumn]

46. I'm positive that embarement is the last thing that crosses his fucking mind when he

thinks of Nina Turner. Equating an intellegent black woman with Bang Bang and Empty G.

[Tommy Carcetti]

43. Pass.

Although Nina Turner would fill the Tulsi Gabbard role quite nicely.