Maybe the Catholic bishops should withhold communion from politicians who support the death penalty

[DemocratSinceBirth]

In 2018, Pope Francis revised the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church, a doctrinal manual used for teaching Catholic children and converts worldwide, to describe the death penalty as “an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person” that is “inadmissible” in all cases

[Diamond_Dog]

1. BOOM!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I believe in a culture of life from womb to the tomb.

I believe God grants life and only God can take it away. I also believe we live in a pluralistic society where the individual is sovereign and has the right to live by his or her moral code but for me the default position is always life.

[localroger]

9. What about suicide in the face of a future that contains no possibilities...

...other than suffering and pain? Life is not always the default position. Usually, yes, but not always. God may have given me life but if it is a gift then it is also something I should be free to discard. If I can't, it wasn't a gift, it was an obligation.

[hunter]

20. I figure it's all about the stories told after I'm gone.

I'd never want to find myself in some heaven where my stories are boring.

That would be hell.

God she loves most the people with stories.

Yep, you suffered. You died. Those who never suffered have trouble knowing me.

How'd you get that wicked knife scar on your arm?

I light up.

My personal curse is Catholicism.

Oh, Jesus Christ, do I have stories...

My curse is I'll probably die as some kind of Catholic as well.

But not today.

I do not want to be a saint.

I've known so many good dogs.

I'm among the bad.

Thankfully all good dogs go to heaven.

[localroger]

25. One way of looking at it is that the Universe itself is a story

I've told stories, some I made up and some that I'd call "real." But in the end, our lives become stories. It is the story, not dust, that we leave behind when we die. And of course most of our stories are forgotten. But once in awhile they aren't, and that is history.

[fierywoman]

2. And they could also withhold communion from all Catholics who have divorced.

[Pantagruel]

3. IIRC they tried that,

lost so many parishioners and they couldn't make up the revenue from bingo.

[Crunchy Frog]

7. Or all Catholics who use birth control.

[blueinredohio]

12. Amen!

[wnylib]

17. You beat me to it.

That was my first thought about the political circus that the bishops are staging about Biden's position on abortion.

They also might consider denying communion to the priests who repeatedly molest and rape children and the clergy superiors who cover up for them.

Physicians heal thyselves. Remove the beam from your own eyes before trying to remove motes from the eyes of others.

[keithbvadu2]

22. Yes. It is a local, political issue.

Yes. It is a local, political issue.

If it was an issue of faith, the Pope would make a decision.

[fierywoman]

26. Hasn't Biden clearly said that for him it's not something he'd care to personally be

involved with, but that the law and a woman's choice deserves to be respected?

[wnylib]

27. The bishops are apparently not accepting

any position from Biden as valid other than outright opposition to abortion. It's a political move by them to try to force him to take a stand against it. In doing so, they are aligning themselves with hard right politics.

[Dave in VA]

5. This 1,000%

I'm so tired of the "cafeteria religious" picking which of these beliefs apply to the politicians they like and which apply to those they dislike. Just demonstrates their hypocrisy.

[grumpyduck]

6. I think the bishops are about

two hundred years behind the times. The Inquisition ended in 1834.

[Deuxcents]

8. Hear, hear!

How many death row inmates have been proven innocent? How many have died being innocent? These religious “leaders” need to stay out of politics n peoples’ personal health decisions. Feed n take care of their flock.. there’s plenty to do.

[localroger]

10. The Vatican has already told them to cut the shit

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/world/europe/biden-vatican-communion-abortion.html

Cafeteria Catholicism apparently works both ways.

[ShazzieB]

14. That article tells us what their real motivation is!

"Opponents of the vote suspect a more naked political motivation, aimed at weakening the president, and a pope many of them disagree with, with a drawn-out debate over a document that is sure to be amplified in the conservative Catholic media and on right-wing cable news programs."

Later there's this: "It is unlikely the conservatives would be able to ultimately ratify such a document, which would require unanimous support from all the country’s bishops, or two-thirds support and the Vatican’s approval. But the debate promises to keep the issue alive and present a nagging headache for President Biden and other Catholic politicians who support abortion rights."

They know it probably won't get passed. They just want to make trouble for Biden and other Catholic politicians who are Democrats. Jerks.

[lonely bird]

13. Um, maybe they can withhold communion from their pedophile brethren.

Nah, that ain’t gonna happen.

[Nululu]

15. Because the millions who quit the church over the pedo scandal aren't enough?

[Maru Kitteh]

16. Add politicians who advocate against vaccination, politicians

who fellate the gun industry, politicians who oppose funding prenatal and child care but cut the ribbons at new private for-profit prisons.

[SCantiGOP]

18. Thanks for the OP

I can’t remember how many times I have argued with pro-death penalty Christians that the Commandment is not, “Thou shalt not kill, except if the State does it with your endorsement.”

[keithbvadu2]

23. Different Bibles, different commandment.

Different Bibles, different commandment.

Thou shalt not kill.

Thou shalt not murder.

[SCantiGOP]

30. Interesting

I’ve never heard it as “murder.” Do you know what bible has that language?

[keithbvadu2]

31. KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19&version=KJV

Look at Exodus 20 in the various bibles

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus+20&version=KJV

[SCantiGOP]

32. Thanks

I’m a 40 year recovering Catholic. We weren’t allowed to read the Bible; the Pope read it and told us what was in it.

[keithbvadu2]

33. I updated for Exodus 20

[Greybnk48]

19. ND withhold communion for anyone who supports the NRA,

and their pro-death agenda.

[Warpy]

21. Catholic Bishops need to reaquzint themselves with that book they claim to love so much

because one important lesson was to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to god that which is god's.

IOW, their dogma does not belong in civil law, especially in a country where they are not the state religion and will never be.

Those Bishops are doing just what Kennedy's opponents in 1960 said they would do, force government to adhere to their religious proclivities. If they want to disqualify Catholics from public office in the future, they can keep it up.

Dumbasses.

[Drum]

24. There it is right there

[Stinky The Clown]

28. Bitch slap them and tell them to stay in their own lane. Maybe stop some pedo priests

Fuck 'em

[HAB911]

29. Now that is funny