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ck4829

(35,077 posts)
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:32 AM Jun 2021

Is this like "Banal Race Theory", "Safe Race Theory", "Don't-Question-It Race Theory" or something?

“Black people’s nerve endings are less sensitive than white people’s.” “Black people’s skin is thicker than white people’s.” “Black people’s blood coagulates more quickly than white people’s.”

These disturbing beliefs are not long-forgotten 19th-century relics. They are notions harbored by far too many medical students and residents as recently as 2016. In fact, half of trainees surveyed held one or more such false beliefs, according to a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academies of Science. I find it shocking that 40% of first- and second-year medical students endorsed the belief that “black people’s skin is thicker than white people’s.”

What’s more, false ideas about black peoples’ experience of pain can lead to worrisome treatment disparities. In the 2016 study, for example, trainees who believed that black people are not as sensitive to pain as white people were less likely to treat black people’s pain appropriately.

Other findings are equally worrisome. In a 2012 study, my colleagues and I found a correlation between pediatricians’ implicit (unconscious) racial biases and how they treated pain in a simulated African-American or white teenager following surgery: As the strength of provider implicit bias favoring whites increased, the likelihood of prescribing appropriate pain medication decreased only for the black patient. What’s more, a meta-analysis of 20 years of studies covering many sources of pain in numerous settings found that black/African American patients were 22% less likely than white patients to receive any pain medication.

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain

So, is there a scary sounding name to attach to this mindset, or... oh right, even talking about this is just another manifestation of "critical race theory", go back to sleep, don't talk about it, right?

Critical Race Theory

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ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. Well yeah, you know that, I know that, the squirrel munching on acorns on my porch knows that
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:42 AM
Jun 2021

But a lot of the people who believe and promote this mindset are gonna be the same people who will say "I'm not racist, but..." or "I'm not racist, I have a black ___"

Critical Race Theory

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. My feeling is that the truth should be known, taught and studied. I myself am not comfortable
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jun 2021

with the term "race" to explain the different human ethnic groups. This is because I accept science
informing me/us that there's only one race and that's the human race.

Yes, there are different ethnic groups amongst us humans. There is ethnic bigotry. We can identify it
as a problem that affects every society of humans. So I think it doesn't really matter if we call it
"critical race theory" or "ethnic studies", whatever increases understanding and awareness to help
bring peace and harmony into this world is good. (And the study of ethnicity and resulting bigotry is
NOT a theory, it's a fact. Anyone who calls it a theory is saying that they might be right. They're not.)

None of us gets to choose our parents, ethnicity and whatever goes along with that. We can,
however, choose just what kind of people we want to be. Let's all choose wisely and productively.



ck4829

(35,077 posts)
7. First thing to remember is that race and ethnicity are both socially constructed concepts
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:06 AM
Jun 2021

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"None of us gets to choose our parents, ethnicity and whatever goes along with that."

I feel like that this is a scratch but I think we can delve deeper here, I think that our race/ethnic identities are not something we are necessarily born into either, but they are chosen for us against our will by a number of institutions; ranging from culture, borders of countries, to religion, medicine, to the government, media, and more.

It's not something in our DNA or in family trees; it's something that one could really say is something that is manufactured, patented, packaged, marketed, and sold to us.

Race and even ethnicity is not natural, normal, genetic, or divinely-inspired... it should actually be an easy truth to say, teach, and hear, but we see that it still is not.

Critical Race Theory

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
11. It's a positive to keep discussing this and make some people more aware than they are now.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jun 2021

But this "racism"/ethnic bigotry is only one of many bigotries/prejudices we're dealing with. There
are age, gender, political and religious bigotries/prejudices to deal with too. I'm convinced that there is
a genetic/DNA link to thought processes and behaviors and that these drive society and vice-versa
in a never-ending loop.

I don't see that education alone is the answer since many of the most viral Fascists we have today
have been educated so that leaves us to think about the best way forward. But lets keep going, by
all means.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,357 posts)
8. Critical race theory and ethnic studies are different things.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:15 AM
Jun 2021

Also, the "theory" in "critical race theory" is the scientific use of the term, meaning it's an explanation of how or why systemic racism is perpetuated, not a guess about whether it exists or not.

brush

(53,788 posts)
10. We're all the same species...humans. So called racial charactteristics...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jun 2021

are adaptations to climate...melanin and all that.

Here's a good question: Are black horses the same species as white horses?

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. Racial/ethnic differences in experimental pain sensitivity and associated factors - Cardiovascular r
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:57 AM
Jun 2021
Racial/ethnic differences in experimental pain sensitivity and associated factors – Cardiovascular responsiveness and psychological status

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6472780/

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
6. It's Frank Luntz designed word salad
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:05 AM
Jun 2021

Republicans can't define Critical Race Theory. But it has three important things to unpack.

1) Critical - That sounds like university level thinking is involved. They all know in their guts that they are smarter than some dumb professor.
2) Race - That's an automatic trigger word for closeted white supremecist conservatives. It's a keeper.
3) Theory - More university level thinking involved with that word in addition to not being called a fact. That opens up the door for alternate theories, so any uninformed opinion will do.

Did I get that right?

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