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The death penalty is barbaric (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 OP
Yeah any forced death is barbaric at140 Jun 2021 #1
But bloody supports that edhopper Jun 2021 #6
Most murderers need to be separated from society for life. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #11
How do you feel about solitary confinement? brooklynite Jun 2021 #16
That's a hard one. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #17
If sentenced to life without parole, what can you do to prevent violent behavior in gen pop? brooklynite Jun 2021 #18
Solitary confinement. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #20
It's our form of, no really, it's our human sacrifice ck4829 Jun 2021 #2
The state should not have legal power to commit pre-meditated murder Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #3
Disgusting how many DUers are ok with it! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #4
Perhaps you've not noticed how many here gleefully call for rapes, beatings, and deaths in jail. Treefrog Jun 2021 #31
the Catholic Churh is fine giving Communion to those who support it Skittles Jun 2021 #5
Priorities Red Mountain Jun 2021 #9
The whole judicial system randr Jun 2021 #7
Yes, barbaric and immoral and with the for profit prisons/slave labor, our nation's shame. ShazamIam Jun 2021 #8
Disgusts me, I'm a buddhist/part quaker in spirit sometimes active and find killing other humans... wcmagumba Jun 2021 #10
It's also very stupid from a purely pragmatic standpoint. It costs multiples more to Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #12
I know a lot of people claim to be Christian. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #13
They have a holy book that has some kind of rule about not killing Mariana Jun 2021 #28
I have always been against capital punishment Silver Swan Jun 2021 #14
One time around 1980 my mom and I were in the waiting room of a car dealership. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #15
What's ridiculous is the number of anti-abortionists who are pro-death penalty Blue Owl Jun 2021 #19
The innocent unborn vs murderers Calculating Jun 2021 #23
Pretty much the whole criminal justice system is. But abolishing the death penalty would be a start. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2021 #21
Some crimes are so absolutely awful they deserve it Calculating Jun 2021 #22
What about all the people on death row who have been exonerated? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2021 #24
A lot of that was mistakes made before modern DNA testing and forensics Calculating Jun 2021 #25
DNA evidence is 99.999% accurate at140 Jun 2021 #27
The inherent barbarism of the death penalty and its capricious use started me on the road GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #26
Agreed mvd Jun 2021 #29
Barbaric. RegularJam Jun 2021 #30

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. Most murderers need to be separated from society for life.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jun 2021

We can achieve that without becoming murderers ourselves.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
16. How do you feel about solitary confinement?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jun 2021

Some people (here) think that's equally barbaric. If a convicted murderer is physically healthy, do they deserve anything more than that?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. That's a hard one.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:28 PM
Jun 2021

Amnesty International has called for an end to prolonged solitary confinement. Life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for the worst of the worst seems like enough.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. Solitary confinement.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jun 2021

If a lifer breaks the rules while in the general population then solitary confinement is an appropriate escalation in punishment.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
2. It's our form of, no really, it's our human sacrifice
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:22 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Tue Jun 29, 2021, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

We do it because some lawmakers are convinced it will lower the crime rate through deterring or what-have-you. It has a supernatural effect according to our society.

It’s also filled with rituals; death row, the last meal, the chamber, filling out the final appeals, etc.

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Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
31. Perhaps you've not noticed how many here gleefully call for rapes, beatings, and deaths in jail.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:38 AM
Jun 2021

Never mind the also gleeful posts about unfazed people dying.

Red Mountain

(1,735 posts)
9. Priorities
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:38 PM
Jun 2021

I'm not entirely sure theirs are defensible.

I'd be fine with capital punishment if it was the inevitable consequence of it having been imposed in error.

Judge, prosecutor, DA.......there should be consequences.

People have been executed in error.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
10. Disgusts me, I'm a buddhist/part quaker in spirit sometimes active and find killing other humans...
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jun 2021

by state structured premeditation supremely wrong...

Scrivener7

(50,955 posts)
12. It's also very stupid from a purely pragmatic standpoint. It costs multiples more to
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:02 PM
Jun 2021

execute a prisoner than it does to incarcerate someone for life.

Someone like Ted Bundy, for example, who people will point to as a perfect example of why they want the death penalty? My answer is that I wouldn't want to pay more than necessary to keep him from killing more women. Jailing him for life would have been much cheaper.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
13. I know a lot of people claim to be Christian.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 08:30 PM
Jun 2021

Don't they have a holy book that has some kind of rule about not killing? I think they call it a Commandment? I have never seen that rule printed out with a lot of footnotes or fine print explaining when it is okay to kill. I wonder why?

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
28. They have a holy book that has some kind of rule about not killing
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:02 PM
Jun 2021

and then, according to the same book, God proceeds to command that the death penalty be imposed for all sorts of transgressions.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. One time around 1980 my mom and I were in the waiting room of a car dealership.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:13 PM
Jun 2021

I think I influenced her politics as much as she influenced mine. Anyway a Phil Donahue show on the death penalty was on and the people in the waiting room could tell by my facial expressions I clearly opposed it. Somebody said something when I left the room and my mom said if that's the way he feels that's the way he feels. I am extremely uncomfortable in the taking of life in any instance with the emphasis on any.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
22. Some crimes are so absolutely awful they deserve it
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 10:21 PM
Jun 2021

I'll always have this opinion. It's an insult to the family of the victim, and offends me that some filth are breathing the same air as actual humans.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. What about all the people on death row who have been exonerated?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 10:52 PM
Jun 2021

Some after spending decades on death row.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
25. A lot of that was mistakes made before modern DNA testing and forensics
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jun 2021

And IMO the death penalty is given out far too often, and too delayed. It should only be given for the really extreme crimes where there's very strong proof of guilt, and then carried out quickly. IE, I wouldn't give the death penalty for simple murders/robberies gone bad/etc. Stuff like murdering children, serial killers, really disturbing murders, etc...Fry em.

at140

(6,110 posts)
27. DNA evidence is 99.999% accurate
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:41 PM
Jun 2021

Gone are the pre-DNA days when people were sentenced to harsh penalties based on eye-witnesses alone.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
26. The inherent barbarism of the death penalty and its capricious use started me on the road
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jun 2021

From conservative to social democrat. 25 years ago. It was a slow road but that was the initiating factor. Once one fallacy is exposed to an honest person they all go.

It’s indefensible without giving up part of your humanity.

mvd

(65,174 posts)
29. Agreed
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 07:14 AM
Jun 2021

I am both morally and practically against it.

And for all these states who want to give people another option because they can’t do lethal injection, if it’s all about having the execution they might as well have stoning, the guillotine and being eaten by lions as options.

Death penalty should just go away.

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