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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:45 PM Jun 2021

He's selling the same ol' snake oil...

Last edited Sat Jun 26, 2021, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Their logic says that Trump was so popular, with his huge rallies, that it was impossible for him to lose. He received almost 10 million more votes than any Republican had ever gotten. Therefore, it was impossible for him to be beaten. If he lost, the election had to be rigged, just like he said.

Also, none of his votes were questioned. So they must have been legitimate?

But, they fail to accept the possibility that more people intensely disliked Donald Trump than intensely worshiped him. Not only was it possible, that more people might vote against him, it actually happened. They were fearful of what a Trump presidency would mean for this country. And they have been proven right.

Joe Biden received 7 million more votes than Trump nationwide. How could that be possible? It had to be a fraud!

Because there were many more people that wanted the nation united, rather than divided. They went to the polls and voted for Joe Biden. Because they could see the scam that Trump was running, and they were able to comprehend what they were seeing. It was very unfortunate that so many did not comprehend what was happening.

So now, they are able to put all logic aside. The election was a fraud, just like Trump said. Because they could not see the scam that was right in front of their eyes, they went to Washington by the scores of thousands. And when their Leader said they would have to fight or "they would not have a country", they heeded the call. They attacked our Capitol. It was nothing short of domestic terrorism.

Still, they believe.

Never mind that city and county election officials, as well as Secretarys of State, Attorney Generals, courts all over the land, and the Supreme Court, ruled against them, that was not enough to persuade them. They refused to listen to the "fake news" and the only source they truly relied upon was Donald Trump. It was a cult of personality. But a cult, nonetheless.

There was an army of sycophants. None moreso than his lawyer and long-time friend and confidante, Rudy Giuliani.

Today, we learn that Mr Giuliani's lawyer permit for the state of New York has been suspended. It was only a short time ago that they raided the office and home of Mr Giuliani and confiscated phones and other evidence.

The ruling against Rudy today was very specific, in where and when he lied. He was likely the biggest proponent of the "Big Lie". They called him on it today.

If there is incriminating evidence on his confiscated phones, Rudy could be in a world of trouble?

He was a big part of the "Big Lie".

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MiniMe

(21,719 posts)
2. He didn't win the popular vote in the 2016 election either.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:55 PM
Jun 2021

Even though tRump didn't believe that either. Suck it up Loser.

underpants

(182,911 posts)
3. He didn't get a majority of votes in the 2016 primaries either
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:06 PM
Jun 2021

He won the early states with less than 30% of the vote if memory serves.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. Yes, in 2016 the heavy hand of sPUTIN et al affected the presidential election here in the
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jun 2021

U.S. , the Brexit debacle in the U.K., and likely those in other countries too.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
8. Fun trivia fact: Only ONCE in the last 30 years has a Republican won the popular vote
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:18 AM
Jun 2021

2004, Bush v Kerry. And even then it was much closer, only by about 3 million votes rather than Biden's 7 million.

Unseating an incumbent is difficult and yet Democrats have done it twice between 1992 and now. Republicans haven't done it since 1980.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
9. Hillary beat him in the popular vote by about 3 million
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:25 AM
Jun 2021

That's why even though she wasn't my first choice, I still want to fight people who call her a loser. If we didn't have the electoral college bullshit, if we really stuck to 1 person = 1 vote, she would have become President in January 2017.

And she would have been SO MUCH better on COVID. Health care was always her biggest issue. It's possible that hundreds of thousands of people died who might have had more of a fighting chance, because she would have taken it seriously from day one. I will be angry about this until they put me in the ground.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
5. Because they live in a MAGA bubble...
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 12:33 AM
Jun 2021

Only watch Fox, only get Facebook feeds that spread their info, only talk to family and coworkers who think like they do. Then they see the big rallies, not realizing that most normal people don't go to rallies but still vote anyway. Its like people who go to a mega church and only hang with religious people and don't realize the majority of the world is not into organized religion.

In their bubble they think their numbers are much greater than they are....now tell them the election was stolen and they think it even more.

calimary

(81,514 posts)
7. Man-oh-man how far ol' Rudy has fallen.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:08 AM
Jun 2021

I remember when 9/11 occurred, he was almost on track for sainthood. Good grief but everybody was gushing about how he took charge and kept the updates coming and was a real leader. “America’s Mayor” they hailed him.

And now? He’s a joke. A bad joke. A sad joke. A pathetic joke. A catastrophic humiliation. And a total disgrace.

Touched by donald trump. And now Rudy’s thoroughly fucked. And you know what they say about donald. Everything trump touches dies.

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