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I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:39 PM Jun 2021

Current events and PTSD.

I have a clinical diagnosis of PTSD.

The orange monster would trigger me the minute I saw him or heard his disgusting voice. He made the four years he was squatting in the Whitehouse
intolerable to me.

He reminded me of every abuser I have dealt with in my life.
Every damn time I saw him or heard him.It was a huge trigger.

Those four years of the orange pusbag had me having more symptoms everyday.
Being politically aware during that time was a nightmare.
But I had to watch because my survival was being threatened as they toyed with hud,considered destroying snap,SSI or destroy medicare/ medicaid.

But even now with Biden thankfully as president I feel a constant anxiety regardless.

I wonder what can we do to stop the fascists?
How to restore voting rights and stop the thieves changing the laws?

How to stop the quanon,the Tucker Carlson's,the Oan,the Newsmax and Fox?

How to get around or end the filibuster?

When those dinos are claiming to be there for us, to be in line with us act on thier fantasies and preferences over what is really happening before our eyes?

Reminds me of Everytime I reached out for help growing up ,and was blown off
and the abuse ,minimized or denied. Like I was making it all up.

How are we going to get the conservadems to wake up and realize democracy is dying because of them and thier stupid beliefs and preferences that they have have no basis in reality?

The bullshit by the conservadems triggers me like the good christian who to other people looked like such a good man,while behind closed doors he wounded me.

What about the magat crazies and militias,the racists,bad cops, and gun nuts itching for civil war. The insurrection .what are we going to do about them?

How many times will we get punched in the face before we
call the abusers abusive?

What about the wingnut stacked courts?
How long until the social safety net is gone?

How will I survive if republicans destroy it all?

I won't survive it.

Being transgender and watching these assholes and evilgelicals chip away at my human rights and the ability to be who I am without danger,triggers me.

What happens in politics affects me personally like everyone else.

I am scared that this right wing cancer won't be cut out of politics in time,and it's hate media reigned in and condemned ,as it destroys the social contract that makes living in a civilization possible. As the propaganda makes more rage addicted followers out of people's family members?

How long will it be until the abusers with thier inhumanity,greed
,Cruelty and control games and fuck people over are stopped ?
Will it go on until I don't recognize the country I grew up in anymore?

The right wing control games,gaslighting and bullying reminds me of every abusive situation I have lived through.

The abuse dynamics throwing this country into turmoil are so obvious.

Yet it seems no politician wants
to see it as abuse being writ large across America.

But there it is

We need to see these problems and problem people as the abusive sociopaths they are.

And that hesitancy to see it and call it what it is triggers me too.

The right wing abuses and destroys everything and everyone.

They count on having no consequences for thier behavior ,beliefs and abuse,especially if they are rich.

That abuse the right wing does is why I call the GQP the psychopath party.

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Current events and PTSD. (Original Post) I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 OP
Sometimes the healthy thing is to step away for a while Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #1
I know about coping mechanisms I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #2
I'm sorry that my post came across that way. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #18
It's ok I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #21
I am in the same situation as the OP. Pretending it isn't happening does not work. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #20
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings, Panther. Hugin Jun 2021 #3
I understand a little bit what you are going through. I have PTSD too and the abuse in LiberalLoner Jun 2021 #4
I understand dissociation I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #7
❤️❤️❤️ LiberalLoner Jun 2021 #17
I'm so sorry. Same diagnosis. onecaliberal Jun 2021 #5
I am dealing with PTSD and depression Saoirse9 Jun 2021 #6
Down playing the threats I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #10
I don't get triggered by remarks like that for some reason Saoirse9 Jun 2021 #12
Thank you I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #8
I hear you... and I'm right there with you slightlv Jun 2021 #9
I found capsules I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #11
Wow you're really handy with herbs! Saoirse9 Jun 2021 #13
Ok I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #15
I take that too Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #19
I know exactly how you feel Underground. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #14
All that you expressed and more. sprinkleeninow Jun 2021 #16

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
1. Sometimes the healthy thing is to step away for a while
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:43 PM
Jun 2021

Focus on a craft or a hobby. Spend time with friends or family. You know what makes you anxious, that is a good step. Now you need to choose not to be in that situation that makes you anxious until you are feeling stronger

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
2. I know about coping mechanisms
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:53 PM
Jun 2021

When I don't feel safe all the coping mechanisms and relaxation techniques are ineffective.

Because of these political situation(s)
I feel unsafe. Ignoring it or telling myself I am getting worked up over nothing it just makes me more anxious.

Telling me to calm down in situations like this is guaranteed I won't calm down

So I wrote about it .

And the first poster,you
,Didn't even aknowlege what I wrote.


Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
18. I'm sorry that my post came across that way.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:07 AM
Jun 2021

I have major clinical depression and a severe anxiety/pstd disorder that I have been working on for years now. With help from meds and a therapist I am able to function much better. One of the things I needed to do when overwhelmed by political and social issues, stepping away for a bit and focusing on a hobby helped. That is all I was trying to say. I am sorry that my words upset you. I should have worded it differently.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
20. I am in the same situation as the OP. Pretending it isn't happening does not work.
Mon Jun 28, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jun 2021

The threat is real, and hiding from it only makes the anxiety worse.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
3. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings, Panther.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jun 2021

Like you I have some existing mental idiosyncrasies which have been inflamed by the events of the past several years. I really believe those who haven't or claim they haven't suffered are those who are really not self-aware and empathic enough to notice or care.



LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
4. I understand a little bit what you are going through. I have PTSD too and the abuse in
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jun 2021

Childhood. Triggering, for sure. But you can’t look away because you know you are in danger. Hypervigilence.

You are right, coping mechanisms don’t work until you feel safe.

Sometimes I dissociate these days. Not on purpose.

When I’m cuddling with my kitty Bobo I feel better for a little bit.

I’m sorry you are going through this.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
7. I understand dissociation
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:34 PM
Jun 2021

Have dissociative Identity too.

My therapist has asked me to be present more,because I was losing shit loads of time.

Soo.. I am trying to be present and deal with the world at the same time. So its trigger central and I don't feel safe in the world. Not suicidal,but feel unsafe regarding what's happening.

I am very picky about my news sources. NPR
is one source I listen to. MSNBC once in awhile. Especially when Biden's on.
And there's DU.

I don't listen to drama bullshit or the talking head arguers.

You'd have to kill me before I'd watch any right wingnut propaganda channel.

I get a triggers panicky reaction to right wing talking points or propaganda.

Basically I am allergic to bullshit.

onecaliberal

(32,916 posts)
5. I'm so sorry. Same diagnosis.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:03 PM
Jun 2021

It’s difficult to manage the daily triggers.

The GOP are evil and without humanity. They don’t care about anyone.

You are not alone.

Saoirse9

(3,684 posts)
6. I am dealing with PTSD and depression
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:24 PM
Jun 2021

It takes a lot to calm myself down at night so I can sleep. The whole country needs help for PTSD. Doesn't help that we are still dealing with trumpism and voter suppression so we need ongoing help because the trauma is still happening to us.

The former guy is an ongoing existential threat and he needs to pay for his crimes so he doesn't keep committing them. Any one of us could have and many of us did fall victim to his violent threats.

I don't take breaks from the news exactly. But I do only get notifications for a handful of people on Twitter who aren't fear mongering. I learned to filter my news carefully. They tend to be the first to tweet out good news too.

I have completely given up on mainstream news. I only look at headlines now. Tired of reading stuff that downplays the threat that TFG poses, and the real motivation behind GQP.

I know this insanity will end eventually. But it is still terrifying.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
10. Down playing the threats
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jun 2021

Posed by the entire right-wing is very triggering.

Like when republicans said the insurrection was like any other day when tourists visit the capital.

I wonder if they are deliberately
trying to trigger people.

Saoirse9

(3,684 posts)
12. I don't get triggered by remarks like that for some reason
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jun 2021

Just very fucking angry, at least momentarily. They are trying hard to put it behind them so they can do it again in a couple years. Or sooner.

I can't analyze their insane behavior. I think I would have to be as crazy as they are to figure out why the hell they behave that way.

Probably at least partly, denial. Embarrassed that they kept a guy in power who would willingly get them killed for no reason at all.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
8. Thank you
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:41 PM
Jun 2021

For the support.

I wrote it all down to try to cope. Sometimes just saying it out loud to other people helps too.

Thanks for all the kind posts you all give me a little hope there 8s something good in this world.

Cats,however have always been the best thing about existing.

My Othello's on my lap and I gotta pee. And I will hold it till the very last second
..that keeps me present..lol.

slightlv

(2,845 posts)
9. I hear you... and I'm right there with you
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jun 2021

I even had the house in an uproar the other night about 4am. They had to try to wake me up out of a night terror. Trump was walking in, half dressed, carrying bedding.

I think this whole country is in PTSD. We're the ones recognizing it. The other side doesn't even realize they're being manipulated with it! I don't know how to deal with it. I got myself a big dog, hoping she would help. I lost my helper dog at Christmas 2 years ago. As much as I love this baby, she isn't and will never be what my Porter was to me. In addition, she's much more attached to hubby. :>

I can't remember when I've last had a good, decent night's sleep. If you find something that helps, please post. We're all different, but we're also all going thru something similar.

For now, all I can offer is understanding and {{hugs}}.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
11. I found capsules
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jun 2021

Of hops flowers help along with 20 mg of melatonin and a valerian root capsule.
I take all 3 with my regular night meds.

I drink some camomile,mugwort and catnip tea as part of my bed routine too.

I get the herbs dried and mix the blend myself.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
15. Ok
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jun 2021

Nature's Way Hops Flowers 620 mg.
Usually take 2 capsules.

Melatonin ,Spring Valley 10 mgs. Take two of them.

Solaray Valerian Root 470mgs.
Take one or two of those.

Also my psych prescribes me Prasosin. It's a blood pressure medicine but it also stops PTSD nightmares. First time I took it in the hospital my psych there said it would work on the first night I took it.I didn't believe him.

Well to my surprise it worked. Here's some info about it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3425466/

I highly recommend it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. I know exactly how you feel Underground.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jun 2021

I feel exactly the same way about everything. I wish someone would write a book about it just to acknowlege what we have all been through and the toll it is taking on us.

It's real and it's palpable. There are so many times when I feel the way I used to in my early 20's when I was first struggling with my anxiety and depression and trying to work through the trauma of my childhood. Through years of therapy and working on the right medications, I was able to get to a good place.

But these past 5 - 6 years is like going through it all over again - you are right about it triggering the abuse and the gaslighting about the abuse - and it has done a lot of damage to those of us who struggle with this.

The feelings are as real as they ever were, but without a formal, professional acknowlegement of the mental and psychological damage these people have done to us, it's hard for us to believe that there is a legitimate reason for feeling the way we do, and it can be so confusing and even more crazy-making.

Hang in there and keep sharing. Pain shared is halved and knowing that others know what you are going through helps.

sprinkleeninow

(20,267 posts)
16. All that you expressed and more.
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:48 PM
Jun 2021

I don't have a clinical diagnosis, but I do believe it can apply to me.

Coping mechanisms work temporarily.

My mom used to say someone suffered a 'trauma'. That was way back when PTSD was not a known thing.

♥️

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