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Fla Dem

(23,742 posts)
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 12:34 PM Jun 2021

What amazes me, is a building as tall as the Champlain had no steel structure.

It was all concrete and rebar columns.

I worked in Boston in the late 60's thru 90's. There was a hell of a lot of high rise construction going on during that period. I don't think I saw any buildings go up without a steel structure to support it.

What I mean by a steel structure;



Prudential Tower Building construction 1960 - 1964



Empire State Building 1930



How the heck did the developers/engineers ever think a concrete 13 story building, with underground supports of concrete would hold up in a salt water and sand environment.

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What amazes me, is a building as tall as the Champlain had no steel structure. (Original Post) Fla Dem Jun 2021 OP
Even steel would have a hard time sboatcar Jun 2021 #1
"we don't need no steenkin' regulations" nt oasis Jun 2021 #2
Regulations are so burdensome. Bribery is so much more efficient Walleye Jun 2021 #3
Iron worker or structural engineer? marble falls Jun 2021 #4
Fun Fact: Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago is the tallest concrete building Klaralven Jun 2021 #5
Great article. It certainly explained cosmetically why concrete consturcted buildings Fla Dem Jun 2021 #6

sboatcar

(415 posts)
1. Even steel would have a hard time
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jun 2021

Honestly, it seems like Florida's lax regulations on just about everything are coming to bite its residents in the ass.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. Fun Fact: Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago is the tallest concrete building
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jun 2021
The 92-storey building has 242,000m2 of floor space and has 486 luxury residential condominiums. The tower also has a luxury hotel condominium with 339 guest rooms, retail space and a large parking garage.


https://www.constructionweekonline.com/article-9184-top-10-worlds-tallest-concrete-buildings

Height: 423m (1387.8 feet)

The building received publicity when the winner of the first season of The Apprentice reality television show, Bill Rancic, chose to manage the construction of the tower over managing a new Trump National Golf Course and resort in Los Angeles.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_International_Hotel_and_Tower_(Chicago)

He seemed competent.

Fla Dem

(23,742 posts)
6. Great article. It certainly explained cosmetically why concrete consturcted buildings
Wed Jun 30, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jun 2021

became more popular than a steel structured high rise. What it didn't answer was which method was safer over the long run and which would need more maintenance, more frequently to keep it safe.

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