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WarGamer

(12,356 posts)
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:16 PM Jul 2021

California Rent Assistance, UI and the Newsom recall.

Even though I'm currently in NoVA, I've lived in SoCal most of my life and I'm friends with my swimming pool guy... known him for 10+ years.

Just got word from him today that the California backed effort to pay past-due rent came through. He got a letter saying that his application was APPROVED and within 7 days over $12,000 would be paid to his apartment complex. That's in addition to more than $1000 in utilities paid...

In addition, they're prepared to pay more rent assistance AND UI through September...

THIS is what California has done with it's financial success over the last decade, with help from the Fed Gov't.

Think Newsom is going to survive the recall election 9/14??

I do!

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California Rent Assistance, UI and the Newsom recall. (Original Post) WarGamer Jul 2021 OP
If everyone gets evicted at the same time it will be mayhem. Renters applegrove Jul 2021 #1
The shelters... Newest Reality Jul 2021 #2
By 'shelter' i was including the hotels the city of ottawa uses to house applegrove Jul 2021 #3
I see... Newest Reality Jul 2021 #5
Oh I wish you all the best. There is no way i could tell from your writing that you had any aphasia. applegrove Jul 2021 #6
Excellent post. Thank you for this. nt crickets Jul 2021 #4

applegrove

(118,494 posts)
1. If everyone gets evicted at the same time it will be mayhem. Renters
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 09:27 PM
Jul 2021

will become inelligeable, landlords will lose money and the market will destabilize. That doesn't even go into the emotional toll and suicides that will result when social workers in the city are forced to move the newly homeless into dangerous neighborhoods and buildings because the homeless shelters are full.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. The shelters...
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:12 PM
Jul 2021

The shelters in many places are already full from what I understand and have seen.

Secondly there are two kinds of homeless populations and one was rather small before this predicament brought on by COVID, though the impact of the spread of the virus has also revealed a lot about the state of half of our citizens financially, mentally and emotionally, as well.

One group is the stereotypical collection of people with issues brought on and exacerbated by the stress of both their mental states and the tendency to be unstable along with people who have various kinds of debilitating drug addictions that are either long-term or a result of suddenly being on the streets, and the people who are products of the incarceration nation we have become over the decades.

The other group is growing now and that is comprised of the once employed and stable people who are suddenly thrust into the melee of street life without any idea of what that entails and how to survive under those conditions, (like spending every single day in a form of survival mode). That comes with a steep and potentially severe learning curve.

While I feel for the people who have been abandoned in so many ways what with the closing of mental health facilities long ago, (the prisons usually make up for that) and I don't moralize about addictions as a failure of will or character, nor do I consider ex-felons and even petty criminals, who are often discriminated against in so many ways and even jailed for "victimless crimes" the second group is not typical.

In fact, they often have a professional background, more education and that makes them standout in the shelter environment as they strive to adapt quickly.

For myself, shelters are a very bad environment with many risks and even the theft of personal items is common. Attacks and verbal abuse abound, even if unprovoked. People who have been in dire straights for a long time seem to have a tendency to behave in aggressive and even violent ways as the attempt to work out their issues via projection and other means. Also, the shelters do very little to end the churning cycle of poverty, instability and insecurity, so it is only a makeshift way to give them temporary shelter without addressing the actual issues involved. That is a travesty, but it gives the housed a sense of something proactive being accomplished and can even put the matter out of sight.

My first encounters with shelters, the Salvation Army, etc. was so bad that I have chosen to live in a tent when I can since it is actually safer and I think that says a lot about the experience so far. Very often, there is a stereotypical , moral and judgemental bias that people overlay on homeless people in general, still even though more and more people are teetering at the edge of catastrophic displacement today.

We have also placed all the services we used to have in the hands of the police mostly. They are the primary solution at this point and that is what contributes in ways to their stress levels and their abuse of power, as well.

This crisis is systemic and driven by a NIMBY effect as well as the profit over people approach that we now see very clearly unfolding all around the country. Affordable housing is scarce and no new ground is being broken for building it, (which means it may be a year or more before we could even start to grapple with the actual, demonstrated solution: housing FIRST!

applegrove

(118,494 posts)
3. By 'shelter' i was including the hotels the city of ottawa uses to house
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:23 PM
Jul 2021

some homeless families. They got full when the Provincial Conservatives got ellected and immediately cut the shelter allowance for people on welfare which pulled the rug out from under people forcing them to all move in the same months. Where to? - the government had no plan. That was in 1995. It was people on welfare who were all put in crisis at the same time. And they no longer had the money from government welfare to afford vacated apartments. They ended up in dangerous buildings. Can you imagine a woman with kids being forced to sign a lease in a drug infested building with rampant crime? Allowing evictions because of covid would be a bigger ****ing mess.

Oh yes. Tent people near me in the summer months. They don't hurt anyone. Vibes to you and hope you find a safe situation in the long term.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. I see...
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:46 PM
Jul 2021

Yes, that is a good point. You are right.

Thanks. I had what I thought was a stroke and it turned out to be a massive, lemon sized tumor in the brain. I have been in the hospital recovering and then sent to a "nursing home", aka, a healthcare facility. after the initial recovery.

The surgery was successful. I really didn't have much choice other than to continue with aphasia and decline with palliative care and hospice or have it taken out. What I thought was both the product of aging with a very gradual breakdown of my agility, cognition, focus, and with my interests waning over a few years now, (that's gone at least) along with seemed to be a more sudden stroke on left brain, (controlling the left side of the body) became a one-time event that resulted in a convulsion-like episode that got me into the emergency ward. The thing is that i was fully conscious of it. It was very strange indeed.

They have now determined, despite the cognitive hit I have taken in certain ways that are disabling, that I am "well enough" to be discharged now. It was a good respite for a few months though and the stress was much, much lower.

I was able to be strong enough to do the daily survival routine, (which is all life offers in that case) in even in various kinds of severe weather, but after this major surgery catastrophe, I just don't have the will or strength or even the ability to do that at 64, so I am not looking forward at all to returning to that life and my survival is rather questionable and my outlook is not optimistic.

I still don't know what the prognosis will be, either after 5 radiation treatments with high, but focused doses that left me mostly fatigue prone and more absent minded than I was. My next scan will give me a clue as to how successful that was and what my long-term survival will be.

I did feel a very good sense of relief as my faculties returned though. My muscle functioning and speech/language centers are improved now. It was a palpable feeling of relief even though the brain has no sensations, etc.

I am consulting with a social worker and hope she can find the resources that I have not been able to, at least.

I do appreciate your concern and I apologize for the lengthy reply. It's an anecdote to what is going on, though.

applegrove

(118,494 posts)
6. Oh I wish you all the best. There is no way i could tell from your writing that you had any aphasia.
Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:53 PM
Jul 2021

Only person I knew who had a tumour lived 7 or 8 years. Most of that mobile. And that was a generation ago. Thank you for adding your important insights. We need to be prepared for any social engineering red states will do using covid rent crisis to destroy lives. We all need to be better informed on the issue of homelessness. You should do a blog.

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