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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLearning the Hard Way: example of cascading climate disaster due to uncontrollable Earth dynamics.
Lytton, BC, burned to the ground because the heat dome turned the surrounding forest into a tinderbox creating a pyrocumulonimbus event triggering over 700k lightning strikes and forming an inland tropical depression.We puny humans, ALL of us, have a real hard time understanding how fucking fast large systems can change once enough energy builds up. Its all exponential stuff that we just dont usually have the mental capacity to conceptually grasp, nor the alghorithms for predicting or measuring.
There are changes that could easily wipe all life out in a matter of hours on this planet if the right mechanisms got the right energy.
Lytton, BC, is humans' first example.
Humans. WE ALL must learn this now. NOW.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)ancianita
(36,055 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)I'm not trying to minimize the significance of the wildfire which destroyed that town, but saying that it's a precursor to somehing which could exterminate all life on Earth is a wee bit overdramatic.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)We puny humans, ALL of us, have a real hard time understanding how fucking fast large systems can change once enough energy builds up. Its all exponential stuff that we just dont usually have the mental capacity to conceptually grasp, nor the alghorithms for predicting or measuring.
Your life. You learn your way. I'll learn mine.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)as you asserted in your OP. If I'm wrong, please explain how.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)If I'm wrong, please explain how.
If we're stuck without proof, I know which side you'll err on.
So hey, let's dance it out!
Now, can you see those dark clouds gathering up ahead?
They're gonna wash this planet clean like the Bible said
Now you can hold on steady, try to be ready
But everybody's gonna get wet
Don't think it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet
I'm just rolling away from yesterday
Behind the wheel of a stolen Chevrolet
Gonna get a little high and
See if I can hot-wire reality
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Not the most convincing argument I've ever seen....
If I'm wrong, please explain how.
That's not how it works. As the one making the assertion, it's incumbent upon you to defend it. Once you've done so, I'll be happy to explain why you're wrong.
I would point out that you've already acknowledged that I'm the one who's being rational in this matter, though.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)I already told you why cascading climate dynamics are not provable or preventable, only observable.
So given that reality, you can beat me with the irrationality club from your current location.
The start of summer 2021. Watch, kick back and enjoy your rightness for the rest of summer.
Hugin
(33,140 posts)There are those who insist that trying to outrun an avalanche is preferable to smartly stepping out of the way.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)You have asserted (and continue to do so) that these events can destroy all life on Earth in a matter of hours.
How?
Botany
(70,504 posts)... and its largest tributary, the Thompson River.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1916615747872/
A small B.C. village that endured the hottest temperatures ever recorded in Canada for days on end this week was engulfed in flames Wednesday night and residents were forced to flee, many without their belongings.
Mayor Jan Polderman says he told everyone to leave Lytton, as a fire rapidly spread into the community of about 250 people. He signed the official evacuation order at 6 p.m. PT.
"It's dire. The whole town is on fire," Polderman told CBC News. "It took, like, a whole 15 minutes from the first sign of smoke to, all of a sudden, there being fire everywhere."
He said he told residents to head for the nearby community of Boston Bar, and was on his way there himself. A reception centre has also been set up in Merritt to the east, and other residents have taken shelter in Lillooet to the north.
"At the First Nation band office, the fire was a wall about three, four feet high coming up to the fence line. I drove through town and it was just smoke, flames, the wires were down," Polderman said.
Video captured by residents rushing out of town show numerous structures on fire in every direction.
Later Wednesday night, residents of another 87 properties to the north of Lytton were ordered to leave home as well.
Wow!
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Sounds like something the clouds do to celebrate the 4th of July.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)We won't get many more. We needed to act yesterday. The urgency of NOW is upon us all.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)We had a window when we could have reduced the danger. Now, we're in a situation where we can only mitigate and prepare for what's coming at us, our children and grand babies.
The fact that there are still climate deniers is astonishing which will only add to the destruction of life and property that we now have no way of avoiding, merely reduce around the edges. If we're lucky, that is, because the peril could easily be catastrophic.
We cannot pretend our way out of this. Mother Nature is in charge. Mother Nature has always been in charge. We've been too blind to see it, too arrogant to admit it.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)Mitigation starts with me.
jalan48
(13,865 posts)issue facing all of us. Of course, ignoring the biggest issue works for the fossil fuel industry.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,866 posts)Hugin
(33,140 posts)0rganism
(23,953 posts)bummer that we're all still having so much fun with the front half
enjoy the ice cream, right?
We'll someday be reminiscing the good ol' days of the temporary stuff like tornadoes and hurricanes.