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vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:09 AM Jul 2021

3 hours of constant loud fireworks

I'm beyond livid. I'm thinking of driving around the neighborhood and finding who's blowing these off and calling the police. My dogs are near panic and scared to death. Like someone bought a whole stand tonight and decided to shoot them. Like do all the morons around here have their days mixed up?

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3 hours of constant loud fireworks (Original Post) vercetti2021 Jul 2021 OP
Around here they do something purposely to make the loudest and JI7 Jul 2021 #1
There still going on right now. jimfields33 Jul 2021 #7
those are the illegal professional level fireworks. Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #19
Someone's going to lose a finger or two... or a hand... or a face... or their vision. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #44
We had an extended period tonight Grammy23 Jul 2021 #2
Sadly it's the same everywhere montanacowboy Jul 2021 #3
You Think The Police In TX Are Going To Do Anything? SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #4
Here too. I'm so fed up! 😠 nt Raine Jul 2021 #5
Why can't they make amatuer firework displays illegal? smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #6
I had that fascination once vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #8
It actually is illegal in many places but many times the laws are just not enforced JI7 Jul 2021 #9
They're illegal here. It's barely enforced. NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #13
I've lived all over the country where this stuff is purely illegal, in Chicago it's compounded ... marble falls Jul 2021 #64
They are illegal here in San Diego and still there are huge illegal shows all over. Liberty Belle Jul 2021 #23
They are illegal in my state MissMillie Jul 2021 #79
I am sorry about your dogs. Next year, visit your vet for a tranquilizer to make their lives easier Hekate Jul 2021 #10
"Thunder shirts" reportedly also work well to calm Deminpenn Jul 2021 #35
Yeah no luck with these luv2fly Jul 2021 #46
Here as well. Just a preview of tomorrow night's firework display-- RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2021 #11
We give our dog CBD oil. Grumpy Old Guy Jul 2021 #12
My parents need to dope their dog up on goofballs too. AZLD4Candidate Jul 2021 #15
Having put up with class A fireworks for a month nonstop during my 12 years in China AZLD4Candidate Jul 2021 #14
Here in San Francisco too. Demobrat Jul 2021 #20
Sorry for that experience; I expect the same tomorrow and many nights later. SMH... Backseat Driver Jul 2021 #16
my dogs are scared right now too but TalenaGor Jul 2021 #17
i had a little dog with a skin allergy and had to give her half a benadryl 2x a day orleans Jul 2021 #18
Chocolate is toxic for dogs! It can even kill them. Liberty Belle Jul 2021 #25
yes orleans Jul 2021 #78
DON'T GIVE DOGS CHOCOLATE. IT CAN KILL THEM. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #28
Chocolate is DEADLY to dogs. I do not know what kind of vet would approve of that. Ka-Dinh Oy Jul 2021 #34
puppy grade vet prescribed anti-anxiety pills work too AZLD4Candidate Jul 2021 #38
A friend of mine had a separation anxiety dog to. Ka-Dinh Oy Jul 2021 #40
The purer the chocolate and the more cocoa there is in it, the more toxic it is AZLD4Candidate Jul 2021 #37
WTAF. Chocolate cupcakes don't have milk chocolate in them, and chocolate is NEVER good WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #45
NO CHOCOLATE FOR DOGS luv2fly Jul 2021 #47
Yeah no on the chocolate vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #58
I feel for you. About 8 years ago, we were living in a "war zone" DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #21
Once piece of advice about calming dogs I came across was DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #24
Try putting music on to help the dogs, something with a beat, Liberty Belle Jul 2021 #26
It's finally quiet here. KCMO 2:00 am. Still a few off in the distance. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #27
Melatonin also might help DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #32
I take the melatonin. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #41
I use a sound machine for my animals. herding cats Jul 2021 #29
I have one going, too. nt leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #53
I thought I was the only one that despised neighborhood fireworks. Good to know that I'm not. ecdab Jul 2021 #30
It's been oddly quiet here MissB Jul 2021 #31
I live near an annual professional fireworks display. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #33
I enjoy pyrotechnic displays tirebiter Jul 2021 #36
A couple years ago, PA made fireworks legal Deminpenn Jul 2021 #39
You're better served helping your dogs than confronting your neighbors. Renew Deal Jul 2021 #42
I get angry as well our golden retrievers are terrified Duncanpup Jul 2021 #43
We kind of like them. The wife likes to go out and watch them all GulfCoast66 Jul 2021 #48
I do too. One of our Poms is anxious so we give our Vet gave her some medicine that helps. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #73
I like it when the neighborhood goes off with fireworks SYFROYH Jul 2021 #49
It's not just pet owners. hamsterjill Jul 2021 #54
According to one of my neighbors it's his God given leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #56
It's true that some with PTSD suffer. SYFROYH Jul 2021 #65
I'm fine with people having fun. hamsterjill Jul 2021 #69
Yeah well who decides? Sorry, I see nothing wrong with fireworks. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #75
Common courtesy decides. hamsterjill Jul 2021 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Jul 2021 #91
Please...I like fireworks...and some of the responses on this thread...seems like a 'Get Off My Lawn Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #74
It sounds like you want to kill these people. alphafemale Jul 2021 #50
It's gets that bad. All those explosions hour after hour leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #55
I don't want to kill these people vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #59
Feel for ya luv2fly Jul 2021 #60
One is natural luv2fly Jul 2021 #61
I've tried everything with my scaredy pup. Treefrog Jul 2021 #51
Interesting. I am glad something worked. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2021 #52
I give people a pass Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #57
Same, my wife and I spent last night on our porch with some beer, watching the free show Amishman Jul 2021 #77
My (deceased) beagle used to love fireworks Shrek Jul 2021 #62
Idiots were doing that in my 'hood July 4th eve too (day before the 4th) CousinIT Jul 2021 #63
Last night I put the ThunderShirt on my dog and he relaxed right away milestogo Jul 2021 #66
My biggest dog used to shake, but now he goes into his crate, Ilsa Jul 2021 #67
Our county banned fireworks this year due to dry weather conditions Evergreen Emerald Jul 2021 #68
The same thing goes for my neighborhood, too. GoCubsGo Jul 2021 #70
Oh my God NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2021 #71
Did you call me a Karen? vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #83
No NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2021 #98
It is fourth of July. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #72
So .. common courtesy goes out the window? MissMillie Jul 2021 #80
Thank you. hamsterjill Jul 2021 #81
Exactly! vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #84
So people have to suffer because dogs aren't smart enough to know fireworks won't hurt them? Polybius Jul 2021 #87
Lived the better part of my life in a state where fireworks are ILLEGAL MissMillie Jul 2021 #88
I don't do them myself Polybius Jul 2021 #89
I agree...so many holidays are ruined like Halloween...two hour window for Trick or Treat here. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #101
I have no problem with fireworks. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #100
I'm glad to hear you don't suffer from PTSD MissMillie Jul 2021 #102
It is vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #85
I've heard them going off well into the week after the 4th. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #94
Yes? And? AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #93
Enjoy America's annual Celebration of Victorious War with Simulated Gunfire Klaralven Jul 2021 #82
While all of the dogs are hiding under the bed... Polybius Jul 2021 #86
Saw this meme yesterday Polybius Jul 2021 #90
That's the look my cat gets before he runs off. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #95
Oh, my cat loves it Polybius Jul 2021 #97
Don't get me started. AngryOldDem Jul 2021 #92
Ugh Lemon Lyman Jul 2021 #96
We've had many pets over the years Bettie Jul 2021 #99

JI7

(89,283 posts)
1. Around here they do something purposely to make the loudest and
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:13 AM
Jul 2021

strongest BOOM sound which sets off alarms.

Stupid ignorant fucks who need to make loud noises to enjoy themselves .

jimfields33

(16,067 posts)
7. There still going on right now.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:38 AM
Jul 2021

I’m outside and it’s steady. Luckily I can’t hear it much inside….very muffled.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. Someone's going to lose a finger or two... or a hand... or a face... or their vision.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:04 AM
Jul 2021

It happens every year.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
2. We had an extended period tonight
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jul 2021

In our neighborhood where the shelling went on and on. Probably two hours. My husband noted that some one or several some ones dropped some serious coin for these noise makers. Sparklers they were not. Thank goodness they’ve been quiet for a while. We’ve been promised (warned) that tomorrow’s show will be louder, longer and more intense. Gee, thanks. 🙄

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
4. You Think The Police In TX Are Going To Do Anything?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jul 2021

They're liable to arrest You for being "Unamerican," or some such bullshit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Why can't they make amatuer firework displays illegal?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:37 AM
Jul 2021

Most people hate them except for the idiots setting them off. Slap a hefty fine on people who set them off and rake in some money. Use it to help the homeless or donate it to a food bank. I will never get the American fascination with blowing shit up.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
8. I had that fascination once
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:41 AM
Jul 2021

But like most adults I grew up and out of blowing up shit. My grandmother always got after me for pissing away my money. She was right all along

NYC Liberal

(20,138 posts)
13. They're illegal here. It's barely enforced.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:28 AM
Jul 2021
In New York City, all consumer fireworks, including sparklers, are illegal to use, buy, sell, or transport.

What Happens Next

Officers from your local police precinct will respond when they are not handling emergency situations.

https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-02249


(ie, don't hold your breath waiting)

marble falls

(57,420 posts)
64. I've lived all over the country where this stuff is purely illegal, in Chicago it's compounded ...
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jul 2021

... with gunfire, especially at New Years. There's not enough cops to stop it.

I was surprised how few there were last night. My ferals weren't a bit nervous.

But I have a feeling the "100" will be doing some extra huge things tonight. The threat of rain might have kept them reined in last night.

It's going to rain today, so who knows?

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
23. They are illegal here in San Diego and still there are huge illegal shows all over.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:59 AM
Jul 2021

People get them from Mexico, AZ, or other places they are legal and bring them in here. It's noisy, scary, the dogs and wildlife all go nuts. Last year it looked like a pro show complete with finale; I called more than once, nothing was done. Last night someone started a small brush fire a couple of miles away with fireworks.

The cops rarely do anything about it and even when they try, it gets screwed up Two days ago in LA the cops seized 2 and a half tons of illegal fireworks but it accidentally blew up, injured a bunch of people and damaged several buildings. The lid off the "containment" vehicle was found 2 or 3 blocks away.

MissMillie

(38,597 posts)
79. They are illegal in my state
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jul 2021

Doesn't stop people from lighting them off.

I think the cops should ticket the people lighting them off, levy a HEFTY fine.

Then next year there will be a bunch of money in this fund, where those of us who have dog licenses can apply to be reimbursed when you have to medicate our animals because of this crap.

We have 4 dogs. We have a kennel license. We follow the rules.



Hekate

(90,956 posts)
10. I am sorry about your dogs. Next year, visit your vet for a tranquilizer to make their lives easier
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:15 AM
Jul 2021

Long ago we had a sweet little Sheltie who was terribly stressed by the 4th of July, and our vet suggested a light tranquilizer to help him through.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,439 posts)
11. Here as well. Just a preview of tomorrow night's firework display--
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:25 AM
Jul 2021

..sure the fire department will drive up and down the highway as a warning, yet every year same same ole--they can't catch the culprits in the act. My little dog is so frightened and is sitting right next to me shaking; he so nervous that when here's a boom..he jumps off the couch goes to another room. More of same tomorrow.

Stay safe y paz.

Grumpy Old Guy

(3,184 posts)
12. We give our dog CBD oil.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:26 AM
Jul 2021

It really helps her a lot.

I feel I should buy her a tie-died t-shirt and some bell bottoms.

In all seriousness, around here it's a year round problem, but worse near the 4th of July. This year doesn't seem as bad as it's been in the past.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,838 posts)
14. Having put up with class A fireworks for a month nonstop during my 12 years in China
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:30 AM
Jul 2021

for Spring Festival, I don't even hear it anymore out here in Arizona.

I'm so used to it.

However, living in a tinder box under fire restrictions in an exceptional drought (even though it has rained the last three days), it is a safety hazard out here.

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
17. my dogs are scared right now too but
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:42 AM
Jul 2021

at least in my area its legal jul 1-5 from like 5-11 pm or something...so I cant really do much...
calming treats and a blanket in the center-most spot in the house seems to be helping

orleans

(34,088 posts)
18. i had a little dog with a skin allergy and had to give her half a benadryl 2x a day
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:43 AM
Jul 2021

one day i took her in to be groomed at petsmart & they asked if she was on any medication. i told them i had given her half a benadryl that morning and they refused to groom her. i asked why & they told me they won't groom dogs when people give them a tranquilizer before grooming. i was so pissed off--told them about her allergy and this was prescribed to her and they didn't believe me. assholes!

anyway, benadryl can have a calming effect on dogs.

so can milk chocolate (not dark chocolate).

one of my dogs ate half a chocolate cupcake at a party one night (thank you six year old neighbor for leaving your plate on the living room floor). my pooch was terrified of thunder and loud storms and we had a horrible one that night and she was calm as a cuke; she wasn't trembling and freaking out.

i talked to a vet about it a couple days later and they said milk chocolate was a little known secret--it has a calming effect on dogs. after that we would give her a few bites of three musketeers when a storm was coming and it helped a lot.

google benadryl for dogs
one link i found did say this: "Benadryl would be contraindicated in dogs that have had an adverse side effect to Benadryl or any other antihistamine. Benadryl should also be used cautiously in dogs with glaucoma, difficulty urinating due to an enlarged prostate or obstructions at the neck of the bladder, vomiting due to an obstruction at the pylorus (between the stomach and duodenum), hyperthyroid disease, cardiovascular disease and/or high blood pressure (hypertension)."

https://iheartdogs.com/giving-benadryl-to-dogs/

also, during fireworks (back when i lived in a house), i'd blast the tv, blast music, turn all the fans and ac on to try and drown out the sound of my dickhead neighbors shooting off fireworks in the street (in front of my house! one dickhead lived across the street & the other one lived next door. and their dogs would freak out and poop and throw up in their houses but, being dickheads, they did not care.) they also set fireworks off on new yrs eve. ugh.

good luck with your dogs.





orleans

(34,088 posts)
78. yes
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jul 2021

but not to split hairs -- (from your link) "For many dogs, ingesting small amounts of milk chocolate is not harmful." and that is probably the take my vet had on it.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
34. Chocolate is DEADLY to dogs. I do not know what kind of vet would approve of that.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:36 AM
Jul 2021

Cannabis really helps calm dogs and cats. Diffusing lavender actually helps dogs relax. Worked on my hyper beagle.

As far as the not bathing because of taking tranquilizers I have never heard of that. They actually use that on some dogs to bath and cut their hair. I was an assistant dog groomer for 11 1/2 years so this is knowledgeable territory for me.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,838 posts)
38. puppy grade vet prescribed anti-anxiety pills work too
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:01 AM
Jul 2021

My parents dope their separate anxiety riddled, severely abused by its previous owner rescue dog on goofballs any time they go out for dinner, or else the dog will go nuts and will literally EAT the house.

Crates. . I know. The dog broke two heavy duty crates already.

They have to dope him up, lift up all the windows, open all doors, and keep the TV on or else is munch-munch time on door moldings and furniture.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
40. A friend of mine had a separation anxiety dog to.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:07 AM
Jul 2021

Big metal kennels couldn't keep her in. After my friend got another dog the first one calmed down when people left.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,838 posts)
37. The purer the chocolate and the more cocoa there is in it, the more toxic it is
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:58 AM
Jul 2021

Keep engine coolant away from them too. To a dog, it has a very sweet, sugary taste.

Lacing meat with engine coolant is the way a lot of neighbors kill dogs of people they don't like.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,487 posts)
45. WTAF. Chocolate cupcakes don't have milk chocolate in them, and chocolate is NEVER good
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jul 2021

for dogs. Good lord, is this irresponsible.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,487 posts)
21. I feel for you. About 8 years ago, we were living in a "war zone"
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:55 AM
Jul 2021

on the south side of Lansing, Michigan. The laws had been relaxed to the point where everything was completely out of control... and large "artillery shell" fireworks going off even after 2AM in the morning... Our small dog was so terrified, I could not get him to use the bathroom... and this was all before the actual 4th of July.

I am all for patriotism, fireworks, fun is fun... but it was too crazy. We actually called the police to complain, but officers informed us that they could do little about it without actually catching someone in the act. Meanwhile, our Vietnam vet friend down the street was also in PTSD hell with shellshock...

Luckily, the local government changed the laws about this which seemed to quiet things down a lot in subsequent years. Last fall I moved into a house on the far northern edge of town.... Tonight there were some fireworks going until midnight, but not too much and not too loud. I actually went outside to try to view some of them, but I could never see anything...

But eight years ago, it was like living in a war zone. It was like living amidst an artillery barrage... It was like World War I out there...
totally "All Quiet on the Western Front" territory (and it was anything but quiet. The shells going off were of a large and loud variety).

DemocraticPatriot

(4,487 posts)
22. Once piece of advice about calming dogs I came across was
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:58 AM
Jul 2021

to put their coats on them, it was supposed to calm them somewhat.


I can't say that it worked with our dog, but it is something to try.

Luckily in later years things got quiet, and he lost some of his hearing, lol so in his later years, he never heard anything.

Response to vercetti2021 (Original post)

Liberty Belle

(9,538 posts)
26. Try putting music on to help the dogs, something with a beat,
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:02 AM
Jul 2021

to help mask the fireworks sound. Happy music.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
27. It's finally quiet here. KCMO 2:00 am. Still a few off in the distance.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:15 AM
Jul 2021

Was the same last night.

Fireworks are illegal but it's not enforced. Lots of small towns sell them. Riverside is right down the road from me and there are fireworks tents everywhere.

I give my dogs gabepentin and trazadone . It helps a lot.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,487 posts)
32. Melatonin also might help
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:07 AM
Jul 2021

to help them sleep.

I gave it to my dog when he was in his last days... He had lost all of his vision and was very unsettled by that..

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
29. I use a sound machine for my animals.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:41 AM
Jul 2021

I start using it 3 days before and have it to full volume before peak noise time. I actually have 3 going in the house all to ocean sounds. It helps diffuse the vast amount of stress on my babies.

Too late now, I know. But, maybe next year it may help?

I'm sorry for their distress. ❤️

MissB

(15,812 posts)
31. It's been oddly quiet here
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 03:54 AM
Jul 2021

The County and City made the sale and use illegal this year, simply because it’s tinder-dry.

We had one series of fireworks on Thursday night, followed by an angry post on our neighborhood Facebook page. The response from the neighbors was overwhelmingly negative on the use of fireworks this year and it’s been quiet for the two nights since. I think someone had a chat with their kids.

I do expect we will hear some tonight- maybe not in the neighborhood but certainly from across the river. There are no public displays this year which I’ll miss but it’ll be nice to have a muted evening.

Our dogs aren’t that bothered by them. The youngest hasn’t noticed anything at all. Our other pup sat with us for a bit last year on a hill in Bozeman Montana, watching the fireworks all around. It wasn’t his favorite thing ever but he didn’t cower or freak out.

I have a big bin of fireworks in my basement, but I won’t even open a box of sparklers this year. It’s just too dry.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
33. I live near an annual professional fireworks display.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 04:14 AM
Jul 2021

I didn't even bother to simply walk outside to see them this year.

When I owned a cat years ago, and it was bothered by the loud noise, I had the bright idea to carry it outside so it could see the explosions in the sky that were causing it.

The cat indeed turned her head slightly to look up at the first outwardly-spreading streams of light after I took her outside, and then she immediately buried her claws into my chest!

That's when I rushed back inside, with continuous "ow, ow, ow" uttered by me, until she finally relaxed enough to retract her claws.

It was one of the dumber things I ever did.

Deminpenn

(15,292 posts)
39. A couple years ago, PA made fireworks legal
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:03 AM
Jul 2021

Before it was just sparklers, but we're close to Ohio where fireworks are legal and people bought the bigger shells there. Despite that, there wasn't much noise outside of municipal fireworks. Last year, though, one nearby home shot off fireworks from before dark until the middle of the night. Luckily for me they were across and down the road making it more annoying than anything else.

Renew Deal

(81,892 posts)
42. You're better served helping your dogs than confronting your neighbors.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 06:06 AM
Jul 2021

The “get off my lawn” routine won’t solve anything and may get you in trouble.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
48. We kind of like them. The wife likes to go out and watch them all
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:09 AM
Jul 2021

That said, at 10:00 they just stopped. I guess some people are still considerate.

Tonight will be something, that’s for sure.

Demsrule86

(68,758 posts)
73. I do too. One of our Poms is anxious so we give our Vet gave her some medicine that helps.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jul 2021

It is not a big deal.

SYFROYH

(34,185 posts)
49. I like it when the neighborhood goes off with fireworks
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:20 AM
Jul 2021


It’s feels and sounds celebratory.

Mostly it happens on New Years and July 4 plus or minus 2 days.

Now Juneteenth, too.

Sorry for the pet owners with scared animals, but at least it’s just a couple of days a year.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
54. It's not just pet owners.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jul 2021

Wildlife is deeply affected. Many mothers become terrified and abandon their babies. Deer, squirrels, etc. panic and run many times in front of cars. Birds fly frantically and hit walls.

Vets with PTSD can be severely anxious.

Is all of the destruction really worth a few stupid minutes of snap, crackle and pop?

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
56. According to one of my neighbors it's his God given
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:56 AM
Jul 2021

right to have guns and shoot off fireworks. Fortunately he doesn't live too close or I would have to kill him.

SYFROYH

(34,185 posts)
65. It's true that some with PTSD suffer.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jul 2021


But if there can be planned official fireworks for July 4th, sports games, and other holidays, I’m ok with individuals having some fun too.

Plus I’m convinced that some anti-fireworks sentiment is thinly veiled anti-Asian hatred.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
69. I'm fine with people having fun.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:32 AM
Jul 2021

But why should my right to a quiet evening at home in celebration be superseded by idiots in my neighborhood breaking the law? People have a right to have fun and enjoy themselves but that right ends when their enjoyment impedes others’ who have the same right to enjoyment. Same with idiots who play loud music all the time. Why should everyone else have to listen to their choice in music? It’s common courtesy to think about others.

I see no connection to anti-Asian sentiment in my area because it’s mostly old white men who are selling the fireworks.

We agree to disagree. Have a safe holiday.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
76. Common courtesy decides.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jul 2021

What one person chooses to do is fine as long as it doesn’t affect others in a negative way. Why is that so hard?

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #75)

Demsrule86

(68,758 posts)
74. Please...I like fireworks...and some of the responses on this thread...seems like a 'Get Off My Lawn
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jul 2021

sort of thing.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
55. It's gets that bad. All those explosions hour after hour
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:54 AM
Jul 2021

and trying to deal with terrified animals. It's awful.

Thete have been years when I would have been dangerous if I had had a gun.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
59. I don't want to kill these people
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:08 AM
Jul 2021

I just want to watch them blow their tiptoes off with the firecrackers. If you had dogs you would probably understand where I was coming from but I can tell you're not a pet owner. Besides weather can't be controlled. Fireworks can be outlawed which they are within the city limits.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
60. Feel for ya
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:12 AM
Jul 2021

One of our huskies tries to dig a hole through the corner of the wall during fireworks and is inconsolable. Environmental manipulations in our house and watching loud blow 'em up car crash kinda movies REALLY loud help.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
51. I've tried everything with my scaredy pup.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:34 AM
Jul 2021

Amazingly, after all the money I’ve spent on remedies of all types - I found Dramamine works like a dream. It’s an otc drug and safe for dogs.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
52. Interesting. I am glad something worked.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 08:47 AM
Jul 2021

The 4th has just turned into a nightmare for everyone but those setting off fireworks.

Elessar Zappa

(14,118 posts)
57. I give people a pass
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:01 AM
Jul 2021

around the 4th of July. What I can’t stand is when they’re still blowing them up two weeks after.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
77. Same, my wife and I spent last night on our porch with some beer, watching the free show
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jul 2021

Our dog doesn't care, our cats do but they're afraid of everything - including the tractor.

It's the random stuff on a Wednesday with no reason that annoys me

Shrek

(3,986 posts)
62. My (deceased) beagle used to love fireworks
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:22 AM
Jul 2021

He would lie on the deck and gaze in wonder at the sky.

But I know that's unusual. Sorry to hear your dogs are having a tough time.

CousinIT

(9,268 posts)
63. Idiots were doing that in my 'hood July 4th eve too (day before the 4th)
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 09:53 AM
Jul 2021

I can tolerate it for about 30 minutes on NYD or July 4th - but after that, it's just ridiculous. I have cats that manage to pretty much ignore it. But I'm usually trying to hear news or a TV show or movie or trying to read and it's just freaking annoying as hell. I hate inconsiderate people.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
66. Last night I put the ThunderShirt on my dog and he relaxed right away
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jul 2021

There were fireworks all over the neighborhood. Even taking him on a short walk was a disaster.

For past dogs I used meds from the vet. This year I bought the thundershirt - it was $45 which seems a little high, but he's a young dog and we will probably get a lot of use for it in the years to come.

Worked really well, and I expect to be using it every night in the upcoming week.

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
67. My biggest dog used to shake, but now he goes into his crate,
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jul 2021

which is covered by a sheet. My other dog doesn't mind as much.

I wish there was a way to muffle their ears to lower the noise level.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,071 posts)
68. Our county banned fireworks this year due to dry weather conditions
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:25 AM
Jul 2021

Which is a good thing. Last year, the neighbors hit my car with fireworks. To this day, I wonder if they did not do it on purpose. I try to hose down the property prior to the fourth. Did not need to do it this year.

GoCubsGo

(32,099 posts)
70. The same thing goes for my neighborhood, too.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 10:41 AM
Jul 2021

Not just on the 4th of July, but also during the period leading up to New Year's Day. Tonight will be even worse than last night. Unfortunately, this is all legal here, so not much ne can do about it. At least they stopped by bed time. I have no pets to be terrorized by it right now, but when I had cats, they hated it. I feel bad for the neighborhood wildlife. The noise and fumes do them no good, either.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
83. Did you call me a Karen?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:01 PM
Jul 2021

You fucking serious? Try having fucking dogs and talk to me about being a goddamn Karen then. Also shooting them off the 2nd and 3rd is annoying and just stupid

MissMillie

(38,597 posts)
80. So .. common courtesy goes out the window?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:30 PM
Jul 2021

Living near other people means keeping your noise to yourself. Don't care what day it is.

Sorry.

I have a dog that's going to piss all over the house tonight.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
81. Thank you.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

I’ve been having much the same conversation. It truly is common courtesy and that is the deciding factor. What one does to have fun is fine as long as it doesn’t negatively affect another.

Why is that so hard for some to understand?

Polybius

(15,517 posts)
87. So people have to suffer because dogs aren't smart enough to know fireworks won't hurt them?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jul 2021

I feel bad for you, but without any fireworks at all the 4th is ruined.

MissMillie

(38,597 posts)
88. Lived the better part of my life in a state where fireworks are ILLEGAL
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jul 2021

unless you have a license.


Was always able to find a local show if I wanted to see them that badly.


Don't feel deprived at all.

Polybius

(15,517 posts)
89. I don't do them myself
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

But I love watching the night, and nothing beats the smell of gunpower on the 4th Of July. Mmm.

Demsrule86

(68,758 posts)
101. I agree...so many holidays are ruined like Halloween...two hour window for Trick or Treat here.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:51 PM
Jul 2021

Parents can't always make it home in time. Just sucks. Turn off your lights if you don't want trick or treaters...

Demsrule86

(68,758 posts)
100. I have no problem with fireworks.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jul 2021

It is the fourth of July...I am glad our Republic has survived Trump and am happy for the celebrations...and no matter what there will be noise and annoyances living amongst people. I think people are just constantly annoyed at something. I say live and let live.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
93. Yes? And?
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jul 2021

These things were going off dangerously close to my townhouse last night, but I guess it would be some consolation knowing they were in celebration of freedom and love of country.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
82. Enjoy America's annual Celebration of Victorious War with Simulated Gunfire
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jul 2021

We have Veteran's Day for those who served and came home.

Memorial Day for those who didn't come home.

And this is for those who remained behind and cheered.

Polybius

(15,517 posts)
86. While all of the dogs are hiding under the bed...
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jul 2021

My cat is at the window acting like a champ without a fear in sight. Happy Independence Day folks!

Polybius

(15,517 posts)
90. Saw this meme yesterday
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:26 PM
Jul 2021

While I hate the use of the "b" word (even though technically it means dog), the meme is nonetheless hilarious.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
92. Don't get me started.
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

It is just batshit crazy around here this year. Things quieted down around 11 last night, then around midnight, one asshole got things going again. Sounded like fucking bombs going off.

My poor cat is freaked out.

Calling the cops won’t fix a damn thing, unfortunately.

Bettie

(16,139 posts)
99. We've had many pets over the years
Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jul 2021

we had one dog who hated fireworks, if he was home alone, he would be destructive, but if we stayed with him and sat on the couch with him, he was fine. He took his cues from us...he was a dog we learned a lot from, in terms of how to handle animals. He was challenging and frustrating and having dog companions was made much easier by the lessons we learned from him.

Now we make sure we stay nearby and are calm and attentive. As long as we don't become agitated, the dogs stick close and are calm.

When they have to go out, we take them into the yard and stay next to them while they do their thing and then go back inside and they hang really close.

We must have weird dogs though, because aside from barking by our Pyr mix (who, honestly, barks at everything, from squirrels to leaves), they are good. Small dog trembles at bit until we pull him close next to us, and cats swarm over to be "comforted", which I think is cat code for "why are the dogs getting extra attention, we want love too!".

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