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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:16 PM Jul 2021

Man Involved in Massachusetts Standoff Tells Court He's 'Foreign National,' Can't Be Charged

A man involved in an armed standoff with police on an interstate highway in Massachusetts last week refused a defense attorney and told a court he can't be charged because he's a "foreign national," the Associated Press reported.

Quinn Cumberlander, a 40-year old from Pawtucket, Rhode Island, is one of 11 people facing charges in connection with the standoff that lasted multiple hours on Interstate 95 in Wakefield, the Associated Press reported.

A state trooper found the suspects—wearing body armor and armed with firearms that they weren't licensed to carry in the state—refueling on the side of the highway Saturday morning. The standoff began when some of the men fled into nearby woods.

The men are facing charges that include unlawful possession of a firearm and ammunition and the use of body armor in commission of a crime. A judge in Malden District Court in Medford, Massachusetts, ruled that Cumberlander be held without bail in anticipation of a Friday hearing in which the court will rule whether or not he is dangerous.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-involved-in-massachusetts-standoff-tells-court-hes-foreign-national-cant-be-charged/ar-AALQud2

That's what you think.

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Man Involved in Massachusetts Standoff Tells Court He's 'Foreign National,' Can't Be Charged (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
GITMO LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #1
Ah...another "sovereign" citizen! Oh he can be, and he will be, charged! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2021 #2
Does he have diplomatic immunity? dawg day Jul 2021 #3
Foreign diplomats aren't charged edhopper Jul 2021 #4
Sounds like Mo Brooks. . . .. Lovie777 Jul 2021 #5
Left or Right LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #6
Does it really matter? SharonClark Jul 2021 #10
That has nothing to do with the issue. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #18
Here, read this... Effete Snob Jul 2021 #20
Most "sovereign citizens" are white. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #23
Two thoughts on "use of body armor in the commission of a crime". What does...... EarnestPutz Jul 2021 #7
That is a state charge in Massachusetts. bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #15
That is a state charge in Massachusetts. bottomofthehill Jul 2021 #16
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you can believe whatever the fuck you like, RockRaven Jul 2021 #8
So he is Rebl2 Jul 2021 #9
So, he's an illegal immigrant? Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #11
THAT'S MY TICKET !!! Thanks. I will form my own foreign nation: Hotdogia. 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #12
We'll, he is from Pawtucket.... Bristlecone Jul 2021 #13
That and Nantucket are featured in limericks often Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #14
Is this the same Kingdom of the More Moorish Moors group, or Politicub Jul 2021 #17
So, if a visiting Russian decides to shoot Lt. Othello in the foot DFW Jul 2021 #19
One of these assholes was wearing a fez and a swastika necklace BradAllison Jul 2021 #21
Well thanks for making RI look ridiculous Quinn... Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #22
He might as well claim hes BGBD Jul 2021 #24
Send him to Morroco and revoke his American citizenship. LiberalFighter Jul 2021 #25

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
4. Foreign diplomats aren't charged
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:22 PM
Jul 2021

Foreign nationals are charged all the time. What an idiot.

13% of the prison population are undocumented immigrants, in other words foreign nationals.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
20. Here, read this...
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 10:09 PM
Jul 2021

They are a splinter of this cluster:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America

Competing factions developed among the congregations and leaders, especially after the death of the charismatic Ali. Three independent organizations developed from this ferment. The founding of the Nation of Islam by Wallace Fard Muhammad in 1930 also created competition for members.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
23. Most "sovereign citizens" are white.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jul 2021

This is one of the few, more recent, splinter groups which are not.

They are closer to libertarians than anything else.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
7. Two thoughts on "use of body armor in the commission of a crime". What does......
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:26 PM
Jul 2021

the NRA have to say about such a law and, if there is a similar Federal law, how does it affect the cos-play idiots who worn body armor as they attacked the Capitol?

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
8. I've said it before and I'll say it again: you can believe whatever the fuck you like,
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:28 PM
Jul 2021

but your opinion doesn't matter. The judge/jury's opinion is what matters. And they aren't going to believe that you can't be charged.

Rebl2

(13,498 posts)
9. So he is
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:42 PM
Jul 2021

a foreign national and committed a crime. Sorry buddy but you can be charged with crimes just like US citizens can be charged in foreign countries if they commit crimes. Happens all the time.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
12. THAT'S MY TICKET !!! Thanks. I will form my own foreign nation: Hotdogia.
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 08:45 PM
Jul 2021

Then I will appoint diplomats and issue certificates to my dips so they can't be charged in any court.

Diplomatic appointments will be available at $10k for appointments to shithole countries.


$100 k for ambassadorships to top tier countries.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
19. So, if a visiting Russian decides to shoot Lt. Othello in the foot
Tue Jul 6, 2021, 09:30 PM
Jul 2021

He can‘t be charged, since he is a foreign national?

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