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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:52 PM Jul 2021

After 15 years and $500m, the US Navy decides it doesn't need shipboard railguns after all

After more than 15 years of R&D, and half a billion dollars of funding, the United States Navy has decided to give up on the prospect of mounting enormous railguns on its ships. For the moment, at least.

The project was intended to produce a mighty weapon which could fire projectiles at Mach 7 at targets over 100 miles (161km) away, using electromagnets rather than chemical reactions to propel them. But fresh from deliberately creating a 3.9-magnitude earthquake 100 miles (161km) off the coast of Florida to rattle the windows on its latest aircraft carrier, the Navy has decided it can no longer spare the money for continued research.

"Given fiscal constraints, combat system integration challenges and the prospective technology maturation of other weapon concepts, the Navy decided to pause research and development of the Electromagnetic Railgun [EMRG] at the end of 2021," it said.

Despite producing a weapon that undoubtedly worked to some extent, the programme had been plagued with technological and practical difficulties (see video below).

https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/07/us_navy_railguns/

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After 15 years and $500m, the US Navy decides it doesn't need shipboard railguns after all (Original Post) Klaralven Jul 2021 OP
I think they need to turn this over to Space Force for their starships and sh*t. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #1
Our Space Force Starships already have them, how else do you think Photon Torpedoes are propelled? Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2021 #2
The MCRN Donnager had TWO of them... Hugin Jul 2021 #12
Well, bureaucracy is a beast UTUSN Jul 2021 #3
That's nothing. Take a peek at the F-35 fighter plane cluster. Trillion dollar+ boondoggle. marble falls Jul 2021 #4
MIC must be fed malaise Jul 2021 #9
The US has the wherewithal to do immense difference for the good. All we do is make fewer ... marble falls Jul 2021 #10
Indeed malaise Jul 2021 #11
Energy weapons simply don't make sense without a better power source ansible Jul 2021 #5
I'm okay with this GregariousGroundhog Jul 2021 #6
Aircraft carriers themselves are rather useless these days... hunter Jul 2021 #7
After the next major war, there won't be a country with an intact economy to launch a Marshall Plan Klaralven Jul 2021 #8
Carrier Battle Groups are one of the few things that make sense. DVRacer Jul 2021 #15
It's difficult to imagine a more expensive means of delivering humanitarian aid. hunter Jul 2021 #18
Call Israel and get some Space Lasers. PCIntern Jul 2021 #13
I'm sure there are plenty of domestic police departments that would be interested. Paladin Jul 2021 #14
I'm disappointed, I'd rather see money spent new tech R&D Amishman Jul 2021 #16
Its cool technology, but funding priorities happen SYFROYH Jul 2021 #17
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Our Space Force Starships already have them, how else do you think Photon Torpedoes are propelled?
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:23 PM
Jul 2021

Duh ...

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
4. That's nothing. Take a peek at the F-35 fighter plane cluster. Trillion dollar+ boondoggle.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:52 PM
Jul 2021

Not content with F-35 debacle, the Navy is now working on ...
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Not content with F-35 debacle, the Navy is now working on a brand new fighter jet. The Defense Department may not have finished working out all the kinks in the ultra-expensive and perpetually ...


Ronald Reagan made this baby.

marble falls

(57,080 posts)
10. The US has the wherewithal to do immense difference for the good. All we do is make fewer ...
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 08:11 AM
Jul 2021

... and fewer people richer and richer.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
5. Energy weapons simply don't make sense without a better power source
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:57 PM
Jul 2021

Assuming humanity doesn't wipe itself out soon, we're gonna be using primitive chemical-based projectile weapons for a very, very long time.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,521 posts)
6. I'm okay with this
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:06 AM
Jul 2021

I'm okay if the Pentagon wants to spend a couple billion dollars a year on research and development. Some things will pan out and other things will not, that's the way things go.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
7. Aircraft carriers themselves are rather useless these days...
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:22 AM
Jul 2021

... the twenty first century version of the Maginot Line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_Line

In any case we now live in a world with a single unified economy that's extremely brittle.

We've gone beyond MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction by atomic weapons, into a place where even minor disturbances can take down governments and kill millions of people.

There can be no "superpowers" in this environment.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
8. After the next major war, there won't be a country with an intact economy to launch a Marshall Plan
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 08:00 AM
Jul 2021

Economies of the combatants will have to do a "cold restart" without help from the outside.

I don't think that the politicians realize the danger yet. It hasn't seemed to modify foreign policy thinking.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
15. Carrier Battle Groups are one of the few things that make sense.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 09:51 AM
Jul 2021

If you consider what they are truly capable of not just making war. From peace keeping to humanitarian missions our ability to to have an entire city with hospitals and air traffic control move in at a few days notice. The galley can produce 20,000 hot meals three times a day from the carrier alone include all ships in the battle group 50,000. The search and rescue function has shown itself after tsunamis and hurricanes with a runway for relief supplies after earthquakes. After Andrew a single carrier managed most all air traffic to south Florida for nearly two months.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
18. It's difficult to imagine a more expensive means of delivering humanitarian aid.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jul 2021

Maybe a revival of the Space Shuttle? You could deliver 30,000 pounds of rice and beans to anyplace in the world that had a 7,500 foot runway and TACAN or DME support.

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Wouldn't that be exciting!

5, 4, 3, 2, 1, Thunderbirds Are Go!



I'm fascinated by the technology of aircraft carriers and fighter aircraft, and I harbor no ill will to their crews, but they are no defense against the existential threats of the 21st century.

Technology developed for aircraft carriers, specifically nuclear power, and recently the conversion of oceanic carbon dioxide into fuels, are possibly the means by which we will quit fossil fuels entirely.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
14. I'm sure there are plenty of domestic police departments that would be interested.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 09:11 AM
Jul 2021

Wish I was kidding, but of course I'm completely serious.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
16. I'm disappointed, I'd rather see money spent new tech R&D
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:13 AM
Jul 2021

That $500 million is the cost of five F35 jets. I'd rather it be spent on groundbreaking R&D than on adding a few more identical toys to the military's already overstuffed toy box.

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