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If you call a Trumper a "Nazi," how inaccurate is that? (Original Post) Patterson Jul 2021 OP
"Asshole" works, too. TreasonousBastard Jul 2021 #1
Dipshits work as well vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #2
"Nazi" would mean they were an adherent to the German Fascist movement.... TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #3
Agreed, it's not Naziism. Fascism in it's traditional sense isn't quite right either Amishman Jul 2021 #11
Traitor works too EYESORE 9001 Jul 2021 #4
Appropriate response I'd say ... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2021 #5
I think it's pretty accurate. Aristus Jul 2021 #6
"Nazi" describes a specific type of fascist. MineralMan Jul 2021 #7
F'n traitor works for me. I try not to use words that they may not understand. niyad Jul 2021 #8
Trump is not a Nazi, nazis were specific to a time and place in history. Thomas Hurt Jul 2021 #9
I call them neo-fascists Poiuyt Jul 2021 #10
+1 leftstreet Jul 2021 #14
I think it is appropriate. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #12
Me, too. Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 #13
If you give aid and comfort to a Nazi, YOU ARE A NAZI krawhitham Jul 2021 #15
Not Totally Accurate ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #16
Many are BGBD Jul 2021 #17

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
3. "Nazi" would mean they were an adherent to the German Fascist movement....
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jul 2021

If they were sporting swastikas or wearing t-shirts saying, "6 million wasn't enough", then chances are they are Nazi's. But Fascist is a more accurate term as it fits Trumpism to a T.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
11. Agreed, it's not Naziism. Fascism in it's traditional sense isn't quite right either
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jul 2021

Trumpism doesn't fit any of the old definitions.

I'd say the best description is palingenetic ultranationalism with a capitalist emphasis

EYESORE 9001

(26,012 posts)
4. Traitor works too
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:16 AM
Jul 2021

Heard an anecdote about a veteran wearing a service-related hat who encountered a MAGAt wearing a red rump hat.

MAGAt: Thank you for your service.

Veteran: Fuck off, traitor.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,828 posts)
5. Appropriate response I'd say ...
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:20 AM
Jul 2021

Have a Trumper next door to me. I ignore him.

Wasting intelligence over a Trumper is futile.

Aristus

(66,481 posts)
6. I think it's pretty accurate.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:21 AM
Jul 2021

I think, looking back on the history of the Nazis in Germany, that we get confused by the flashy uniforms, the neckties, the shiny boots, the marching, and the discipline. For all of that, the Nazis were nothing more than squalid street thugs. The ranks were bulging with losers, criminals, pimps, misfits, the undereducated, and so on. The same is absolutely true for TFG's followers.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
7. "Nazi" describes a specific type of fascist.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jul 2021

Just as all squares are rectangles, but all rectangles are not squares.

Fascism is a generic word. Nazi is a specific name for one group of fascists.

So, it is inaccurate from the very start.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
9. Trump is not a Nazi, nazis were specific to a time and place in history.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:15 AM
Jul 2021

Modern fascists who call themselves neo-nazis are not really nazis. Trump isn't Hitler, he isn't like Hitler. He isn't a nazi.

Trump is not a fascist from the last century he is a modern fascist, an American fascist.

IMO, Trump is a christofascist. Christian fascism. Trump isn't really christian but he has no problem using fundie Christians to support his fascist agenda and wannabe dictatorship. I don't think that the fundie leadership think Trump is a christian, but they have no problem using him to support their goal of an American Christian Theocracy.

Poiuyt

(18,131 posts)
10. I call them neo-fascists
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jul 2021

They're not exactly like Mussolini, but they certainly follow his philosophy.

ProfessorGAC

(65,297 posts)
16. Not Totally Accurate
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jul 2021

But, who cares?
It's a gut punch against those who've been gut punching for 50+ years.
Eliciting a visceral reaction is more important that sociopolitical accuracy.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
17. Many are
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 02:22 PM
Jul 2021

Right wing populists.... which is about an hour of "doing my own research" away from sounding a lot like Richard Spencer....who is certainly a neo-nazi.

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