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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:17 AM Jul 2021

Democrats, heed the warnings: 18 months to a Republican Congress -- unless you fight

Last edited Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:05 AM - Edit history (1)

A GOP win in 2022 isn't inevitable. But it's extremely likely — unless Democrats act boldly, and right now

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/10/democrats-heed-the-warnings-18-months-to-a-republican-congress--unless-you-fight/

Since the Civil War, midterm elections have enabled the president's party to gain ground in the House of Representatives only three times, and those gains were in single digits. The last few midterms have been typical: In 2006, with Republican George W. Bush in the White House, his party lost 31 House seats. Under Democrat Barack Obama, his party lost 63 seats in 2010 and then 13 in 2014. Under Donald Trump, in 2018, Republicans lost 41 seats. Overall, since World War II, losses by the president's party have averaged 27 seats in the House.

Next year, if Republicans gain just five House seats, Rep. Kevin McCarthy or some other right-wing ideologue will become speaker of the House, giving the GOP control over all committees and legislation. In the Senate, where the historic midterm pattern has been similar, a Republican gain of just one seat will reinstall Mitch McConnell as Senate majority leader.

To prevent such disastrous results, Democrats would need to replicate what happened the last time the president's party didn't lose House or Senate seats in a midterm election — two years after Bush entered the White House. The odds are steeply against it, as elections analyst Nathaniel Rakich points out: "Bush was very popular in 2002 in the aftermath of 9/11. According to a retrospective FiveThirtyEight average of polls at the time, he had a 62 percent approval rating and 29 percent disapproval rating on Election Day 2002. And in this era of polarization — where presidential approval ratings are stuck in a very narrow band — it's hard to imagine [President] Biden ever reaching that level of popularity."

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With new census data, the once-in-a-decade chance to redistrict means that Republican-dominated state legislatures can do maximal gerrymandering. "Because Democrats fell short of their 2020 expectations in state legislative races," FiveThirtyEight politics reporter Alex Samuels says, "Republicans have the opportunity to redraw congressional maps that are much more clearly in their favor." All this year, awaiting census figures to manipulate, Republican legislatures have been enacting outrageous new voter-suppression laws, many of the sort recently greenlit by the Supreme Court and calculated to destroy voting rights.

In the face of impending election disasters in 2022 and beyond, denial might be a natural coping mechanism, but it only makes matters worse. Reality should now spur a sustained all-out effort — in courts, stated legislatures, Congress and public venues — to safeguard as many democratic processes as possible for next year's elections, while organizing against the dozens of major voter-suppression tactics of recent years.

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Democrats, heed the warnings: 18 months to a Republican Congress -- unless you fight (Original Post) smirkymonkey Jul 2021 OP
Voter registration is as critical this election as it was last election, and more. marble falls Jul 2021 #1
Without voting rights legislation, registration won't matter. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #2
If a legislature overturns a win Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #5
What rulings by this Court edhopper Jul 2021 #6
Yep WHITT Jul 2021 #9
You are right...as was shown in the 2020 election PortTack Jul 2021 #11
You guarantee it? After SCOTUS dismantled the rest of the voting rights act this past week? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #13
They're all about suppression. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #14
You seem supremely confident that traditional paradigms will continue to prevail Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #17
I'm confident that an illegitimately overturned election will Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #18
Bush v Gore edhopper Jul 2021 #24
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #8
If I were Chuck Schumer, gab13by13 Jul 2021 #3
I really doubt we'll lose the Senate Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #4
Voters seem to have no problem edhopper Jul 2021 #7
actually there is little evidence of that dsc Jul 2021 #10
I'd have to do reseach edhopper Jul 2021 #23
My state (NC) is one where Biden did very slightly better in terms of margin dsc Jul 2021 #25
Thanks for the edhopper Jul 2021 #26
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jul 2021 #12
Warnock's seat is gone without voting rights, probably Kelly's too Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #15
So we're fucked then? Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #16
We're fucked if we continue to focus on November 2022 instead of RIGHT NOW Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #20
k&r BSdetect Jul 2021 #19
Unless Manchin and Sinema agree to end the filibuster, Republicans Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #21
All That's Needed Right Now WHITT Jul 2021 #27
Well, as long as we keep referring to the hadEnuf Jul 2021 #22

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
2. Without voting rights legislation, registration won't matter.
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 09:45 AM
Jul 2021

When state legislatures can overturn results they don’t like, registration is useless.

Also, gerrymandering alone, possibly just in FL districts, will cause Dems to lose their majorities. That’s why HR1, with its anti-gerrymandering laws, is so critical.

The fight is NOW, not 2022. Voting rights must be passed in the next 90 days, THEN registration drives will make sense.

To find voting rights events and activities in your area, go to:

Indivisible.org

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
5. If a legislature overturns a win
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:17 AM
Jul 2021

I guarantee you the courts will rule against them, including our conservative Supreme Court.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
6. What rulings by this Court
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jul 2021

makes you think they won't uphold all Republican efforts to steal elections.

If you are relying on the Roberts Court, you will be disappointed.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
9. Yep
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

Alito the fascist made up 5 "rules" out of thin air, with no basis in law or the constitution, and based his ruling against the Arizona voter matters on the issue of FRAUDULANT VOTING, which is astronomically non-existent.

You are more likely to get struck by lightning in the voting stall, TWICE, than for there to be in-person voter fraud.

PortTack

(32,767 posts)
11. You are right...as was shown in the 2020 election
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:58 AM
Jul 2021

For those that doubt that, read how senators and congress members are elected

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
13. You guarantee it? After SCOTUS dismantled the rest of the voting rights act this past week?
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jul 2021

Instead of wagering on the future of democracy, why not pass laws to prevent legislatures from overturning elections in the first place?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
17. You seem supremely confident that traditional paradigms will continue to prevail
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jul 2021

I do not share your confidence.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. +1000
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:27 AM
Jul 2021

I do not trust these people at all. They play dirty and they will do whatever they can to steal upcoming elections.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
3. If I were Chuck Schumer,
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jul 2021

I would start yesterday, breaking up S1 and bringing those bills up for a vote, such as make election day a national holiday, allow same day registration, etc. etc. etc. Keep bringing up no brainer election bills and when Republicans vote every damn one of them down, then go to Manchin and Sinema and tell them, not ask them, tell them I am bringing up a bill to carve out an exception for the filibuster for election based bills and I expect you to vote with us.

Wouldn't Sheldon Whitehouse make a great majority leader some day?

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
4. I really doubt we'll lose the Senate
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:16 AM
Jul 2021

unless Biden suddenly loses popularity. Remember Biden has close to a 60% approval rating and that should trickle down into the down ticket races. The House will be harder to keep but it’s possible if we do all we can to gotv.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
7. Voters seem to have no problem
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:24 AM
Jul 2021

supporting Biden and then voting for Repug Senators.
Cause they are incapable of thinking.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
10. actually there is little evidence of that
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:57 AM
Jul 2021

the only GOP senator who one a state that Biden won was Collins.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
23. I'd have to do reseach
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jul 2021

which I am too lazy to do, but I seem to remember a few States that Biden barely lost, while the GOP Senator had an easy victory.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
25. My state (NC) is one where Biden did very slightly better in terms of margin
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

than Cunningham did. 1.34% loss vs 1.75% but Trump got the most votes of any of the four candidates. So Cunningham didn't do worse because more people voted for Tillis but because fewer people voted for him. It should be noted Biden actually got more votes than Tillis did. In other words, it isn't that people voted for Biden and the GOP senate candidate but because more people voted for President than Senate and the drop off of Democrats was worse than that of the GOP. It should also be noted that third party candidates did way better in the senate race than the Presidential one.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
15. Warnock's seat is gone without voting rights, probably Kelly's too
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jul 2021

The GA legislature will refuse to certify Warnock’s win, and Kemp will appoint a Republican to replace him. AZ will likely do the same with Kelly. NV and NH are vulnerable too.

So, what two, or possibly four, other seats will Dems pick up to keep their majority? OH? Republicans in legislature and governor. PA? Maybe, still GOP majority in legislature. FL? Odds are against that too.

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
16. So we're fucked then?
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jul 2021

Sorry, regardless of laws I’ll do all I can for Democrats to win. I agree with you that these laws are a big problem. But it’s not insurmountable.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
20. We're fucked if we continue to focus on November 2022 instead of RIGHT NOW
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jul 2021

Numerous organizations are planning direct action in the streets over the next few weeks- that’s where our time, energy and resources should be devoted, not some far off naive fantasy of November 2022 being just like any other election.

To find out what you can do to save democracy, go to:

Indivisible.org

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
21. Unless Manchin and Sinema agree to end the filibuster, Republicans
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jul 2021

will take the House and Senate through voter suppression tactics.

Voting rights MUST be protected by federal law.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
27. All That's Needed Right Now
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 02:22 AM
Jul 2021

is a small carve-out of the filibuster for expanding voting rights, just as Moscow Mitch did a carve-out for supreme court justices.

hadEnuf

(2,190 posts)
22. Well, as long as we keep referring to the
Sun Jul 11, 2021, 12:33 PM
Jul 2021

Marquis of Queensbury boxing rules to fight against groin kicking, hair pulling, back stabbing terrorists we will continue to scratch our knotted heads and wonder why we lose.

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