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anti vax nurse dies from covid (Original Post) rdking647 Jul 2021 OP
Her Fucking Job Was To Save People's Lives SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #1
Not sure Piasladic Jul 2021 #49
What? rockfordfile Jul 2021 #60
Not at all Piasladic Jul 2021 #61
she could've made a difference dirtyvu Jul 2021 #64
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2021 #67
From the article: zuul Jul 2021 #2
"contagious laugh and smile" and COVID. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #12
"Contagious laugh"? Was that intended as deliberate irony? Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #13
I dunno. LisaL Jul 2021 #29
Which she should understand if she's taken basic biology. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #37
Even I understand that much, wnylib Jul 2021 #48
It is messenger rna. A nurse was this stupid?? I wondered how many people she infected, niyad Jul 2021 #44
Vax for healthcare workers should be compulsory. It would be best for all. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #3
In France it just has become compulsory. And a good thing too. GoneOffShore Jul 2021 #62
The virus fixes stupid jpak Jul 2021 #4
Yep underpants Jul 2021 #17
Betterthat she die than her poisoning someone else or someone else's kids Fullduplexxx Jul 2021 #5
She Likely Did Poison Others SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #23
Maybe proofread your post? Treefrog Jul 2021 #6
This is the OTHER reason she should not have been unvaxed in an ER. Hortensis Jul 2021 #7
Actually, I hope that if anyone that she cared for got infected.... TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #9
And to hospitals and other medical facilities. Agree. Hortensis Jul 2021 #18
to my knowledge there have been no successful infection suits yet fescuerescue Jul 2021 #57
True TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #58
Her Family? SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #24
Considering she was the one refusing to get vaccinated, the very idea is absurd. LisaL Jul 2021 #27
The notion that any degree of blame in an employee negates all liability Hortensis Jul 2021 #34
If I recall from the documentary, "Hot Coffee" correctly, she was not driving, her nephew niyad Jul 2021 #46
She had been healthy until then, Ilsa Jul 2021 #56
She lived to be 91, the jury awarded her 2.8 mil after she was burned by the hot coffee at 79. Mosby Jul 2021 #65
The judge reduced the award to 680,000, and it was reduced further still in secret niyad Jul 2021 #66
An anti-vax nurse could be the worst depending on her motivation. I'd give her a little more brewens Jul 2021 #8
Without Knowing For Certain SoCalDavidS Jul 2021 #26
I don't think your info is up to date. LisaL Jul 2021 #28
Another one bites the dust. This is good news for her patients at least. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #10
Only for the patients of hers that didn't succumb to the virus transmitted by her contagious laugh. erronis Jul 2021 #35
if it wasnt for the risk of new variants i wouldnt care if all the anti vaxxers got sick and died. rdking647 Jul 2021 #11
It's at least a silver lining. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #39
Cov-idiot UpInArms Jul 2021 #14
crooks and liars has her age as 23 stillcool Jul 2021 #15
So much for young people not dying of covid. wnylib Jul 2021 #50
She was 24 Celerity Jul 2021 #69
I do not know how many times I have to keep saying this but I will repeat as long as I have to: Initech Jul 2021 #16
Less CO2 emissions. roamer65 Jul 2021 #19
Yup! Good way to put it. Lucky Luciano Jul 2021 #30
I got no fucks to give Horse with no Name Jul 2021 #20
She played Russian Roulette...she lost. StarryNite Jul 2021 #21
Someone who should have never been a nurse iemanja Jul 2021 #22
As An RN, I've Seen A Number Of Nurses... GB_RN Jul 2021 #41
Wonder how many people she's taking with her. Vinca Jul 2021 #25
+1 area51 Jul 2021 #31
But the important thing is did she give credit to tRump for the vaccine she refused to take? Blue Owl Jul 2021 #32
If she passed biology, it may have been with a C-. NNadir Jul 2021 #33
I'm sure the aced her exams on Conspiracy Theories! And the one on Owning The Libs! erronis Jul 2021 #36
This Is Making The Rounds... GB_RN Jul 2021 #45
She looks very young IronLionZion Jul 2021 #38
23 according to other posts in the thread. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #40
Doesn't bode well for unvaccinated young people IronLionZion Jul 2021 #42
24 Celerity Jul 2021 #71
fuck. all republicans. period. not one atom of sympathy. NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #43
I am a vaccinated retired nurse Bmoboy Jul 2021 #47
Jumping the gun here MoreToTheStory Jul 2021 #51
Her cause of death is covid from what has been widely reported. LisaL Jul 2021 #53
Heart issue are all the more reason to get the vaccine. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #55
"Crucify?" A bit dramatic. And are you saying that Covid had nothing to do with her death? catbyte Jul 2021 #59
There is a difference between advocating no one get the vx and being 1 of those uppityperson Jul 2021 #63
All healthcare workers should either be vaccinated or fired. n/t Yavin4 Jul 2021 #52
and trump adds one more to the score board Shellback Squid Jul 2021 #54
A nurse told me half the hospital nurses refused vax lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #68
Natural selection at work Deminpenn Jul 2021 #70

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. Her Fucking Job Was To Save People's Lives
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jul 2021

She couldn't even save her own, or her parents.

I'm sure if she was still around to watch them suffer and die, she'd say something profound about how mistaken she had been.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
49. Not sure
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:43 PM
Jul 2021

maybe she's one of those that will say she was fine until the other nurses decided to make her sick.

I do not understand how so many health care workers can be so against a life-saving vaccine.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
61. Not at all
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 03:47 AM
Jul 2021

I just meant that anti-vax people are nuts, and who knows what they'll say...even as they die from Covid.

dirtyvu

(1 post)
64. she could've made a difference
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:35 AM
Jul 2021

actually, she could've saved herself and her parents if she got vaccinated.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
2. From the article:
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jul 2021

July 12, 2021

Olivia Guidry, a registered nurse in the emergency department at Ochsner Lafayette General, died Saturday after being hospitalized for the coronavirus in the intensive care unit, reported The Advocate.

"Today is a sad day for my ER family and I," her colleague Nick Berthelot posted on Facebook. "Your contagious laugh and smile will truly be missed Liv. Until we meet again sweet girl."

Coronavirus deaths have decreased dramatically in Louisiana since last year, but the state has seen a recent increase that experts blame on its low vaccination rate of 36 percent, compared with about 50 percent nationally, and Guidry questioned their safety on her own social media account.

"This vaccine has been released using recombinant DNA technology faster than any vaccine in the world," Guidry posted on July 26, 2020. "It manipulates your DNA at the tiniest molecular level. Do. Not. Get. It. It's not safe."

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. "contagious laugh and smile" and COVID.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

She transmitted the disease to at least two others. Violated professional ethics.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
13. "Contagious laugh"? Was that intended as deliberate irony?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:41 PM
Jul 2021

And why do so many nurses not learn a damn thing from the prerequisite courses in microbiology and A&P that they're required to take?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
29. I dunno.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:15 PM
Jul 2021

mRNA vaccines use RNA technology, not recombinant DNA technology.
They also don't alter your DNA at the molecular level.

wnylib

(21,446 posts)
48. Even I understand that much,
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:38 PM
Jul 2021

and I'm not a nurse. I've only had some high school and college biology. A lot of developments in biology have occurred since then, but my courses gave me a basic enough understanding to follow current developments and how the mRNA vaccines work.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
44. It is messenger rna. A nurse was this stupid?? I wondered how many people she infected,
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:13 PM
Jul 2021

or persuaded not to get the vaccine. And I wonder if the person who wrote that message is one of them.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
23. She Likely Did Poison Others
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jul 2021

Starting with her parents, who may now die as a result. Of course, they weren't vaccinated either, so the apple does not fall too far from the tree.

No loss.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. This is the OTHER reason she should not have been unvaxed in an ER.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jul 2021

It's a high-risk environment and no place for those who won't protect themselves, and others.

Frankly, I hope her family, union, whatever, sues the hospital, which failed its duty to keep employees safe. NO excuse.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
9. Actually, I hope that if anyone that she cared for got infected....
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:34 PM
Jul 2021

That they sue the estate of the deceased as well as the hospital. Taking the house will send a message to unvaccinated nurses.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
57. to my knowledge there have been no successful infection suits yet
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jul 2021

Trying to prove that a certain person infected another certain person is pretty difficult.

Even STD lawsuits, which have a FAR FAR FAR narrower transmission window are rare and difficult. (but not unheard of)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/sexually-transmitted-diseases-stds-lawsuits.html

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
58. True
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jul 2021

When you have widespread infections, it can be hard to prove unless you have isolates that can be genetically sequenced.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
24. Her Family?
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:07 PM
Jul 2021

Her family are just as anti-vax as she was, so it seems ridiculous they could now place blame on the hospital. Not saying they won't, but it would be ridiculous.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. The notion that any degree of blame in an employee negates all liability
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:47 PM
Jul 2021

in a business is a wired-in attitude of a lot of our conservative friends.

I remember the now-ancient McDonald's suit at a time when near-boiling drive-through coffee caused many injuries. The nationally famous case was when a cup spilled into a woman driver's groin and legs, causing third-degree burns, agonizing pain, and extensive burn-unit stays.

In that era cars did not routinely come with built-in cup holders, and most customers drove off with the cups in their hands. I could not get a Georgia friend to agree that, because McDonalds knew its coffee was dangerous and had caused severe injuries to many people, the company was knowingly selling an unsafe product and was responsible for the injuries -- even if the customers who innocently purchased it were also responsible.

My friend couldn't get it. Either-or. And it was the purchaser, 100%.

My best guess was that that attitude comes from the Bible. God consigns flawed and weak people who sin to eternity in hell, 100% liability on the "customers" heads without excuse, and the beyond-harsh consequences accepted as entirely appropriate. (The alternative would be to criticize god, and McDonalds coffee was nothing to risking the fires of hell.)

Now me, I don't deal people who are to blame a "blame-free" card if someone (usually lower on the socioeconomic pole) is also.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
46. If I recall from the documentary, "Hot Coffee" correctly, she was not driving, her nephew
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:26 PM
Jul 2021

was. And they were not in motion, they were parked. The cup almost exploded on this poor woman. The pictures of the burns were appalling. All she was asking for was for the company to pay her medical bills. Instead, she became the victim of a reichwing smear campaign.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
56. She had been healthy until then,
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 11:01 PM
Jul 2021

and it was obvious that the incident hastened an early death.

It was a wonderfully done documentary.

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
65. She lived to be 91, the jury awarded her 2.8 mil after she was burned by the hot coffee at 79.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jul 2021

The fallout from the lawsuit is that McDonald's lowered the temp of the coffee.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
66. The judge reduced the award to 680,000, and it was reduced further still in secret
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:18 AM
Jul 2021

negotiations between mcd and Ms. Liebeck. Please do not repeat inaccurate and incomplete information.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
8. An anti-vax nurse could be the worst depending on her motivation. I'd give her a little more
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jul 2021

slack if she was a long time anti-vaxer, not a FG follower only anti these vaccines.

If she died from it, what chance do her parents have? Of course one or both of them may have been vaccinated. Almost all other nurses would have been vaccinated and tried to have gotten their parents vaccinated too. Too bad about the parents, unless they were COVID denying FG followers. Then as far as I'm concerned, good riddance. If enough of them die, we may have a better chance next pandemic.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
26. Without Knowing For Certain
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jul 2021

I'll go out on a limb and say they were not vaccinated either. If they end up dying, we'll pretty much know that's the case.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
28. I don't think your info is up to date.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jul 2021

She is hardly the only nurse not to be vaccinated.
A large number of health care workers remain un-vaccinated.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
11. if it wasnt for the risk of new variants i wouldnt care if all the anti vaxxers got sick and died.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:37 PM
Jul 2021

i no longer have any sympathy for them.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
14. Cov-idiot
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jul 2021
Both of Guidry's parents are currently ill with the coronavirus, and she is also survived by a pregnant sister.


What a dolt … a dead dolt.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
15. crooks and liars has her age as 23
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jul 2021
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/07/young-er-nurse-died-covid-youll-never
Olivia Guidry, a popular 23-year-old Louisiana ER nurse, just died of covid. Social media is filled with an outpouring of grief from friends and family. Guess what they're not talking about?

23 and dead, and totally preventable.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
16. I do not know how many times I have to keep saying this but I will repeat as long as I have to:
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

And I will do so in bold, all caps, and underline. But this needs to be clear!

IF YOU DO NOT GET THE VACCINE, YOU HAVE ZERO BUSINESS WORKING AT A HOSPITAL. PERIOD. END OF DEBATE.

Argh this drives me freaking crazy.

StarryNite

(9,444 posts)
21. She played Russian Roulette...she lost.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 04:11 PM
Jul 2021

But how many other people did she "shoot" before she died of her bravado and stupidity? How many people who were unable to get the vaccine due to age or other legitimate health issues and are now sick or asymptomatic spreaders?

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
22. Someone who should have never been a nurse
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jul 2021

If you "don't believe" in basic medical care, you have no business taking care of others.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
41. As An RN, I've Seen A Number Of Nurses...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jul 2021

Who are antivaxx or anti-COVID-vaxx. And it blows my mind, but it really shouldn’t: There are a lot of “conservative” nurses, believe it or not, and that political mindset translates over. Then add in Fecesbook and other social media bullshit…

Well, you get the idea.

area51

(11,908 posts)
31. +1
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

This is the problem I have when some people say, just let the antivaxxers commit suicide by refusing the vaccine. The trouble is, they'll probably take some innocent people (such as immune-compromised people and kids under 12) with them.

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
33. If she passed biology, it may have been with a C-.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jul 2021

She apparently posted this gem:

"This vaccine has been released using recombinant DNA technology faster than any vaccine in the world," Guidry posted on July 26, 2020. "It manipulates your DNA at the tiniest molecular level. Do. Not. Get. It. It's not safe."


She wasted classroom space.

GB_RN

(2,350 posts)
45. This Is Making The Rounds...
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:13 PM
Jul 2021

On social media among the religionuts. They claim it will “alter the antennae on you DNA that allow god to talk to you”, thus keeping you from hearing your favorite deity.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
38. She looks very young
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:01 PM
Jul 2021

Like late 20s or early 30s. Louisiana has always been a hot spot for COVID. Per 100,000 they were the highest for most of last year and have hot spots for community spread even today.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
42. Doesn't bode well for unvaccinated young people
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:10 PM
Jul 2021

Since that's a demographic that is high risk for community spread and were told they would survive easily

Bmoboy

(267 posts)
47. I am a vaccinated retired nurse
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 06:26 PM
Jul 2021

I would not work in a hospital today.

Especially in a low-vax state like Louisiana.

With an airborne virus, there is no absolute protection. The initial and still convincing info is that infection rate depends on viral load. How much of the virus are you exposed to in an enclosed space for how long.

A 12 hour shift in an ER filled with coughing unvaccinated people in denial is too dangerous for this old man.

And BTW, nurses are as smart or dumb as the rest of the population.

As George Carlin once said - “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

51. Jumping the gun here
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:06 PM
Jul 2021

This young woman had severe heart issues (coronary artery fistula) that were somewhat of a time bomb waiting to go off with complications. The cause of death has not been determined and the rest is speculation.

https://www.katc.com/news/lafayette-parish/olgh-autopsy-will-determine-cause-nurses-death

(Snip)

Ochsner Lafayette General says that no cause of death has been determined for a nurse who is reported to have died from complications due to COVID-19.


Beyond this...why would she make a tweet about the "release" of a vaccine in July 2020 when the injections hadn't even come up for EUA FDA approval yet.

Something stinks about the rush to crucify this young nurse after her tragic death.




LisaL

(44,973 posts)
53. Her cause of death is covid from what has been widely reported.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 09:19 PM
Jul 2021

Apparently her brain swelled, she had high fever and a seizure (presumably due to cytokine storm). Her heart issue as far as I can tell was fully investigated and it was determined she didn't need surgery for it. And the fact that she had a heart issue should have been one more reason for her to get vaccinated.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
55. Heart issue are all the more reason to get the vaccine.
Mon Jul 12, 2021, 10:50 PM
Jul 2021

Her heart issues were impacting her ability to breathe in 2019 (per her facebook page). COVID 19 impacts the heart and ability to breathe.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
59. "Crucify?" A bit dramatic. And are you saying that Covid had nothing to do with her death?
Tue Jul 13, 2021, 09:12 PM
Jul 2021

And that it's okay for a medical professional with a heart defect to boot, to not get vaccinated?

What's your point?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
63. There is a difference between advocating no one get the vx and being 1 of those
Wed Jul 14, 2021, 01:34 PM
Jul 2021

who have legitimate reasons to not get it. That's my problem with her.

I know health care workers in both categories and have no patience with the ones advocating no one get the vx.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
70. Natural selection at work
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 06:31 AM
Jul 2021

But, the FDA could help solve at least some of the vaccine hesitancy by moving along full approval of all the vaccines faster than it has. The EUA is what's causing some people to believe the vaccine is "experimental" and leading them not to want to take it.

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