Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:02 PM
SharonClark (8,877 posts)
This is what happens when states cut public funding of family planningIowa abortions climbed 14% in 2020, after jumping 25% the previous year, new state data show . . . rest of the article: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2021/07/15/iowa-abortion-increase-2020-rising-2019-state-data-show/7982870002/
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SharonClark | Jul 2021 | OP |
Dream Girl | Jul 2021 | #1 | |
pandr32 | Jul 2021 | #5 | |
roamer65 | Jul 2021 | #2 | |
Under The Radar | Jul 2021 | #3 | |
Solly Mack | Jul 2021 | #4 | |
gratuitous | Jul 2021 | #6 | |
TheBlackAdder | Jul 2021 | #7 | |
ShazzieB | Jul 2021 | #8 | |
Pepsidog | Jul 2021 | #9 | |
Tree Lady | Jul 2021 | #11 | |
musette_sf | Jul 2021 | #13 | |
Tree Lady | Jul 2021 | #19 | |
Pepsidog | Jul 2021 | #22 | |
Pepsidog | Jul 2021 | #16 | |
musette_sf | Jul 2021 | #12 | |
Pepsidog | Jul 2021 | #17 | |
AZ8theist | Jul 2021 | #21 | |
KS Toronado | Jul 2021 | #10 | |
calimary | Jul 2021 | #14 | |
Mr. Evil | Jul 2021 | #18 | |
BootinUp | Jul 2021 | #15 | |
Marthe48 | Jul 2021 | #20 |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:04 PM
Dream Girl (5,111 posts)
1. Soon we'll be seeing newborns in dumpsters. nt
Response to Dream Girl (Reply #1)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:32 PM
pandr32 (9,031 posts)
5. That's certainly a worry
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:08 PM
roamer65 (31,921 posts)
2. Women should have the complete right to abortion at ANY time during the pregnancy.
The fault of abortions in this case lies with the flying monkey right.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Under The Radar This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:42 PM
gratuitous (77,804 posts)
6. Gee you took a reckless but feel-good route to reduce abortions
But the exact opposite thing happened! Rep. Petersen is far more gracious to these nitwits than I would be: "They're kidding themselves." The comments to the article indicate that most of the Des Moines Register readers get it.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 04:50 PM
TheBlackAdder (23,703 posts)
7. Every birth above stasis adds $350K in local, county & state tax burdens over 18 year period.
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If you add an additional 10K births each and every year above normal birth/death rates. . . In 18 years, that will add over $3Billion to the state, local, school and tax demands. These Fiscal Conservatives will be plotting their own state bankruptcies. . |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:20 PM
ShazzieB (6,652 posts)
8. I wonder how many people in eastern Iowa come to Illinois for abortions.
We're just on the other side of the Mississippi River, and we have the least restrictive abortion laws of any midwestern state. Those statistics are just for abortions performed by clinics in Iowa, so the number of Iowans having abortions is probably even higher.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:33 PM
Pepsidog (5,446 posts)
9. I'm watching The Handmaid's Tale and show about a totalitarian in what used to be the USA but now
rules by a fundamentalist regime that treats women as property of the state. I watched the first season in 2017 and was so disturbed I stopped watching. I mentioned to my wife that in one scene the main character’s wife in the run up to the takeover of society by the religious nuts had to have her husband consent in writing to get her monthly birth control. My wife scoffed at me when I said that I wouldn’t see a law like that enacted in many Republican run states. After running out of thing to watch during the pandemic I resumed watching The Handmaid’s Tale and in a scene one of the Commanders asked one of the Handmaid’s if she knew what the penalty for taking Burt control is and she replies “yes, death by ravaging dogs”. This show is a stark warning of what can easily happen here if the Republican Taliban is not confronted now while we still have a chance to stop them.
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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #9)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:43 PM
Tree Lady (9,928 posts)
11. The thing that always got me was it was all invented
by the commanders wife. The whole idea of hers was to live in a society like the old days where she could stay home and have babies. She talked her husband into the idea and they created the party that took over the government and enacted the new laws.
Many years later when she couldn't have kids and had to be one of the ladies watching her husband rape a women to try and give her a kid then blamed it on the women when they didn't, finally finding out it was him he couldn't have kids so they used an employee and forced their handmaid to be with him. But my point is it was all HER idea in the beginning, a woman's idea! When she finally gets out to Canada you can tell she wants her independence back and she was thinking what the fu*k did I start? Makes me think of republican women that go along with so many of the ideas that keep women down. |
Response to Tree Lady (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:00 PM
musette_sf (9,728 posts)
13. In the Hulu series I thought it was clear
that the Commanders cooked up the Ceremony so that the Wives would buy into their husbands' boinking the Handmaids.
https://the-handmaids-tale.fandom.com/wiki/The_Ceremony |
Response to musette_sf (Reply #13)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:31 PM
Tree Lady (9,928 posts)
19. The ceremony part wasn't her idea
She started the whole idea of this old fashioned community where wives submitted to their husbands, then your right the men took over from there. But the original idea I believe was hers.
In Season 1 Episode 6, "A Woman's Place," fans finally learned about Serena Joy's past as a religious author and speaker. Before the takeover, Serena Joy published a book called A Woman's Place that described a way of life known as "domestic feminism." According to domestic feminism, women should submit to their "biological destiny" as mothers and child-bearers rather than pursue high-powered jobs or fulfilling carers. At the time, a historically low birth rate was devastating the U.S. population, so Serena's words served as both a solution — her book focused on "fertility as a national resource, reproduction as a moral imperative" — and as a rallying call for religious Americans. |
Response to Tree Lady (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:08 PM
Pepsidog (5,446 posts)
22. Margaret Atwood is well ahead of her time.
Response to Tree Lady (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:12 PM
Pepsidog (5,446 posts)
16. Ironic indeed.
Response to Pepsidog (Reply #9)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:54 PM
musette_sf (9,728 posts)
12. In Season 3 Commander Lawrence
(played by the marvelous Bradley Whitfield) gives Handmaid June a package of BC pills, after they are forced to perform The Ceremony and prove to a doctor that it was consummated. Presumably June knows that the "morning after pill" is a high-dose BCP, so Commander Lawrence was protecting June from him impregnating her.
https://the-handmaids-tale.fandom.com/wiki/Witness |
Response to musette_sf (Reply #12)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:15 PM
Pepsidog (5,446 posts)
17. Yes a much better description than what I wrote. On episode 13 of season 3 now.
Response to Pepsidog (Reply #9)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:05 PM
AZ8theist (4,364 posts)
21. You can bet your ass if the Reich Wing takes over completely....
...not only will Rove v Wade be gone, they will reverse Griswold v Connecticut as well.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit they will then try to reverse the 19th Amendment. |
Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 05:39 PM
KS Toronado (8,078 posts)
10. reQublicans are currently yelling "My body my choice"
when it comes to getting the vaccine. But they refuse to grant women the same choice.
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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #10)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:02 PM
calimary (69,170 posts)
14. Yes. I noted that irony, too.
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Response to calimary (Reply #14)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 06:18 PM
Mr. Evil (1,987 posts)
18. To a republican,
irony is something their Mexican maid does. I hate republicans.
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Response to SharonClark (Original post)
Fri Jul 16, 2021, 07:00 PM
Marthe48 (9,171 posts)
20. Who the hell do they they're kidding?
Underlying all of the perversion of our sexual natures in the world, Mother Nature is behind all of our bodily urges. And Mother Nature is going to win.
If we are aware that there is a biological imperative, it is easier for some to avoid the pitfalls. Taking away a vital pipeline to education is aiding and abetting unplanned sex, unplanned pregnancies and unplanned families. |