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riversedge

(70,205 posts)
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:33 AM Jul 2021

U.S. Hits Highest Number of Daily New Coronavirus Cases in the World Again: Nearly 80,000

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U.S. Hits Highest Number of Daily New Coronavirus Cases in the World Again: Nearly 80,000


https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-hits-highest-number-of-daily-new-coronavirus-cases-in-the-world-again-at-nearly-80000?via=ios



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Blake Montgomery Published Jul. 17, 2021 5:22PM ET


The United States recorded 79,310 new cases of COVID-19 on Friday, according to Johns Hopkins University. The number is the highest in the world, exceeding recorded totals from Indonesia (54,000), the United Kingdom (51,949), and Brazil (45,591), and doubling that of India (38,079). The spiking case number matches the level hit in October 2020, a record at the time, though it would not remain so for long. Despite the effectiveness of multiple vaccines against the virus, vaccine hesitancy is fueling “a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” according to CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. The vast majority of all patients currently hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, according to the CDC.
Read it at Johns Hopkins University



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U.S. Hits Highest Number of Daily New Coronavirus Cases in the World Again: Nearly 80,000 (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2021 OP
That's what an America First 'philosophy' gets you. tanyev Jul 2021 #1
Huh? What does that mean? Renew Deal Jul 2021 #2
America First is the catchphrase of Trumpism and its enablers. tanyev Jul 2021 #4
I don't see this trend reversing. It's going to get bad again captain queeg Jul 2021 #3
Indeed, we are headed for a long long time of covid spreading. BSdetect Jul 2021 #22
Might be time to focus on hospitalizations and deaths Amishman Jul 2021 #5
Deaths lag cases. LisaL Jul 2021 #6
Smaller poppulation to draw from. triron Jul 2021 #7
Because a large percentage of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. Ace Rothstein Jul 2021 #9
+1. I've been thinking about using unvaccinated populations for per capita metrics. Pobeka Jul 2021 #10
I noticed an interesting trend and one I wasn't expecting on a chart you posted yesterday. Hugin Jul 2021 #14
Just to be clear, the "Tests" chart is all tests, regardless of the test outcome. Pobeka Jul 2021 #15
Yeah, that is correct. Hugin Jul 2021 #16
yep. Pobeka Jul 2021 #18
According to multiple news reports, testing is down and not so good MisterNiceKitty Jul 2021 #12
FYI: The actual number is closer to 40,000 new infections on Friday. Pobeka Jul 2021 #8
40,529 for Friday, July 16 according to worldometer Klaralven Jul 2021 #11
That's What I See Too ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #19
"vaccine hesitancy" needs to go away as an expression. Hugin Jul 2021 #13
I actually like that phrase -- for psychological reasons. Pobeka Jul 2021 #17
2 weeks after the 4th.... Brainfodder Jul 2021 #20
OWN THE LIBS AT ALL COSTS!!! joetheman Jul 2021 #21
That number is close to double the actual number of cases. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #23
Excellent, we're back to the sensational tactic of comparing raw numbers rictofen Jul 2021 #24

tanyev

(42,553 posts)
4. America First is the catchphrase of Trumpism and its enablers.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:00 AM
Jul 2021

It is the justification they use for all their baseless and unconscionable actions, but according to the article in this post America is first in the number of daily new coronavirus cases in the world and I attribute that in large part to the right wing mindset. That is what that means.

captain queeg

(10,188 posts)
3. I don't see this trend reversing. It's going to get bad again
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jul 2021

At least this time people who get sick are largely responsible for their plight. Of course that’s not going to be completely true and they will infect many others. And it’s not just the US. I was thinking I’d soon be able to travel internationally, but it’s starting to look like that will not be the case. My family is fully vaccinated and at this point I wouldn’t be afraid to travel but if the numbers keep rising I think more travel restrictions are coming soon.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
5. Might be time to focus on hospitalizations and deaths
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jul 2021

Our testing is pretty darn good now and our vaccination rate (while plateaued) is ahead of many countries

so we're likely capturing more breakthrough infections and our peers, and these tend to be mild.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Deaths lag cases.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jul 2021

If most people who are getting infected are un-vaccinated (which is what we are being told), then why would you expect deaths to be lower?

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
10. +1. I've been thinking about using unvaccinated populations for per capita metrics.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jul 2021

So far nothiing to show, got some house work to do today so that's on a back burner.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
14. I noticed an interesting trend and one I wasn't expecting on a chart you posted yesterday.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

The blue govenorship states have a much larger increase in the number of positive tests reported.

I take that as people in the blue states are more likely to be tested or have testing available than in the red states.

The rest was generally a confirmation of what I've been seeing.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
15. Just to be clear, the "Tests" chart is all tests, regardless of the test outcome.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jul 2021

So I think what you misunderstood that and called it "the number of positive tests reported"?

Those tests with positive results are simply the new dailty cases chart.

The slope of increase of new daily cases are roughly equivalent right now.

As Delta gains more of a foothold in the red states that will change dramatically, and red states will rise much faster in new daily cases per capita than blue states.

I expect that will show up clearly in about week.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
16. Yeah, that is correct.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jul 2021

I was working from memory. It was more tests performed in the blue states.

Again, with my same reasoning as to why they showed more of an increase than the red states is because those areas are still more proactive with respect to COVID.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
12. According to multiple news reports, testing is down and not so good
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jul 2021

It's likely undercounting the breakthrough and Delta related infections

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-vaccinations-increasing-happened-covid-19-testing/story?id=76954250

"As more Americans get vaccinated, the urgency to get a COVID-19 test is steadily declining despite the Biden administration promising there would be a "wartime undertaking" to increase access, with billions of dollars in investment from U.S. manufacturing companies to develop new COVID-19 tests.

The U.S. has continued a downward trend, with a 30% decrease in the number of daily COVID-19 tests, according to the Johns Hopkins University Coronavirus Resource Center. The U.S. now conducts just over 1 million tests a day after hitting its peak for the year so far on Jan. 15 with 2.3 million tests."

According to the CDC, vaccinated people can skip testing

"The CDC updated its COVID-19 testing guidance for vaccinated people last week and shared a new tally on the small number of people who've been hospitalized or died from the virus after being fully vaccinated.

On May 17, the agency said fully vaccinated people with no symptoms do not need to get tested for COVID-19, even if they were exposed to someone with the virus."

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
8. FYI: The actual number is closer to 40,000 new infections on Friday.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021

There are a number of states (FL,AR,WA,GA,MS,SD,SC,MA,LA,IN,UT,...) that update once a week.

For example, FL's new cases number is 45,448. That is for the entire week from 7-9-2021 to 7-15-2021. So the new cases on Friday is 45,448/7=6492

Makes it really hard to make these comparison of who's worse on a particular day.

Best practice is to use running averages on a weekly basis.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
11. 40,529 for Friday, July 16 according to worldometer
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

30,471 was the 7-day moving average last Friday.

The 7-day moving average curve has turned up rather steeply. We could see 80K in a month.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
19. That's What I See Too
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jul 2021

From both your cite & Johns-Hopkins. The latter is typically 24 hours behind, so their last posting would be Friday, not yesterday.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
13. "vaccine hesitancy" needs to go away as an expression.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jul 2021

It is not a hesitancy at this point, but, a calculated effort by special interests of which public health is not a concern.

There is clearly an anti-vaccination message being sent out to the public.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
17. I actually like that phrase -- for psychological reasons.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jul 2021

It gives non-vaxers a way to save face and get vaccinated. If they can feel like they were just being extra careful, or waiting to see how it turned out for us "guinea pigs", then they can come forward get vaccinated without feeling like the selfish stupid idiot they actually are.

They sure don't need any more mental barriers to get vaccinated.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
20. 2 weeks after the 4th....
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jul 2021

Since media and leadership continues to play them for political profit and probably more and the side effect of not enough being vaccinated for whatever reason, yeah it's a problem says science?

And 55% of them polled are at the least science skeptics now?

Sounds like time to break the country up?





Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
23. That number is close to double the actual number of cases.
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 06:20 PM
Jul 2021

Johns Hopkins has a history of doubling numbers (or puling them from sources that doubled them), not correcting them very promptly, and not explaining corrections. (Some of the reasons I abandoned that site close to a year ago).

The actual number for Friday is around 40,500 (Wordometers.info) or 51890 (NYT)

rictofen

(236 posts)
24. Excellent, we're back to the sensational tactic of comparing raw numbers
Sun Jul 18, 2021, 07:20 PM
Jul 2021

Between countries with vastly different population sizes.

When India was getting slammed by Delta, DU consensus was to quickly and repeatedly remind people that they have a huge population. And rightly so. I guess we like being gluttons for statistical punishment.

And as others have pointed out, the ~80k number itself is jacked up.

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