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sheshe2

(83,904 posts)
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:53 PM Jul 2021

Nina Turner has Ideas.




Ideas? That is her platform? Ideas?

This race needs to be about who has the best ideas to lead Ohio’s 11th Congressional district.

Cleveland is the poorest big city in the country. Families are struggling. The status quo is how we got here. If poverty is a policy choice it’s time to make new choices.


Not how to make those ideas, whatever they are become law, no policy and no plan, nothing. Just an idea.

Ideas are great, solutions are better and as a Congresswoman she needs to be ready from day one to write policy to make those changes, whatever they are.

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Nina Turner has Ideas. (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2021 OP
Perhaps she should run for mayor relayerbob Jul 2021 #1
Ideas are cheap. Plans take work. TreasonousBastard Jul 2021 #2
she is such a liar Chili Jul 2021 #3
Agreed. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #6
right Chili Jul 2021 #8
Everyone's part of the corrupt elite establishment except for the revolution Justice Democrats betsuni Jul 2021 #9
A platform requires actual ideas and proposals LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #4
True. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #5
Like the idea that Hillary/Biden/Trump are all the same "status quo." Both parties, same economic betsuni Jul 2021 #7
+1, "simplistic populist idea" Nixie Jul 2021 #11
Thanks for bringing this vacuousness to our attention, sheshe Nixie Jul 2021 #10
"as a Congresswoman." DFW Jul 2021 #12
We all have ideas. Everyone has ideas. MineralMan Jul 2021 #13

Chili

(1,725 posts)
3. she is such a liar
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jul 2021

"Status quo" bullsh*t. Is she implying that Fudge let down the city / her district? Really? Is that how she got picked to run HUD?

Here's a list from 2019, pre-pandemic - Cleveland is not even on that list:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/205637/percentage-of-poor-people-in-the-top-20-most-populated-cities-in-the-us/

Since this is dated 2021, it's "post"-pandemic; most of the recent lists have what I call our sister city Detroit as #1 by a wide margin:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/poorest-cities-in-america

Pandemic hit us hard, especially downtown, where limited, if any, fans could attend our 3 venues (Cavs, Browns, Indians), not to mention the restaurants, bars, hotels. Also Cleveland State U. is large, many students, no classes - those students spend a fortune down there. Just like every other city. WTF is wrong with her?

sheshe2

(83,904 posts)
6. Agreed.
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jul 2021

If she had ideas she would state them.

She got nothing.

Plus she has talks about her home town Cleveland. Hasn't lived there in 11 years. Her residence is in Maryland.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
8. right
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:09 AM
Jul 2021

...and I didn't even mention Playhouse Square (live theater), a prosperous orchestra, and the shops. Employees servicing all of those activities suffered.

Can't wait 'til this is over.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
9. Everyone's part of the corrupt elite establishment except for the revolution Justice Democrats
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:19 AM
Jul 2021

people like Nina. Everyone! Like the time someone called Planned Parenthood establishment.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
7. Like the idea that Hillary/Biden/Trump are all the same "status quo." Both parties, same economic
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:04 AM
Jul 2021

"status quo" policies ignoring working/middle classes. "Status quo" meaning money in politics, that everyone except you is corrupt.

The simplistic populist idea: the virtuous 'Us' (the people, the 99% -- there's a "will of the people" and they all agree whether they're Democrats, Republicans, non-voters, you just need to bring the message to them and the workers' revolution will begin) versus the "Them" (the corrupt elite establishment 1%).

Sure, these are totally the best ideas!

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
11. +1, "simplistic populist idea"
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:21 AM
Jul 2021

Amen! Very simplistic. Voters have shown they have rejected the superficiality at least twice now in the last few years.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
10. Thanks for bringing this vacuousness to our attention, sheshe
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:20 AM
Jul 2021

She sounds like she's just phoning it in -- so superficial.





MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
13. We all have ideas. Everyone has ideas.
Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jul 2021

They're as common as flies. However, those who talk about unspecified ideas almost never have actual plans to make those ideas real.

Here's an idea: "We need to conquer poverty." That's a good idea. How to do that, though, requires a plan that has a strong chance of succeeding. Let's hear your plans, candidates, not just your ideas.

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