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Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:33 AM

Scientists discovered over 30 viruses frozen in ice. Almost all of them have never been seen before.



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Ancient viruses were found frozen in two ice samples taken from the Tibetan Plateau in China – and most of them are unlike anything ever seen before.

Scientists discovered over 30 viruses frozen in ice. Almost all of them have never been seen before.
The group of researchers from Ohio State found viruses with genetic codes that have never been discovered.
usatoday.com
6:05 PM · Jul 21, 2021


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/07/21/researchers-discover-28-never-before-seen-viruses-frozen-ice/8042635002/

A group of scientists discovered ancient viruses frozen in two ice samples taken from the Tibetan Plateau in China, and most of them are unlike anything ever seen before.

The findings, published Wednesday in the journal Microbiome, came from ice cores taken in 2015 that scientists said began to freeze at least 14,400 years ago.

“These glaciers were formed gradually, and along with dust and gases, many, many viruses were also deposited in that ice," Zhi-Ping Zhong, lead author and researcher at the Ohio State University Byrd Polar and Climate Research Center, said in a statement. "The glaciers in western China are not well-studied, and our goal is to use this information to reflect past environments. And viruses are a part of those environments."

When researchers analyzed the ice, they found genetic codes for 33 viruses. Of the 33, genetic codes for four of them showed they are part of virus families that typically infect bacteria. Up to 28 were novel, meaning they had never before been identified.

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Reply Scientists discovered over 30 viruses frozen in ice. Almost all of them have never been seen before. (Original post)
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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:37 AM

1. Just what we don't need.

Ordinarily, I would say fascinating. Not just now. No more novel viruses, please.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:53 AM

10. THESE ICES...... They contain MONSTERS .... like in the movie THE THING.

I WILL drown myself before i let myself get destroyed by monsters !!!! pictures of that monster coming outta that dog still wake me up at night .....

carpenters .... THE THING.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:37 AM

2. Don't these scientists watch movies? n/t

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:02 AM

3. Oh, that's effing great.

I'm reading "Phase Six" about a pandemic that starts in a small village in Greenland after miners dig up a long-buried avian virus. It seems so plausible. The novel is a good read and frankly terrifying.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:17 AM

4. Better start believing in Science.

This ain't rocket science, but we were told 50 fucking years ago that it was a reality and the Republican Party, a fully owned operational subsidiary of Big Oil/Gas....kept denying it. But, tax cuts and deregulation....win!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:18 AM

5. Ice is melting all over the world: permafrost, glaciers, you name it

At least the scientists will get to study some of it before it liquifies by itself

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:33 AM

6. Well, time for them to replicate the mystery viruses...

... and try to infect some animals now.



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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:41 AM

7. PUT THEM BACK!!!

We don't need any more!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:43 AM

8. Well, it was nice meeting people on DU.



I guess humanity has had a good run.





See ya on the other side.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:50 AM

9. Better get busy bringing them back to life

To "study" them.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:19 AM

18. Given that the ice is melting and they may be reintroduced into circulation, that may

not be a bad idea.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:28 AM

11. We're all gonna die.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:46 AM

25. I may as well start smoking again.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:30 AM

26. "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue"

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 04:13 AM

12. I can write this movie!

Please don't make me.

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Response to catrose (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:20 AM

19. Makes me think of the black oil on X-files.

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Response to GPV (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:46 AM

24. Yeah, and the spaceship buried under the ice.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:31 AM

14. And to think some folks think humans hold dominion over nature.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:05 AM

15. HG Wells, War of the Worlds

It kept the Martians from taking over the planet, didn't it?

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Response to Throck (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:12 AM

16. Yeah, but will Morgan Freeman be there to narrate it?

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:12 AM

17. This will be part of how climate change kills us.

Not just rising oceans, killed off parts of the ecosystem and more violent and frequent storms, but also brand new, very old, deadly viruses unlocked from being frozen in eternity. I bet at least a few of them will make the worse viruses in history seems kind.

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:36 AM

22. +1

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:35 AM

20. Please keep them secure ffs

Things are already pretty nasty out here.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 06:44 AM

21. Estimates vary that there are 1 to 10 million different species of virus

Biologists estimate that 380 trillion viruses are living on and inside your body right now—10 times the number of bacteria. Some can cause illness, but many simply coexist with you. In late 2019, for example, researchers at the University of Pennsylvania discovered 19 different strains of redondovirus in the respiratory tract; a handful were associated with periodontal disease or lung disease, but others could possibly fight respiratory illnesses. Scientists' rapidly expanding knowledge makes it clear that we are not made up primarily of “human” cells that are occasionally invaded by microbes; our body is really a superorganism of cohabitating cells, bacteria, fungi and most numerous of all: viruses. The latest counts indicate that as much as half of all the biological matter in your body is not human.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/viruses-can-help-us-as-well-as-harm-us/

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:36 AM

27. Thank you for this article link.

I have gotten 1/2 way thru. Just marvelous, so much good information!!

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:43 AM

23. .

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:38 AM

28. A teaspoon of seawater...

"A teaspoon of seawater typically contains about fifty million viruses.[6] Most of these viruses are bacteriophages which infect and destroy marine bacteria and control the growth of phytoplankton at the base of the marine food web. Bacteriophages are harmless to plants and animals but are essential to the regulation of marine ecosystems. They supply key mechanisms for recycling ocean carbon and nutrients. In a process known as the viral shunt, organic molecules released from dead bacterial cells stimulate fresh bacterial and algal growth. In particular, the breaking down of bacteria by viruses (lysis) has been shown to enhance nitrogen cycling and stimulate phytoplankton growth. Viral activity also affects the biological pump, the process which sequesters carbon in the deep ocean. By increasing the amount of respiration in the oceans, viruses are indirectly responsible for reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere by approximately 3 gigatonnes of carbon per year."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_viruses

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:46 AM

29. The vast majority of viruses are not pathogenic to mammals.

Most infect bacteria, which is not surprising, since there are bacteria everywhere in unbelievable numbers. Most bacteria, too, are not pathogenic, but are crucial to the ecosystem.

So, since these viruses were found in frozen water, I'd bet heavily that not a single one is a human pathogen.

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