Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:24 AM

Hekate (81,915 posts)

Should hospitals be allowed to turn away patients based on race, creed, suspected gayness...

… being trans, or in the case of women, suspicion her claimed miscarriage might instead be a botched abortion?

Because, people, this is where you are going when you demand hospitals turn away the suspected unvaccinated.

Would really like your thoughts.

89 replies	Author	Time	Post
Should hospitals be allowed to turn away patients based on race, creed, suspected gayness... (Original post)	Hekate	Jul 2021	OP
Rec.	Iggo	Jul 2021	#1
I treid to make that point earlier. We have to fight our rage and justified resentment.	hlthe2b	Jul 2021	#2
i dont know about this "slope" but it makes no sense to turn them away if they are	Eliot Rosewater	Jul 2021	#3
No, and they are NOT the same things.	elleng	Jul 2021	#4
Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious.	Aristus	Jul 2021	#5
Exactly. If you are unvaccinated, you are voluntarily a danger to staff and patients.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#19
Thank you Hekate	Devil Child	Jul 2021	#6
People do stupid things all the time that result in medical tragedy.	NNadir	Jul 2021	#7
Great answer. -nt	CrispyQ	Jul 2021	#8
How many medical professionals did your father ask to die because of	Maru Kitteh	Jul 2021	#68
My father was treated with 5-FU, a known carcinogen itself...	NNadir	Jul 2021	#72
People are saying hospitals should turn away the unvaccinated?	Haggard Celine	Jul 2021	#9
At last, someone with a memory. I was thinking both of the early AIDS crisis & the pre-Civil Rights	Hekate	Jul 2021	#51
Your analogies make no sense.	Goodheart	Jul 2021	#10
Great Points	modrepub	Jul 2021	#13
Somebody's refusal to vaccinate is a voluntary choice.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#20
Thank you.	SharonClark	Jul 2021	#32
See above	Hekate	Jul 2021	#62
Oh, I happen to agree that the unvaccinated right now should not be turned away, BUT	Goodheart	Jul 2021	#74
+100000	BannonsLiver	Jul 2021	#11
NO! As a medical professional..absolutely not	PortTack	Jul 2021	#12
There is solid precedent, btw, in the "conscience clauses" demanded by the Evangelicals ...	Hekate	Jul 2021	#14
Hospitals are there to treat sick people.	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#15
I would certainly hope so.	Hekate	Jul 2021	#46
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#47
Ah, grammar can kill ya if you're not careful. I AGREED with you.	Hekate	Jul 2021	#48
Sorry	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#50
's okay	Hekate	Jul 2021	#58
I would guess that most people saying that are just venting, because many of us	Crunchy Frog	Jul 2021	#16
This is the kind of thing that pisses me off beyond belief.	smirkymonkey	Jul 2021	#67
Never. It should be the law that they cannot discriminate	MineralMan	Jul 2021	#17
+10000000000000000	Celerity	Jul 2021	#69
Bullshit.	lagomorph777	Jul 2021	#18
Of course not	Meowmee	Jul 2021	#21
Self kick	Hekate	Jul 2021	#22
Turn away the unvaccinated? No.	xmas74	Jul 2021	#23
yikes... are DUers suggesting the unvaxxed get turned away?	Demovictory9	Jul 2021	#24
Yes: it's been intermittent but vengeful, with pile-ons. I Object....	Hekate	Jul 2021	#31
They're just venting.	SharonClark	Jul 2021	#33
My wife is a medical professional.	hunter	Jul 2021	#25
Are we going to turn away:	Patterson	Jul 2021	#26
My brother, who died last year of COPD, started smoking by age 13. Some people are so judgmental...	Hekate	Jul 2021	#45
Public health is not a weapon to punish people we don't like.	WhiskeyGrinder	Jul 2021	#27
TY, WhiskeyGrinder, for being among the few who are getting my point	Hekate	Jul 2021	#38
+1 WhiskeyGrinder, Best sentence in this entire thread!	Devil Child	Jul 2021	#64
As a highly communicable disease threat, they should go to separate COVID facilities.	roamer65	Jul 2021	#28
You are spreading medical misinformation. Please stop.	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#49
In your opinion.	roamer65	Jul 2021	#52
Give me a source.	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#53
...	roamer65	Jul 2021	#54
Well I guess that's sort of a source. Now what exactly does that mean?	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#57
...	roamer65	Jul 2021	#59
I read it but your thesis is still crap. Vaccines protect against the Delta virus..	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#60
No read again. They specifically stated that 6 ft will not work with Delta in one of the articles.	roamer65	Jul 2021	#61
I did read it again. I guess you are referring to an	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#63
Have you missed all of the studies on aerosolized transmission?	Ms. Toad	Jul 2021	#76
And that's why everyone in a hospital wears a mask. Problem solved.	Tomconroy	Jul 2021	#78
Still not acknowledging that you are wrong about 6'?	Ms. Toad	Jul 2021	#79
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2021	#29
I'll join you in trashing it.	SharonClark	Jul 2021	#34
Even idiots deserve quality Healthcare nt	XanaDUer2	Jul 2021	#30
+1. Nt	Dirty Socialist	Jul 2021	#65
No, not the same thing at all	JI7	Jul 2021	#35
Which point on your list infects others?	LanternWaste	Jul 2021	#36
Read all my comments in this thread and you will understand my point, loud and clear	Hekate	Jul 2021	#37
Once someone finds one excuse to deny health care	Sympthsical	Jul 2021	#39
Walking away from anyone who need medical assistance violates the Hippocratic Oath.	meadowlander	Jul 2021	#40
Yet right here at DU we have members demanding that doctors & hospitals do just that	Hekate	Jul 2021	#42
You're not alone.	Treefrog	Jul 2021	#66
Can they deny treatment on religious grounds?	SoonerPride	Jul 2021	#41
Those of us in the pro-choice community KNOW they can	Hekate	Jul 2021	#43
So yeah. They're already denying medical services	SoonerPride	Jul 2021	#44
Are you still not wearing a mask? Nt	USALiberal	Jul 2021	#80
I am vaccinated.	SoonerPride	Jul 2021	#81
Lol, Things have change a little bit since you were pushing that.	USALiberal	Jul 2021	#82
Changed? like what? Breakthough cases are still rare.	SoonerPride	Jul 2021	#86
So you're still not going to wear a mask??	USALiberal	Jul 2021	#89
I agree with your assessment	Skittles	Jul 2021	#55
Thank you, Skittles	Hekate	Jul 2021	#56
I absolutely agree as well.	Celerity	Jul 2021	#70
Another perspective on this. Nurses getting abused and threatened by covidiots.	Crunchy Frog	Jul 2021	#71
Don't Turn them Away - Charge Them Or Their Insurance Co. For Treatment Though	Jim G.	Jul 2021	#73
Of course not. How is this even a discussion?	SKKY	Jul 2021	#75
As I mentioned earlier, DUers. Very, very angry DUers with vengeful thoughts. Okay, not all...	Hekate	Jul 2021	#88
First, no it isn't where we are going.It's not the same thing	ismnotwasm	Jul 2021	#77
They should be turned away once the designated covid areas are full.	Wingus Dingus	Jul 2021	#83
Hospitals Should	RobinA	Jul 2021	#84
WhiskeyGrinder put it most succinctly: Public health is not a weapon to punish people we don't like	Hekate	Jul 2021	#85
I don't think it is where we are headed.	Caliman73	Jul 2021	#87

Should hospitals be allowed to turn away patients based on race, creed, suspected gayness...

1. Rec.

2. I treid to make that point earlier. We have to fight our rage and justified resentment.

3. i dont know about this "slope" but it makes no sense to turn them away if they are

4. No, and they are NOT the same things.

5. Race, creed, gayness, and abortions are not infectious.

19. Exactly. If you are unvaccinated, you are voluntarily a danger to staff and patients.

6. Thank you Hekate

7. People do stupid things all the time that result in medical tragedy.

8. Great answer. -nt

68. How many medical professionals did your father ask to die because of

72. My father was treated with 5-FU, a known carcinogen itself...

9. People are saying hospitals should turn away the unvaccinated?

51. At last, someone with a memory. I was thinking both of the early AIDS crisis & the pre-Civil Rights

10. Your analogies make no sense.

13. Great Points

20. Somebody's refusal to vaccinate is a voluntary choice.

32. Thank you.

62. See above

74. Oh, I happen to agree that the unvaccinated right now should not be turned away, BUT

11. +100000

12. NO! As a medical professional..absolutely not

14. There is solid precedent, btw, in the "conscience clauses" demanded by the Evangelicals ...

15. Hospitals are there to treat sick people.

46. I would certainly hope so.

48. Ah, grammar can kill ya if you're not careful. I AGREED with you.

50. Sorry

58. 's okay

16. I would guess that most people saying that are just venting, because many of us

67. This is the kind of thing that pisses me off beyond belief.

17. Never. It should be the law that they cannot discriminate

69. +10000000000000000

18. Bullshit.

21. Of course not

22. Self kick

23. Turn away the unvaccinated? No.

24. yikes... are DUers suggesting the unvaxxed get turned away?

31. Yes: it's been intermittent but vengeful, with pile-ons. I Object....

33. They're just venting.

25. My wife is a medical professional.

26. Are we going to turn away:

45. My brother, who died last year of COPD, started smoking by age 13. Some people are so judgmental...

27. Public health is not a weapon to punish people we don't like.

38. TY, WhiskeyGrinder, for being among the few who are getting my point

64. +1 WhiskeyGrinder, Best sentence in this entire thread!

28. As a highly communicable disease threat, they should go to separate COVID facilities.

49. You are spreading medical misinformation. Please stop.

52. In your opinion.

53. Give me a source.

54. ...

57. Well I guess that's sort of a source. Now what exactly does that mean?

59. ...

60. I read it but your thesis is still crap. Vaccines protect against the Delta virus..

61. No read again. They specifically stated that 6 ft will not work with Delta in one of the articles.

63. I did read it again. I guess you are referring to an

76. Have you missed all of the studies on aerosolized transmission?

78. And that's why everyone in a hospital wears a mask. Problem solved.

79. Still not acknowledging that you are wrong about 6'?

34. I'll join you in trashing it.

30. Even idiots deserve quality Healthcare nt

65. +1. Nt

35. No, not the same thing at all

36. Which point on your list infects others?

37. Read all my comments in this thread and you will understand my point, loud and clear

39. Once someone finds one excuse to deny health care

40. Walking away from anyone who need medical assistance violates the Hippocratic Oath.

42. Yet right here at DU we have members demanding that doctors & hospitals do just that

66. You're not alone.

41. Can they deny treatment on religious grounds?

43. Those of us in the pro-choice community KNOW they can

44. So yeah. They're already denying medical services

80. Are you still not wearing a mask? Nt

81. I am vaccinated.

82. Lol, Things have change a little bit since you were pushing that.

86. Changed? like what? Breakthough cases are still rare.

89. So you're still not going to wear a mask??

55. I agree with your assessment

56. Thank you, Skittles

70. I absolutely agree as well.

71. Another perspective on this. Nurses getting abused and threatened by covidiots.