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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,398 posts)
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:37 PM Jul 2021

Pelosi faced 'a wall of screaming' from McCarthy after rejecting 2 GOP picks for the January 6

select committee, report says

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi faced a "wall of screaming" from Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy after nixing two of his selections to serve on the House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol insurrection, Politico reported on Friday.

The already-frosty relations between Pelosi and McCarthy boiled over into a public battle when Pelosi took the unprecedented step on Wednesday of rejecting two of McCarthy's picks: Rep. Gym Jordan of Ohio and Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana.

"With respect for the integrity of the investigation, with an insistence on the truth and with concern about statements made and actions taken by these Members, I must reject the recommendations of Representatives Banks and Jordan to the Select Committee," Pelosi said in a Wednesday statement, allowing McCarthy's other GOP recommendations of Reps. Rodney Davis, Kelly Armstrong, and Troy Nehls to stay.

One source described the ensuing phone conversation between Pelosi and McCarthy as a "wall of screaming" from McCarthy's end while another confirmed there were "raised voices," according to Politico.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-faced-a-wall-of-screaming-from-mccarthy-after-rejecting-2-gop-picks-for-the-january-6-select-committee-report-says/ar-AAMtMzi

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Pelosi faced 'a wall of screaming' from McCarthy after rejecting 2 GOP picks for the January 6 (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
He is losing the battle and knows it liberal N proud Jul 2021 #1
When the GOP refuses to certify elections they lose and the House and Senate are taken over Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #2
I supported Hillary WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #9
Yes, what is absolutely certain is the GOP no longer will even pretend to believe in democracy Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #52
I agree with this 100%. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #77
100% Agree! True Blue American Jul 2021 #80
If only Putin had kept his thumb off the scales. SergeStorms Jul 2021 #36
I agree with all my heart, that that is true too. nt LittleGirl Jul 2021 #41
Yes, WE All Know That The Roux Comes First Jul 2021 #46
People supported Clinton. intheflow Jul 2021 #43
So, you seem to be.... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #86
Glass? What glass? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #88
+10 nt reACTIONary Jul 2021 #93
Sure, Kevin, that's the way for an grumpyduck Jul 2021 #3
Taking his cues from the former idiot king PortTack Jul 2021 #31
When your adversary starts screaming at you, you know he's lost the plot Ocelot II Jul 2021 #4
Exactly. KM Lost It. Cha Jul 2021 #50
Kevin taking lessons from Gym True Blue American Jul 2021 #81
When dealing with toddlers, that's how you know you've gotten to them. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #5
Kevin was red-faced with hysteria. I laughed and laughed Walleye Jul 2021 #6
Men are too emotional to be in politics. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #13
Exactly. Anger is a much stronger emotion than sympathy or love Walleye Jul 2021 #18
And much more dangerous and destructive. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #32
Absolutely, terrifying Walleye Jul 2021 #33
to emotional to be cops too.. stillcool Jul 2021 #29
Oh ,I love that one! True Blue American Jul 2021 #82
What did you think was going to happen, Kevin? gratuitous Jul 2021 #7
Yeh, I don't get it ScratchCat Jul 2021 #16
Really wryter2000 Jul 2021 #89
Screaming like she took his binkie away. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #8
How is her rejecting those two clowns "unprecedented?" Bristlecone Jul 2021 #10
What was "unprecedented" was appointing two members whose own actions should be investigated. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #20
It is rare, based upon past House or even Senate commissions, for any selected member to be kicked.. machoneman Jul 2021 #26
It's so much political theater. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #11
tantrum NJCher Jul 2021 #53
But how do you teach the sane part how to act? Strikes Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #74
yes NJCher Jul 2021 #75
Without saying at all that a behavior or belief is absurd? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #76
Of course McCarthy gets nothing from Pelosi for screaming nuxvomica Jul 2021 #12
A woman who raised five children knows how to handle tantrums. milestogo Jul 2021 #14
He knew this was going to happen. Grasswire2 Jul 2021 #15
This whole thing is Andy823 Jul 2021 #17
Profound fear Mme. Defarge Jul 2021 #19
By this time I bet she's really tired of baby sitting. rickyhall Jul 2021 #21
Hey kevie - talk to the hand!!!! When you can be more civil..call me.. asiliveandbreathe Jul 2021 #22
Good. The screamer, is the loser. peppertree Jul 2021 #23
I'm sure Nancy recognizes kiddies throwing temper tantrums. Vinca Jul 2021 #24
During Pelosi's statement when she was rejecting Gym Q Jordan & Jim Banks KS Toronado Jul 2021 #25
Hey, she may already have those 2 or more subpoenas in hand and is just waiting for the first.... machoneman Jul 2021 #28
Kavanaugh ruined the pouty man-baby crying for them. Baitball Blogger Jul 2021 #27
Big man screaming at Pelosi but doesn't have the balls to scream at Trump on 1/6. Coward Pepsidog Jul 2021 #30
Ha! Nailed that one PortTack Jul 2021 #34
From what I heard, McCarthy was pleading with trump to get him to call it off Poiuyt Jul 2021 #61
I bet that was nothing compared to the assault McCarthy experienced from TFG. Hugin Jul 2021 #35
Ooo, tense, is he? Hekate Jul 2021 #37
tact and statesmanship bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #38
what i'd like to know is which one's got Russian money ??????? monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #39
This Dallas Morning News article never got the attention it deserved: OMGWTF Jul 2021 #57
thank's , that made my day !! very much appreciated!! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #58
I'll bet McCarthy got the worse end of that exchange. gulliver Jul 2021 #40
Well as her daughter said about the Speaker Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #60
I am very sure she must know... YoshidaYui Jul 2021 #42
They just wanted to make it a shit show spectacle. Screw 'em and Bravo Madame Speaker! Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #44
Anger is fear in translation. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2021 #45
Stand STRONG, Nancy! calimary Jul 2021 #47
Is There Any Justification for the Word "Unprecedented" Here? The Roux Comes First Jul 2021 #48
Jordan and Banks should be heard..................under oath. Marcuse Jul 2021 #49
they'd just lie their ass off till they get caught! nobody press the issues!! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #59
No more pardons for lying like Stone, Manafort, Flynn, etc. Marcuse Jul 2021 #62
you got dead square on the money !! good one !!! bullshit need's to stop now !! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #65
Kevin McCarthy: Days of not being a man-baby is 0. (nt) apnu Jul 2021 #51
A sore loser! Fritz Walter Jul 2021 #54
His screaming is his admission of guilt. Dawson Leery Jul 2021 #55
Good Going, Speaker Pelosi marieo1 Jul 2021 #56
And she never blinked. GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #63
Pelosi is presumably too classy to have responded to McCarthy, "Bite me, Bozo." n/t MrModerate Jul 2021 #64
got more class than the whole damn bunch !! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #67
Pelosi is not easily intimidated Progressive dog Jul 2021 #68
Misogynist, like most GQPers. He wouldn't dare treat a male spooky3 Jul 2021 #69
I doubt there were "raised voices" during there conversation. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2021 #70
Donald only asked for one little favor. kentuck Jul 2021 #71
Oh, go scream at a wall, asshole! Initech Jul 2021 #72
Tough guy on the phone. Nt BootinUp Jul 2021 #73
it literally says Gym Jordan? Skittles Jul 2021 #78
Stick a fucking ball gag in his pie hole Blue Owl Jul 2021 #79
Had a widdle temper tantrum did he? ananda Jul 2021 #83
McCarthy is truly truly a LOSER (and a complete moron, and a total asshole) LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #84
McCarthy: "I screwed you fair and square, Pelosi. How dare you hit back!" n/t MrModerate Jul 2021 #85
McCarthy's picks won't pass the smell test and the public knows it - Kev's cooked his own goose! /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #87
The bullies I've known all scream when they lose a "fight" lunatica Jul 2021 #90
Yikes! Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #91
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! WHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Takket Jul 2021 #92

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
2. When the GOP refuses to certify elections they lose and the House and Senate are taken over
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

and in chaos, the killing by the GOP will be massive.

They will kill as many of us as they can while they can.

By the time they take over, illegally or because voters are too stupid to know better, the delta variant will be rampant and between that and just straight up killing, it will be terrible.







If only people had supported Hillary...sigh

WA-03 Democrat

(3,058 posts)
9. I supported Hillary
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

The voting rights acts has to pass.

It’s not an option or sadly your prediction may happen.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
52. Yes, what is absolutely certain is the GOP no longer will even pretend to believe in democracy
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jul 2021

Elections they lose simply wont be certified if they control the process.

That's it, it is that simple.

And I cant tell you how FURIOUS I get when I make the point of the left trashing Hillary is how we lost than to have someone say otherwise knowing full god damn well how it happened. Not talking to you on this, you didnt say that, others did and I wont respond to them.

People NEVER learn I guess!


Of course putin is partly responsible, the POINT is when you have millions of people on the left trashing her 24-7 for 2 years and another candidate doing that as well, people will turn off to voting.

ShazzieB

(16,609 posts)
77. I agree with this 100%.
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 02:50 AM
Jul 2021

I was not hanging out at DU in 2016. I've had an account here since 2013, according to my profile, but I didn't become active at DU until 2020. In 2016, I was hanging out in a different online political community that was left leaning but aso mostly strongly anti-Hillary. It was awful. These same people who were anti-Hillary also claimed to hate Trump, but they didn't hate him enough to really get behind the only person on the planet who stood between him and the White House.

Nope, they just kept on bashing her all the way up till the election, talking about staying home on Election Day or voting for Jill Stein. Some of them claimed they (reluctantly) voted for her in the end, but I have my doubts. The sad truth is they really did hate Trump, but they hated Hillary almost as much, and their animosity toward her blinded them to just how horrible he was.

Then, as we know, he fucking won, and instead of saying "OMG, I should have supported Hillary," these same people blamed the DNC for nominating her, claiming she lost because she was a "shitty candidate."

So, anyway, I agree with everything you said, and your post really brought the whole thing back to me!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
36. If only Putin had kept his thumb off the scales.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jul 2021

We all know MF45 was an illegitimate president. In his heart of hearts MF45 knows it as well. Putin tilted the scales in three states, and that was enough for MF45 to slither in.

Last year we were waiting and watching for Putin's interference, and it didn't materialize. We can plainly see MF45 expected the same "assistance" last year, which is why he made (and is still making) such an adolescent tirade about losing.

Bottom line: no Putin in 2016, no MF45 in the White House. I'll go to my grave believing that.

The Roux Comes First

(1,300 posts)
46. Yes, WE All Know That
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

But you lost me when you swerved to "heart of hearts." I don't think any documentation has ever been uncovered of the existence of the latter, never mind the former.

intheflow

(28,516 posts)
43. People supported Clinton.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jul 2021

She won the popular vote, ffs. Seriously, time to get over the stolen 2016 election and focus on rebuilding what Trump destroyed, and also ensuring future elections and voting rights are protected.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
88. Glass? What glass?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 10:15 AM
Jul 2021


We are so far beyond even having a glass to be half empty.

Didnt have to happen though, it was folks on the LEFT who relentlessly BASHED Hillary to the point that hundreds of thousands, maybe millions didnt vote.

grumpyduck

(6,280 posts)
3. Sure, Kevin, that's the way for an
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

elected official to behave: like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum.

Asshole.

Ocelot II

(115,956 posts)
4. When your adversary starts screaming at you, you know he's lost the plot
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jul 2021

and you have the upper hand.

Advantage Pelosi.

True Blue American

(17,995 posts)
81. Kevin taking lessons from Gym
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 07:54 AM
Jul 2021

The wrestling coach assistant that covered child molesting for 7 years. A committee was voted on, passed overwhelmingly in Ohio. Gym’s Boehner made district covering half of Ohio will change.

Walleye

(31,135 posts)
6. Kevin was red-faced with hysteria. I laughed and laughed
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jul 2021

They’re really not used to being told no by a woman

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. What did you think was going to happen, Kevin?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

You named two picks that you knew would be unacceptable for the select committee, and the Speaker told you no. And now you're all butthurt about getting called on your shit? Grow the fuck up, you toddler.

ScratchCat

(2,017 posts)
16. Yeh, I don't get it
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jul 2021

How could he think Jordan and Banks would be allowed on the committee or how anyone could think the GOP members will be allowed to change the scope of the investigation from "January 6th" to "Pelosi" and "BLM"?

Bristlecone

(10,144 posts)
10. How is her rejecting those two clowns "unprecedented?"
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jul 2021

They refused to participate, voted against these hearings full stop, then crawled back when they were informed the show would continue with or without them. At that point, they we’re offered slots with a full disclosure on the right of refusal by the speaker. They chose clowns, they were refused. Not at all “unprecedented,” but rather predictable imo. She didn’t say no to all of them.

Midnight Writer

(21,841 posts)
20. What was "unprecedented" was appointing two members whose own actions should be investigated.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jul 2021

I'd like to see the cell phone records of Jordan and Banks in the period around the insurrection.

My bet is they were in the thick of it.

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
26. It is rare, based upon past House or even Senate commissions, for any selected member to be kicked..
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:40 PM
Jul 2021

..out. Merely history. But, Speaker Pelosi did the right thing and played her cards very well.

I'd never want to play her at poker, for sure!

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
11. It's so much political theater.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jul 2021

MKKK knew they would be rejected.
They knew they’d be rejected.
She told them she would reject them

Wow. Hissy fit over rejection.

I think with quiet Biden, the hissy fit is losing its affect. Instead of “fighting” it’s starting to look like tantrums.

NJCher

(35,807 posts)
53. tantrum
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 03:26 PM
Jul 2021
I think with quiet Biden, the hissy fit is losing its affect. Instead of “fighting” it’s starting to look like tantrums.

Simply changing one side of the equation ("I think with quiet Biden&quot , can do a lot. I doubt that republicans know this, but Biden definitely did.

When I teach interpersonal communication, we tell the students that just if just one member leaves a group, it can change the communication and psychological dynamics of that group. When something like that changes, the entire communication strategy has to be re-evaluated. It's the same with having one party acting like the adults and the other party playing to emotions.

Just yesterday I was observing that their tactics need a makeover. That is why I think McConnell and others came out for mask wearing.

I didn't think about the hissy fits looking like tantrums, but that's exactly what it does.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
74. But how do you teach the sane part how to act? Strikes
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:06 AM
Jul 2021

me that it would be to totally ignore and carry on with confidence. The absurdity should not be dealt with with an iota of credence.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
76. Without saying at all that a behavior or belief is absurd?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:21 AM
Jul 2021

I guess it's a step up from over explaining.

I always thought the best strategy was to laugh something off as absurd with a succinct one-liner on why. But to show no fluster.

nuxvomica

(12,459 posts)
12. Of course McCarthy gets nothing from Pelosi for screaming
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jul 2021

But reporting this out assures an audience of one that he's fighting back.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
15. He knew this was going to happen.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jul 2021

It's all part of the kabuki theater that could have been avoided by going straight to application of the law itself, allowing grand juries to determine the facts of the event in the process of adjudication. A "commission" just wastes time by providing opportunity for theater.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
17. This whole thing is
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jul 2021

another "trump production" meant to stir things up. McCarthy got his "orders" from trump on who to put on the committee, and he knew Pelosi wouldn't stand for the shit show Jordan would make out of the committee.

It all has to be approved by trump, and any republican that does not fall in line will face the wrath the orange one!

KS Toronado

(17,425 posts)
25. During Pelosi's statement when she was rejecting Gym Q Jordan & Jim Banks
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:31 PM
Jul 2021

Wish she would have said "Sorry, but we have subpoenas for these two people to look
into their roles in the Jan 6th insurrection"

machoneman

(4,016 posts)
28. Hey, she may already have those 2 or more subpoenas in hand and is just waiting for the first....
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jul 2021

...committee meeting to spring them. And wow, you thought childish Jordan and McCarthy were screaming befpre. Juts wait.

Maybe she's trying for McCarthy to bust a blood vessel and have an aneurism?

Poiuyt

(18,133 posts)
61. From what I heard, McCarthy was pleading with trump to get him to call it off
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 05:06 PM
Jul 2021

That's why he might be subpoenaed

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
35. I bet that was nothing compared to the assault McCarthy experienced from TFG.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

Ah, to have a bug on The Emperor of Florida's totally unsecured former tweet-o-phone.

gulliver

(13,198 posts)
40. I'll bet McCarthy got the worse end of that exchange.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jul 2021

McCarthy was probably just "uncomfortable" with Pelosi beating him like a drum.

The Roux Comes First

(1,300 posts)
48. Is There Any Justification for the Word "Unprecedented" Here?
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

It just seems like more weasily (no offense, those born as weasels) media wording that helps to normalize the authoritarian anti-democracy program of the right. Pelosi's right of veto has been publicly known ever since McKKKarthy rejected generous offers of a bipartisan investigation.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
56. Good Going, Speaker Pelosi
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jul 2021

I really like Speaker Pelosi...........all she is doing is what all of us 'normal' people want her to do!! Go Nancy......we are counting on you to keep us sane!!

GoodRaisin

(8,933 posts)
63. And she never blinked.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 05:18 PM
Jul 2021

When she selected Liz Cheney she put McCarthy in a box. He can't get away with screaming it's bipartisan. And, he's made himself look stupid with his own flip flopping.

He turned on Liz Cheney. Now it's her turn.

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

70. I doubt there were "raised voices" during there conversation.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 08:59 PM
Jul 2021

I can see McCarthy screaming and yelling. Knowing he's going to have to tell Dear Leader he's not going to get everything he wants has got to be terrifying.

I imagine on the Pelosi side of the phone call there was calm. When you know want you want, and your worth is not defined by the ravings of a lunatic, life is so much calmer.

Seriously, "I'll take all my members and go home," isn't the response of an adult. He knew what he was doing when he nominated the two Jims; he just didn't anticipate Nancy telling him (and by extension Fat Donnie) no.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
71. Donald only asked for one little favor.
Fri Jul 23, 2021, 09:38 PM
Jul 2021

Get Jim Jordan on that Committee for me.

And Kevin couldn't even do that.

I'll bet he was angry....and scared.

ananda

(28,892 posts)
83. Had a widdle temper tantrum did he?
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:11 AM
Jul 2021

And then took his toys out of the box...
only to be replaced by Pelosi's own.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
90. The bullies I've known all scream when they lose a "fight"
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:20 PM
Jul 2021

It’s their last stand and they don’t care if their spittle gets on you. I don’t doubt this story in the least.

Mike Nelson

(9,980 posts)
91. Yikes!
Sat Jul 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jul 2021

... she should stop taking his phone calls, and document this incident. He may be connected to the MAGA terrorists, and they have already threatened Pelosi.

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