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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFAA announces all passenger planes will be equipped with a "Karen Hatch". No more diverting
flights. If an unruly "Karen", or "Kevin" cannot be talked down, a parachute will be put on them and they will be ejected out the Karen Hatch. In a perfect world.
RainCaster
(10,872 posts)Of course, it's optional.
MLAA
(17,288 posts)Freedumbbbbbbbbbbbb! Splat!
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)brewens
(13,583 posts)IronLionZion
(45,441 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)...they actually wouldn't.
They'd hit 160 or so feet per second in 5 seconds, and would already fall 400 feet.
Then they fall another 4,000 feet in 25 seconds. They'd be down nearly a mile at that point.
That whole time the atmosphere is very oxygen lean, but not zero.
And they'd warm up quick as the fell.
Open the chute at 2 miles up, and they'd survive.
As to the cold, they wouldn't freeze to death, but part of the ejection plan could include a parka!
BTW: Alan Eustace jumped at 135,000 feet and pulled the chute at 2 miles. More than a 120,000 foot free fall! Admittedly, he was wearing what amounted to a space suit. But, jumps without O2 augmentation gave been done from 10 miles up. That's up there!
Botany
(70,504 posts)would be violent exit too. Some kind of airlock between the cabin and the "out door?"
The person would be sucked out of the plane into a low 02 very cold environment and then
they would have to free fall X # of feet before deploying his or her parachute. Lots of variables
here. I would think the exit from the plane would put the person into shock and they wouldn't
be able to open their parachute.
The only way to really know is to run multiple tests.
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)Multiple tests!!!
Botany
(70,504 posts)Besides where would the person "leave" the plane from? Would the person be hit by the jet's
"wind stream?" Would the person get bounced off the plane's body or tail wings? And even if
the person is able to free fall 15,000 to 20,000 feet before deploying his or her parachute what about
the landing zone? Trees, bodies of water, roads, cactus*, bear dens, and God forbid landing in Oklahoma
things could be tough.
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ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)Without special clothing & technique, the human body only moves 160 something MPH in air.
The body would go from 550 to 160 in under a couple seconds. 200+ mph/second is about 10g.
Survivable but, quite the shock to the system, already under stress.
I think another tough landing spot would be over one of the Great Lakes! Better be a GOOD swimmer, too!
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)Not to be too gruesome, but I've seen pictures of crash sites with bodies where planes broke up in flight & they're all completely naked. In one case (might have been the Malaysia Airlines flight shot down over Ukraine in 2014?) there were even 2 passengers still buckled into their seats, who appeared to be naked or mostly so. The issue is that when you exit a plane travelling around 550 mph the force of the wind is extreme & it rips everything off.
Again, not trying to be gruesome, that's just the reality.
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)...a definite problem.
People aren't aerodynamic like a plane.
But, I think the g forces would be worse than the temporary oxygen deficiency.
Besides, I was kidding around!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)no protective gear? Or at least completely lose consciousness?
ProfessorGAC
(65,021 posts)I might!
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)In the book, the Mobile Infantry was dropped from outer space. They put the "apes" in little capsules, hence the nickname "cap troopers," and fired them out of a tube on the spaceship. That would work with Karens too.
Rebl2
(13,501 posts)the Karen/Kevin reference.
Keep up with the Karens and Kevins! Its awesome, it upsets entitled people and people whos rod up their butt must have a rod up its butt!
Rebl2
(13,501 posts)I am saying is quit using the names Karen/Kevin. I prefer to call them trumps terrorists. How about that. Is that better?
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Kidding.
not kidding
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)Let her ride it out there.
Angleae
(4,482 posts)747/767/777 and I assume 787 all have a hatch that lead to the main electronics compartment which has a door to the forward cargo bay.
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)Right wingers fear everything. So if they fear a trip to the hole, it will be incentive for them to cut the crap.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)the Koch brothers or someone need to set up a charter system to move unvaxxed unmasked "freedom" flights with flight crews that agree death is preferable to vaccines.
You had my hopes up. I thought they were gonna have some kind of mini-closet where they could stuff them in, after they are duct-taped on their wrists, ankles, and mouth, and just slam the hatch closed. Then the flight could continue without turning around or having to do an emergency landing.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)they should never be allowed to screw up other people's plans