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THIS (Original Post) vercetti2021 Jul 2021 OP
I hate that this is true demtenjeep Jul 2021 #1
I'm with you. I hate that it is true, but it is. nt Biophilic Jul 2021 #10
Agreed. It's grim. nt crickets Jul 2021 #18
Self-proclaimed Xtians who failed Sunday School. haele Jul 2021 #2
More like vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #3
Self-proclaimed christians passed Prosperity Gospel Sunday school, know mantra: "hands off my stack" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #5
TBF all Christians... AnrothElf Jul 2021 #23
Except for Picts. haele Jul 2021 #24
and without the moral compass that religions claim you can't have without religion. rurallib Jul 2021 #4
No empathy? paleotn Jul 2021 #6
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #19
They were given somebody to hate lunatica Jul 2021 #7
Let em hate vercetti2021 Jul 2021 #8
As a Feminist from way back I welcome their hate too lunatica Jul 2021 #25
They are creatures of light that lack love. patphil Jul 2021 #9
Their light ain't so effin' bright, either. soldierant Jul 2021 #17
Agree Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #11
Empathy is either developed, or not, in the first three years of life. vanlassie Jul 2021 #12
+100!! KT2000 Jul 2021 #15
Developing empathy is a lifelong process. meadowlander Jul 2021 #21
This is not my understanding. There has been a large body of work vanlassie Jul 2021 #22
30% of the people in this country are not clinically diagnosable as sociopaths meadowlander Jul 2021 #28
Sociopath is the word I think fits best. vanlassie Jul 2021 #30
Sounds about right. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #13
That explains a lot KT2000 Jul 2021 #14
And they vote republican...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #16
Rushbo claimed to be a "Christian expert". czarjak Jul 2021 #20
K&r Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #26
back about 1959, after attending church, I heard a guy say that he heard a old woman demigoddess Jul 2021 #27
Where's this from??? calimary Jul 2021 #29

haele

(12,654 posts)
2. Self-proclaimed Xtians who failed Sunday School.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:10 PM
Jul 2021

Somehow, all those songs and lessons about the Golden Rule, Faith, Hope, and Charity didn't stick; all they got out of it was "Jesus thinks I'm special and the rest of y'all belong in Hell if you disagree."

Haele

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. They were given somebody to hate
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:26 PM
Jul 2021

Us. Liberals, women, Black people. Everyone who they dream offends them for showing off or being better or different than they are.it’s in the tyrant how to handbook.

Watch How to be a tyrant on Netflix. I highly recommend it. It’s excellent and incredibly timely.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
8. Let em hate
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:31 PM
Jul 2021

Harder to kill what you hate IMO. As a transwoman. I like being the pain in the ass for them. I like triggering them.

patphil

(6,176 posts)
9. They are creatures of light that lack love.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jul 2021

Light without love brings forth darkness.
Light without love is self-absorbed.
Light without love is incapable of compassion, empathy, understanding.
It sees itself as an end in itself.
It doesn't care about anyone else.

soldierant

(6,874 posts)
17. Their light ain't so effin' bright, either.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 10:44 PM
Jul 2021

To misquote C. S. Lewis, they're looking at it through a dirty lens.

vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
12. Empathy is either developed, or not, in the first three years of life.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 07:24 PM
Jul 2021

Lack of empathy is sociopathy. Failure to meet basic needs from 1-3 years risks failure to develop empathy. Parents who are lacking in empathy create kids lacking empathy. Republicanism is a character flaw.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
21. Developing empathy is a lifelong process.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 01:31 AM
Jul 2021

Missing out on it from your parents makes it a lot harder to develop later, but we are all always capable of developing our skills in empathy and applying it to a broader range of people.

The problem with Republicans is that they surround themselves with a culture that values selfishness and personal status more than empathy. And over the last 40 years, it's become increasingly easier for them to shut out any opposing viewpoints and find more and more people who validate their worst impulses.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
28. 30% of the people in this country are not clinically diagnosable as sociopaths
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 03:06 PM
Jul 2021

(which hasn't been a clinical diagnosis for decades btw - the large body of work your referencing is examining anti-social personality disorder). At best less than 1% of the population has ASPD.

So that leaves 29% who are capable of developing empathy but haven't to the extent possible due to poor parenting and/or other personality disorders.

And I'm sorry, but anybody who has actually been a child or spent any time at all with them can see that their capacity for empathy, along with everything else, develops as they get older and more mature. There isn't a window from 1-3 where you either develop empathy or not and if you don't you can never get better at it. I tortured ants and made my brother cry for fun and pointed out peoples' weight and disabilities in front of a crowd when I was in kindergarten and then I grew up and stopped doing those things.

It's a skill, like language. In cases of extreme abuse and neglect, if children are exposed to no language at all before the age of 10 or so, it becomes impossible for them to develop it but for 99.999999% of kids some are exposed to more language and some less in their window for developing it. The ones exposed to less language as kids may fall behind in school but they can study and get better throughout their whole lives.

Ditto empathy. Maybe less than 1% of kids are so extremely abused or neglected as kids that they miss the window to develop any empathy at all. But you're letting 29% of Trump voters off the hook by saying their lack of empathy is just the way they were born and that there's nothing anybody can do about it. Before they were brainwashed by Fox some Trump voters voted for Democrats. A lot of them have empathy - it's just that it's only directed to white people like themselves. If they've developed that much, they can learn to get better at empathy and apply it to people not like themselves.



vanlassie

(5,670 posts)
30. Sociopath is the word I think fits best.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 05:46 PM
Jul 2021

I most definitely did NOT say it is just how they were born. It is the result of neglect of true needs in the first three years. This information is available. I’m not going to debate it further here. You think otherwise.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
14. That explains a lot
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 08:19 PM
Jul 2021

The exuberance of these people then makes sense. They cannot seem to keep their lack of feelings for others to themselves. They have had to hide their hate for so long they are feeling free now to express themselves. That must be why they have to repeat themselves, interrupt strangers, and turn every conversation into one of hate and resentment.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
27. back about 1959, after attending church, I heard a guy say that he heard a old woman
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 02:24 PM
Jul 2021

in a nearby town was an atheist and he thought "maybe we should go over and beat her up, maybe kill her". Christians didn't become this way just recently.

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