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global1

(25,242 posts)
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 02:27 PM Aug 2021

It Really Scares Me That There Are Americans Plotting To Overthrow Our Democracy....

and a lot of them are in government or have worked in government.

What's with this so called 'cabinet meeting with TFG' that Meadows was talking a about?

What about the meetings and planning that went on before that led to the 1/6 insurrection?

What about all the changing of history about this insurrection? What we saw in real time is not what happened. These were tourists not terrorists.

Sure - tourists always travel with 'bear spray'. (sarcasm)

What is really going on behind the scenes?

Why are they trying to bring us down? Don't they realize that they, their families, friends, colleagues will have to deal with the aftermath that they create?

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It Really Scares Me That There Are Americans Plotting To Overthrow Our Democracy.... (Original Post) global1 Aug 2021 OP
Although we are teetering on a knife's edge leftieNanner Aug 2021 #1
Why? malaise Aug 2021 #2
Amen, Malaise, Amen!! 7wo7rees Aug 2021 #4
And There It Is FrankTC Aug 2021 #9
Sad but true n/t malaise Aug 2021 #11
My Fatalistic Attitude... JustFiveMoreMinutes Aug 2021 #3
I know, I'm about done, too, but I'd like my great grand kids (2 so far; 2 and 3) to know Democracy. rickyhall Aug 2021 #7
Power is a drug. Pantagruel Aug 2021 #5
They had a shot on Jan 6 because Trump was president and he was undermining any resistance ... Jim__ Aug 2021 #6
I'm Not As Worried About Another Insurrection As I Am About The Cheating And.... global1 Aug 2021 #8
Like the 9/11 terrorists, they think they're right. Cinnamonspice Aug 2021 #10
My Fatalistic Attitude... JustFiveMoreMinutes Aug 2021 #12

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
1. Although we are teetering on a knife's edge
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

And have been for a while, I think this "cabinet meeting" BS is all about fluffing TFG's fragile ego. He still wants to pretend to be President (especially since he never did the actual job when he was in the White House).

So far, the other side has a lot of stupid and inept people. They tried with the coup on January 6th and failed.

We must be vigilant always, but there are some safeguards still in place.

I don't recall which wonderful DUer said it - but "The Judiciary Will Hold" is something I'm clinging to every day.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
2. Why?
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 02:34 PM
Aug 2021

Did you think that Americans would not learn from their own governments about overthrowing democracies in other countries and working with corrupt, murderous dictators for the US agenda - aka the agenda of big oil.

Many are using the same arguments - they do not think all humans are equal - they alone have rights.
You cannot support democracy at home and dictatorship that suits your agenda overseas.
Until enough Americans understand that you will be no safer than the rest of us.

What makes it worse now is that the ReTHUG political party in the US is actively supporting voter suppression at home while chatting shit about freedom for Cuba.



FrankTC

(210 posts)
9. And There It Is
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:57 PM
Aug 2021

The commitment to democracy at home is fragile among the corporate and financial elite, and probably not just the oilogarchs but among apex predator capitalists more generally. But we can’t just say R-word R-word R-word, because international democracy suppression happens under Democratic administrations as well as Republican. We complain for example that George W lied us into the Iraqi war, but Lyndon Johnson lied us into the Viet Nam War (via the Gulf of Tonkin resolution). One of Trump’s more popular promises (not saying bankable) was no more foreign wars.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
3. My Fatalistic Attitude...
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 02:35 PM
Aug 2021

I'm 65yo. I've lived in the best years of American life.. IMHO.

WHATever is happening isn't up to me any more but the burden rests on the next generation.
It is their future, not mine.

Sad

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
5. Power is a drug.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 02:49 PM
Aug 2021

" Don't they realize that they, their families, friends, colleagues will have to deal with the aftermath that they create?"

Telling a junkie the drug is bad for them has no effect.


Jim__

(14,075 posts)
6. They had a shot on Jan 6 because Trump was president and he was undermining any resistance ...
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

... to the insurrection. I don't think they have any shot this August. Joe Biden is president and, hopefully, he is prepared for anything they might try. I absolutely believe the military will back Biden.

Their next real opportunity will be the presidential election of 2024. They will definitely try to steal the election and if they succeed, that will be the end of our democracy.

global1

(25,242 posts)
8. I'm Not As Worried About Another Insurrection As I Am About The Cheating And....
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:20 PM
Aug 2021

voter suppression activities being fostered now for Repugs to win the upcoming elections in 2022 and 2024.

The Repugs have worked very diligently - planning how they would cheat to steal the upcoming elections.

This is the plotting that really scares me.

I'm of the belief that TFG was assured that he would win re-election because they thought that they had the cheating and voter suppression in the bag.

This is why I believe that TFG believes that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

The American People came out in droves to overcome any cheating and suppression that the Repugs had in place and he lost fair and square.

It was a surprise to TFG and to the Repugs.

Cinnamonspice

(163 posts)
10. Like the 9/11 terrorists, they think they're right.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 04:02 PM
Aug 2021

And they think whatever evil government they create will be good and that God will protect them.

Also, they don't want to vaccinate, social distance, or wear masks. Let's see how many can make it to the revolution this month. I know men with as much as a cold can be whiny babies.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
12. My Fatalistic Attitude...
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 05:58 PM
Aug 2021

I'm 65yo. I've lived in the best years of American life.. IMHO.

WHATever is happening isn't up to me any more but the burden rests on the next generation.
It is their future, not mine.

Sad

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