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OAITW r.2.0

(24,610 posts)
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:46 PM Aug 2021

Can a State impose more restrictive screening for certain States that

don't seem to be dealing with COVID effectively? Like Florida, for instance. Could a State demand proof of vax or quarantine before allowing said Floridians to have access to said States. Or would a federal framework need to be established?

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Can a State impose more restrictive screening for certain States that (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 OP
Sure. Vermont did during earlier times karynnj Aug 2021 #1
Not all that relevant. Igel Aug 2021 #4
I believe that they were in effect for much of a year (split between 2020/2021) karynnj Aug 2021 #5
Why not? I think the Fed courts would back them up. marble falls Aug 2021 #2
Yes, the states can absolutely block entry. roamer65 Aug 2021 #3
Isnt Merrick Garland suing Texas to prevent them from blocking people from Mexico with Covid? MichMan Aug 2021 #6
I think a year ago Florida didn't want New Yorkers fleeing Raine Aug 2021 #7

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
1. Sure. Vermont did during earlier times
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:50 PM
Aug 2021

I think NY did too and later they treated neighboring states differently.

Igel

(35,359 posts)
4. Not all that relevant.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

"What is, is legal" isn't all that useful. The restrictions were short-lived; anybody who would have tried to get standing to contest them would have quickly found their cases tossed as moot when the restrictions were lifted. Short-term injunctions might have been granted, but showing sufficient loss to merit an injunction would have been difficult.

There was differential outrage and indignation here when one state imposed restrictions (or required quarantine, hardly enforced on the traveler), and justification when another state, for the same reason, imposed the same restrictions. So attitudes and from-the-hip responses are sketchy.

There's some Federal case law guaranteeing freedom of travel between states; it was a right given in the Articles of Confederation, not in the Constitution (but then again, most assume it was deemed unnecessary given the tighter relationship between states). I'd argue that it would be a right assumed since guaranteeing natural rights by not limiting them was what the Constitution was all about, with the Bill of Rights deemed a mere spelling out of some of the more prominent rights that a citizen had by virtue of being a human (with all due caveats for limitations on women and the not-free or unpropertied), which the government didn't provide but merely was to not limit. But all rights are subject to "compelling state interest" restrictions.

Courts have been hesitant to overrule restrictions on travel or commerce when they involve public health, and for that there are a number of cases. As long as the travel restriction was based on established state interest and based on reasonable criteria, limited in time and extent, then I doubt a judge would do more than toss out the case.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
5. I believe that they were in effect for much of a year (split between 2020/2021)
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 05:17 PM
Aug 2021

They did not say that people , could not come, but from most states, but a 14 day quarantine even for returning Vermonters, was required or the results of a negative test after arriving. This was first waived if fully vaccinated.

Friends who recently went to Hawaii needed tests before they could get on the plane to Hawaii - even though fully vaccinated. I think that just ended.

As to if these regulations were legal, I read nothing on them being successfully challenged.

MichMan

(11,974 posts)
6. Isnt Merrick Garland suing Texas to prevent them from blocking people from Mexico with Covid?
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:01 PM
Aug 2021

Obviously that isn't blocking people from a particular state, but would seem to be comparable.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
7. I think a year ago Florida didn't want New Yorkers fleeing
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 09:10 PM
Aug 2021

there. I don't know if they were very successful or not, I kind of doubt it.

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