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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:54 PM Aug 2021

Brian Stelter Slams 'Sensationalist' Headlines About COVID-19 Infections Among Vaccinated People

Brian Stelter says its time for the media to seriously reflect on how it is covering the new surge in COVID-19 cases, criticizing “sensationalist headlines” surrounding vaccinated people getting infected with COVID-19 that don’t provide the proper context.

“It is, as so many public health officials have said, a ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated,'” Stelter said on Sunday during his broadcast’s opening monologue. “So the news coverage needs to reflect that.”

But Stelter said that the media, instead, focuses too much on covering cases of people who got COVID-19 despite being vaccinated, even though CDC data shows that vaccinated people only account for 0.004% of hospitalizations in the country and 0.001% of deaths.

As an example, he compared headlines from the Washington Post and the New York Post. On the NY Post’s front page, a graph of squares was shown representing the 161 million Americans that have been vaccinated. Of them, only about 1,150 have died, a total marked with a red square so small it had to be magnified. The Washington Post, meanwhile, ran a headline about a town in Massachusetts where 75% of new cases were among vaccinated people, but did not note until the end that only a precious few of those cases led to hospitalizations.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/brian-stelter-slams-sensationalist-headlines-190152002.html

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Brian Stelter Slams 'Sensationalist' Headlines About COVID-19 Infections Among Vaccinated People (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 OP
disappointed with the Washington Post Skittles Aug 2021 #1
Yes. They let the NY Post out perform them on this one. Blue_true Aug 2021 #2
Me too! If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem PortTack Aug 2021 #3
I had to look up Brian Stelter since I didn't know who he is. Now I do. abqtommy Aug 2021 #4
Great comment YMBL nc DENVERPOPS Aug 2021 #5
I'm with Stelter on this. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #6
+1 Deminpenn Aug 2021 #10
You really need to dig deep into the recent covid news articles to find someone saying that Poiuyt Aug 2021 #7
That was an interesting op-ed by Wen Deminpenn Aug 2021 #9
That vaccinated-to-vaccinated spread is really small, and unvaxed Hortensis Aug 2021 #21
You're very welcome Poiuyt Aug 2021 #22
+100. Hortensis Aug 2021 #23
It is significant enough for mask wearing and social distancing LeftInTX Aug 2021 #24
So glad about the children, and that your daughter's fine. Hortensis Aug 2021 #26
I've seen bullshit alarmist claims here on DU Kali Aug 2021 #8
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2021 #13
The Albuquerque Journal was guilty of this. But they are owned by republicans. Go figure. triron Aug 2021 #11
Ironically, the figures in this article are wrong muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #12
If it was ten times that much its still miniscule relative to the unvaccinated. Vaccinated are not uponit7771 Aug 2021 #14
The true figure, from the beginning of the pandemic, is 0.188% muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #15
+1 Celerity Aug 2021 #16
It turns out they took the figures for "what happened among all people vaccinated" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #18
so, hes a dr. now eh? AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #17
I agree. Headlines regarding breakthrough infections have been horrible...n Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #19
Yeah the fearmongering is insane. Initech Aug 2021 #20
No journalist who hasn't passed basic statistics should be allowed to use statistics at all. gulliver Aug 2021 #25

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. I had to look up Brian Stelter since I didn't know who he is. Now I do.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 10:33 PM
Aug 2021

"Brian Patrick Stelter (born September 3, 1985) is an American television anchor who is the chief media correspondent for CNN and host of the CNN program Reliable Sources. Stelter is a former media reporter for The New York Times and the editor of TVNewser. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Stelter

Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
7. You really need to dig deep into the recent covid news articles to find someone saying that
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:10 AM
Aug 2021

the chance of vaccinated to vaccinated transmission is really small.

I just saw this and got a kick out of it:

"We know that the vast majority of the spread is still by unvaccinated people. And I think that that is the part that's been lost in the messaging from the CDC," said Dr. Leana Wen, visiting professor at George Washington University's Milken Institute School of Public Health.

"The problem is not with the vaccinated. The problem remains with the unvaccinated. And the way that we can get out of this pandemic is to increase vaccination rates," she said.

"So the CDC should actually be saying, 'Look, the reason we're doing indoor mandates is because the unvaccinated cannot be trusted to put on masks. That's why the vaccinated also have to be putting on masks.'"


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
9. That was an interesting op-ed by Wen
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:44 PM
Aug 2021

The CDC messaging has left something to be desired that's for sure. These couple of studies of outbreaks in MA and WI claiming vaccinated people are as infections as unvaccinated are the cover CDC is using so they don't have to say what Wen says (bolded above), but ymmv.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. That vaccinated-to-vaccinated spread is really small, and unvaxed
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 03:41 PM
Aug 2021

people are still the big transmission vector, is not something I'd picked up on in all the noise about vaccinated people getting infected. Definitely worth pointing out in discussion about containing and ending this pandemic. Thanks, Poiuyt.

LeftInTX

(25,316 posts)
24. It is significant enough for mask wearing and social distancing
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 06:13 PM
Aug 2021

I don't believe we need to panic, but I had started to go back to my pre-covid routine. Now, I'm pretty much back to covid.

Mild covid is probably not fun......

My daughter caught from someone unvaccinated. She was fine, but she works with developmentally disabled children. She had to do contact tracing and had to live with "what if". Fortunately, the kids did not catch it. (She only had contact with 4 clients, which helped)

Being "all open" puts a monkey wrench in everything.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. So glad about the children, and that your daughter's fine.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:14 AM
Aug 2021

We're back to pre-vax precautions also. My husband has to continue physical therapy but is now wearing N-95s for his sessions. That said, our nation seems to have hit an inflection point with delta on top of vaccines, and attitudes are changing fast, empowering more control. Thank goodness.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
12. Ironically, the figures in this article are wrong
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:01 AM
Aug 2021

"CDC data shows that vaccinated people only account for 0.004% of hospitalizations in the country and 0.001% of deaths"

0.001% is one hundred thousandth. But if 1,150 vaccinated people have died (and that figure does seem roughly correct), then that would mean 115,000,000 people have died in total. Clearly that's wrong, even if they were talking about total deaths since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020.

Whatever the actual figure is (over what period is it 'fair' to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated deaths? Completed vaccinations built up over 2021, saying "vaccinated people only account for 0.001% of deaths" is hugely misleading.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
14. If it was ten times that much its still miniscule relative to the unvaccinated. Vaccinated are not
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:28 AM
Aug 2021

... near the risk that the unvaccinated and there are too many headlines and even post on DU suggesting that we are.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
15. The true figure, from the beginning of the pandemic, is 0.188%
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 05:38 AM
Aug 2021

So that's one hundred and eighty eight times as much. If you just take the deaths in 2021 (when vaccination started), it's 0.44% - four hundred and forty times as much. The article has completely screwed up its figures, which is incredibly stupid when the writer wants to criticise other parts of the media.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
18. It turns out they took the figures for "what happened among all people vaccinated"
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 09:50 AM
Aug 2021

and said those are the proportions of vaccinated hospitalization or death among the total hospitalization or death.

So they turned "1 in 100,000 vaccinated people have died from Covid" into "1 in 100,000 people who have died from Covid were vaccinated".

Figures used properly here: https://www.axios.com/chart-vaccinated-americans-delta-covid-cases-b93710e3-cfc1-4248-9c33-474b00947a90.html

Wounded Bear

(58,653 posts)
19. I agree. Headlines regarding breakthrough infections have been horrible...n
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 09:57 AM
Aug 2021

Hyperventilating over the miniscule number of breakthrough infections may sell papers and get clicks, but it doesn't help public health efforts to get jabs in arms.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
20. Yeah the fearmongering is insane.
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 03:35 PM
Aug 2021

The sad thing is that it gives more fuel for the anti-vaxxers and the morons to run amok.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
25. No journalist who hasn't passed basic statistics should be allowed to use statistics at all.
Tue Aug 3, 2021, 06:27 PM
Aug 2021

They absolutely ruin every statistic they touch.

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