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Well, well, well, look who had an affair outside of his marriage...Ken Starr. (Original Post) Archae Aug 2021 OP
K& big R#5 UTUSN Aug 2021 #1
You Faux pas Aug 2021 #2
And he was driven out of his univ. president's job because of mishandling spooky3 Aug 2021 #3
Evidence Also Suggests... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #42
ITA Nt spooky3 Aug 2021 #45
It never fails malaise Aug 2021 #44
He's slime. A misogynist as well as a hypocrite and suck up to spooky3 Aug 2021 #46
I hate ken starr with the burning fire of a thousand suns. calimary Aug 2021 #53
Like other roaches, there are plenty of others around when you see one. Nt spooky3 Aug 2021 #54
It's true, isn't it? smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #60
I did not know this. too bad it didn't seem to stain his career msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #65
Ewwwwwwwwww ... (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #4
These guys were all jealous of Clinton. JI7 Aug 2021 #5
His moral hypocrisy is up there with Newt Gingrich. BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #6
DOWN there with Newt Gingrich. calimary Aug 2021 #7
How true! BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #9
Yes he does. Serving his wife divorce papers in the hospital. CVS drugs is Starrs uncle CV Starr. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #66
+1000 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #49
He was a political operator agincourt Aug 2021 #8
The only surprise in this is that Starr was able to find a woman Raine Aug 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2021 #26
Beat me to it! smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #61
Haven't you heard? IOIYAR! 🤗 ShazzieB Aug 2021 #11
Haven't you heard? IOIYAR! 🤗 ShazzieB Aug 2021 #12
Phony assed pieces of shit, all of them. Nt Baked Potato Aug 2021 #13
You mean there are moonscape Aug 2021 #14
Excellent review of history, well written. Shrike47 Aug 2021 #15
Ken Starr, Brett Kavanaugh, Jeffrey Epstein and Me dalton99a Aug 2021 #16
Ug, reading all that made me sick to my stomach. SunSeeker Aug 2021 #19
Sickening. progressoid Aug 2021 #23
Ken Starr and Jeffrey Epstein DESERVED one another. Paladin Aug 2021 #31
There are words to describe judi's enabling of that sick, twisted, hypocritical f***, but I niyad Aug 2021 #32
Good God I just read about the Idaho Rep Priscilla Giddings 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #50
I feel like... smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #62
How would that piece of garbage lard ever find someone to have an affair with? C Moon Aug 2021 #17
Well, he's hardly alone... Grokenstein Aug 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #21
Money is a strong aphrodisiac. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #22
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac" Nasruddin Aug 2021 #63
it is STILL ok if your a republican RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #20
Remember all the Republican tears and wnylib Aug 2021 #30
I distinctly remember Sonny Bono's wife kskiska Aug 2021 #43
What did the Trump supporters tell wnylib Aug 2021 #48
Oh I distinctly remember Diaper David Vitter's wife 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #51
I remember the look on her face during her "stand by your man" video. A blast from the past: Marcuse Aug 2021 #58
Interesting NJCher Aug 2021 #24
"Starr had taken my hand and placed it on his crotch...." Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #25
Way, way, waaaaaay TMI. 3catwoman3 Aug 2021 #59
Okay, that requires mind bleach to get rid of in my head. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #27
Misogyny, hypocrisy and privilege Alice Kramden Aug 2021 #28
+1 spooky3 Aug 2021 #47
Republican "values" in action Champp Aug 2021 #29
The entire Republican Party is held together by blackmail. hunter Aug 2021 #33
Close, but no cigar. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #34
How can you wage culture war when your warriors are hypocrites and reprobates? Marcuse Aug 2021 #35
hem. and they fried bill clinton with endless hearings and we lost al franken for this ? AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #36
You note that Anthony Wiener never touched the girl, it was phone sex, he went to the slammer rather 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #52
nevermind , those people are rs. nothing to see here . move on. AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #55
I predict that in a few years, there will be a severe housing shortage in Hades. 70sEraVet Aug 2021 #37
It's not really much of a surprise that sanctimonious Kenny is a total hypocrite. Brother Mythos Aug 2021 #38
With WHO??!! 🤢🤢🤮🤮 live love laugh Aug 2021 #39
Judi Hershman soldierant Aug 2021 #68
It was never about Clinton's infidelity, morality or ability to perform his duties Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #40
It was the beginning of their assault on our elected officials which continues unabated. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #69
Who is the sad sack lady of the lowlands who is separate enough to 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #41
He's a low life seta1950 Aug 2021 #56
He was also demoted then quit Baylor University for covering up a rape. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #57
Isn't he connected to I Love Beer Kavanaugh? UpInArms Aug 2021 #64
Show us on the doll where Ken Starr touched you Blue Owl Aug 2021 #67

spooky3

(34,444 posts)
3. And he was driven out of his univ. president's job because of mishandling
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 12:40 AM
Aug 2021

Sexual harassment and assault complaints.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
42. Evidence Also Suggests...
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 03:17 PM
Aug 2021

...actual rapes were covered up.
He never should have been given that position, then he disgraced the university.
What a punk.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
60. It's true, isn't it?
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:34 PM
Aug 2021

Look all the moralizing "Christians" on the right. I have a feeling if you did just a little bit of digging, you would end up finding mountains of dirt.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
65. I did not know this. too bad it didn't seem to stain his career
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:19 PM
Aug 2021

mf'er still able to swim in the same pool with the best of the slime balls in the media..

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
8. He was a political operator
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:05 AM
Aug 2021

who was part of the scheme to make Newt Gringrich president. He got waaaay too much respect in 1998 and to some degree still does.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
10. The only surprise in this is that Starr was able to find a woman
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:12 AM
Aug 2021

other then his wife to do the nasty with.

Response to Raine (Reply #10)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
61. Beat me to it!
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:37 PM
Aug 2021

Seriously, I don't understand how so many of these repulsive ugly, fat, old right-wingers manage to find a willing partner - that they don't have to pay. It's not even like they have any other redeeming attractive qualities to make up for it. They are just all-around disgusting pigs.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
14. You mean there are
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:35 AM
Aug 2021

two women who actually agreed to have sex with him? Hmmm... maybe it wasn’t consentual.

dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
16. Ken Starr, Brett Kavanaugh, Jeffrey Epstein and Me
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:48 AM
Aug 2021
https://medium.com/@judihershman/ken-starr-brett-kavanaugh-jeffrey-epstein-and-me-ba2dbf77b0da

Ken Starr, Brett Kavanaugh, Jeffrey Epstein and Me


Ken Starr and Judi Hershman

I had been on the bike trip through Tuscany in 2009. Early one evening while our spouses were at dinner elsewhere, Starr had stepped out from the shadows of the grounds of the inn where we were staying and called me over. After expressing his feelings for me, he pulled me into an embrace. This was the beginning of a fond, consensual affair that I had every intention of taking to the grave, even if it probably wasn’t an accident that I chose O’Brien of all my friends on that Croatia trip to send my text to during the Kavanaugh hearings. When I had drawn back from that first kiss in Italy, I noticed that O’Brien was looking at us from the balcony above. Though I can’t be sure O’Brien could see that Starr had taken my hand and placed it on his crotch, there can be little doubt that he saw the kiss Starr had initiated. And when I expressed to Ken my horror at having been observed, he had said, “It’s O.K., he understands.” Nine years later, I was reasonably sure O’Brien would relay my text message to Starr. ...

There was the time in January 2010 when I saw him in California — he was then dean of the Pepperdine University School of Law — and he asked me, if on my next visit to South Florida, I could extend myself to counsel a “very wealthy, very smart businessman who got himself into trouble for getting involved with a couple of underage girls who lied about their ages.” I confess I did not recognize Jeffrey Epstein’s name at the time, but I knew what statutory rape was and I couldn’t understand why Ken Starr would be involved with him. “Is this a church thing?” I asked. “Are you trying to ‘cure’ him? Why would you do this!” It did not occur to me that he might have been part of the legal team that executed a secret and egregious sweetheart deal for the convicted pedophile or that the stickler for details I knew Starr to be might be grossly undercounting the victims in question. “Everyone deserves representation, Judi,” he said, adding, “He promised to keep it above 18 from now on.” According to an alleged victim statement after the fact, the middle-aged, child molestor, Jeffrey Epstein, did not keep his sex with girls above the age of 18. ...

Our affair ran its course after a year or so of occasional encounters and a steady exchange of affectionate texts and emails. No fireworks, no drama. I remained his adviser and supporter and he mine and we continued to talk frequently. Later, when I was living and working in Texas, I tried to help him weather his beleaguered tenure at Baylor and then in 2016, when he was fired as a result of a rape scandal involving the college football team, I ran interference for him as best I could. It was a an interview I watched in 2020 with one of Baylor’s aggrieved accusers that helped me understand how I could have been blind for so long to the pattern of misogyny coursing through Starr’s career. Describing a meeting with Starr about her ordeal, she said that he shed a tear along with her, made her feel heard, but did nothing to help get justice for her or the many other female students who came forward with allegations. Unless you count what he said in one interview, “We grieve for what happened. But that doesn’t mean that you can’t say it’s a new day. That’s the biblical perspective that we try to live up to here at Baylor University.” Shamelessly and effectively, he shoved rape allegations under the carpet in the name of Christianity.

It took me 20 years to pull my head out of the proverbial sand, but I can see clearly now all the harm Ken Starr has done from the 1990s and now beyond as he reaches for Mike Pence’s presumed coattails. Seeing him lend his practiced piety to a president who lies so much that he was considered by his previous lawyers to be a walking perjury machine along with his sanctimonious “Religious Liberty in Crisis” campaign that he is presently stumping around the country, has made my story suddenly feel urgent. It’s not just the hypocrisy, it’s the damage Starr’s sham moral authority has done to — our nation, to our people, and remember those children his client separated from their parents and put in cages at the border?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
19. Ug, reading all that made me sick to my stomach.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:06 AM
Aug 2021

My God, what scumbags they are, and so.much alike: Starr and Kavanagh.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
31. Ken Starr and Jeffrey Epstein DESERVED one another.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:04 PM
Aug 2021

And Starr's coverup of the Baylor rape incidents is a vile mark on that university's reputation that will last a long time. What an odious little man.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
32. There are words to describe judi's enabling of that sick, twisted, hypocritical f***, but I
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:14 PM
Aug 2021

will not assault anyone's sensibilities here.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
50. Good God I just read about the Idaho Rep Priscilla Giddings
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 04:40 PM
Aug 2021

that doxxed a rape victim and is hoping the good ole boy network will let her be Lt. Governor, now we have Ken Starr finding the Biblical excuse for Jeffrey Epstein. Uh, may there be a hell for these douchers to burn in. Oh, and maybe it's my age, or maybe I am a social clueless wonder........how many respectful loving relationships start with having your hand forced to someone's crotch? I thought these things started with a witty remark, a sweet smile and a tender look in the eye.

Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
18. Well, he's hardly alone...
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:04 AM
Aug 2021

Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Donald Trump, Donald's sons, countless other swine...all found people ready to sell whatever soul they might have had, for whatever they thought they'd get out of it. (It sure as hell wasn't for love.)

Response to Grokenstein (Reply #18)

Nasruddin

(752 posts)
63. "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac"
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:53 PM
Aug 2021

said Kissinger, or Napoleon, or probably every autocrat since the beginning of time

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
20. it is STILL ok if your a republican
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:12 AM
Aug 2021

Scruples are for people who care.

I don't really care, but he owes the clintons an apology.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
30. Remember all the Republican tears and
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 09:32 AM
Aug 2021

handwringing over the children who might hear on TV and radio news about the sexual behavior of their president, while those same Republicans eagerly spread every detail throughout the media? Remember the claims that Clinton might have compromised national security by making himself vulnerable to extortion over an affair? And the ultimate outrage over "the lie"?

Remember how they embraced the king of liars, adulterous affairs, and non-consensual sexual assaults in 2016? All while still claiming a religious moral ground?

There are no words for the depth of loathing that I have for Republican scum.

kskiska

(27,045 posts)
43. I distinctly remember Sonny Bono's wife
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 03:24 PM
Aug 2021

asking, "What do we tell the children?" about Clinton's affair.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
48. What did the Trump supporters tell
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 03:59 PM
Aug 2021

their children about "grabbing them by the pussy"?

Or about Stormy Daniels?

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
51. Oh I distinctly remember Diaper David Vitter's wife
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 05:07 PM
Aug 2021

trashing Hillary Clinton for "standing by her man" ....why if HER husband ever did such a thing.....right before he was busted for his diaper fetish with prostitutes. But those family values did project her to a judgeship under tRump and she didn't even have to divorce Diaper Dave.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
58. I remember the look on her face during her "stand by your man" video. A blast from the past:
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:24 PM
Aug 2021
When the DC Madam scandal broke there was hope that Vitter would be forced to resign. Unfortunately, the Senate was controlled by the Republicans who couldn't take a chance on a Democrat being appointed by the Governor. The Senate ethics committee whitewashed the whole thing and claimed Vitter had not violated any rules. Bernie Pinsonat, a Louisiana political analyst, said Republicans would stand behind Vitter despite the new allegations, citing support from religious organizations and conservative commentators. Vitter is a Catholic and is pro-life which explains the support of the Catholic Church.

The day after Vitter acknowledged being involved with the so-called D.C. Madam, new revelations linked him to a former madam in New Orleans. Jeanette Maier said Vitter was a former client of her brothel. She pleaded guilty to running the operation in 2002. Another prostitute, Wendy Yow Ellis, also revealed her relationship with Vitter in New Orleans. In an interview in the New Orleans Times Picayune Ellis stated, "It was a rule that I could not wear any perfume, body lotions, not even take a shower," Ellis said. "Because he did not want any scent on him whatsoever. He would always come in, hang his jacket on the door, go into the bathroom and take a shower. He would come out with a towel wrapped around him and sit down on the bed. We'd talk. And then he'd do his business." She also said that "usually people would leave their condoms in the trash can," but Vitter would take his used condoms with him. What is it about these Rhodes Scholars? Unlike Clinton, Vitter learned to take the evidence with him.

Stormy Daniels, the porno star and producer, with support from fans, attempted a campaign against Vitter. Unfortunately she was arrested last year for assaulting her husband in Florida and dropped her efforts to challenge Vitter.[link:http://www.337post.com/yoyo/100405-dvitter.html|

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
24. Interesting
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:35 AM
Aug 2021

Repulsion was my reaction upon first reading about this.

Then I read the thread and saw that was the reaction of most women.

He is creepy, disgusting, and completely unattractive. Yuck, he makes me nauseous. I would immediately tell him to get out of my presence if I encountered him.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
59. Way, way, waaaaaay TMI.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:33 PM
Aug 2021


And do the scumbag men who do this think we are supposed to feel honored by the "privilege" of touching their junk?

hunter

(38,311 posts)
33. The entire Republican Party is held together by blackmail.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 01:21 PM
Aug 2021

You can't be a Republican leader if you're not keeping something nasty in your closet.

For Starr it's probably something worse than an affair.

And I don't even want to know what they've got on Pence.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
52. You note that Anthony Wiener never touched the girl, it was phone sex, he went to the slammer rather
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 05:22 PM
Aug 2021

quickly. Soooooooo, what is up with Joel Greenberg and Matt Gaetz??? Al Frankin was on a USO tour making salty jokes with a beeeotch (who herself dry humped Robin Williams on that tour) that ended up working for Roger Stone and Sean Hannity, and taking a photo at a country fair with a tRumper couple in broad daylight, he put his arm around the wife's waist and embarrassed her because she put on a little weight and his hand touched her chubbles and HAYO! ME TOO!

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
38. It's not really much of a surprise that sanctimonious Kenny is a total hypocrite.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

After all, he does have the track record to prove who and what he really is.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
40. It was never about Clinton's infidelity, morality or ability to perform his duties
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 03:04 PM
Aug 2021

It was a smear campaign that allowed the sinners to project their own immorality on a Democrat for purely partisan gain.

That's all they had and that's what they do.

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