Ro Khanna blames Democrats for botching the eviction moratorium so of course let's bash AOC

[Arazi]

Let's amplify GOP talking points right?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/congress-scrambles-extend-eviction-moratorium-saturday-expiration-n1275485

Snip

Friday evening, Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., expressed other frustrations.

“The reason they’re not bringing it for a vote is because some Democrats privately have tried to kill this bill because of special interest of Realtors and other groups,” he said on MSNBC. “And it is unconscionable that we don't have a vote on the House floor, that we're protecting some members to kill this behind closed doors and aren't being transparent. It's just wrong.”

[JohnSJ]

1. The reason Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is being criticized is because she is blaming it on the Biden

Administration, which ignore that the responsibility is Congress based on the SC ruling:

throwing dispersions at the executive branch

"A Supreme Court decision from June made clear that any future CDC eviction moratoriums would be struck down without action from Congress first.

The end of July marked the end of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)’s national eviction moratorium, which shielded some renters from eviction during part of the coronavirus pandemic. The Aspen Institute estimates 15 million people in 6.5 million households are currently behind on rental payments.

THE QUESTION
Does the CDC have the power to extend the eviction moratorium?

THE ANSWER
This is false.
No. A recent Supreme Court decision said Congress would need to pass new legislation for the CDC to extend the eviction moratorium beyond July 31.

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/cdc-cannot-extend-eviction-moratorium-without-congress-authority-first/536-33fba52a-e3ea-4059-81cf-94f81a979864

"WASHINGTON -- A top White House aide defended President Joe Biden’s decision not to extend the federal Covid-19 eviction moratorium on Monday, two days after nearly a yearlong nationwide halt on rental evictions expired.

“Unfortunately, the Supreme Court declared on June 29 that the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] could not grant such an extension without clear and specific congressional authorization,” said economist Gene Sperling, who leads the White House effort to distribute Covid relief funds."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/02/white-house-defends-its-decision-not-to-extend-the-eviction-moratorium.html

It is so easy to blame the "other guy", when you should look in the mirror at your own deficiencies for dropping the ball

[Arazi]

2. Nope. She's being blamed here specifically for GOP talking points

This thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215692509

These comments are very specific

"god DAMMIT... this is the kind of SHIT that will lead to us losing the House...WHY DOES SHE DO THIS???
How can ANYONE who says they are a DEMOCRAT not be FURIOUS with this shit?
...

If you are looking at this you are NOT MAD AT ME for posting it here, you are mad at HER for letting the GOP do this to us! If you are a Democrat, that is."

Other moderate Dems say the exact same thing she does and crickets.

The GOP weaponized her words so that means its ok to bash her too. The relentless assault on her (and other progressive Dems) is driving progressives out. Certainly driving this progressive out

[luv2fly]

5. Yep, tolerance seems to be stretched thin these days

For AOC and a few others... Interesting given that many are prominent democratic figures.

[George II]

13. Did you see this?

'The White House Needs To Actually Do A Damn Thing:' AOC Urges Biden To Extend Eviction Moratorium'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017671927

Like Biden has done nothing at all in the last seven months? The SUPREME COURT has ruled that any extension of the moratorium has to be done by CONGRESS, not the Biden Administration through the CDC or by Executive Order.

So WHAT "actually do a damn thing" does she expect them to do?

[Bettie]

27. I'm starting to wonder if that is the point of the whole thing

there is a group who post on every one of the anti-progressive threads, especially about AOC, it seems like that is what they are here for, to divide use, to make sure that progressives know we aren't welcome in the party anymore.

So, we have to ask ourselves...why? Is it simply their shared hatred of AOC or is there another reason?

[Arazi]

34. Agreed 100%. Dems here and elsewhere are going to lose us at this rate

[lapucelle]

35. "Democrats are going to lose us..." ????

It almost sounds like the "us" you're talking about are people who aren't Democrats.

[Arazi]

38. I was responding to a specific comment in her post

"there is a group who post on every one of the anti-progressive threads, especially about AOC, it seems like that is what they are here for, to divide use, to make sure that progressives know we aren't welcome in the party anymore"

I was referencing progressive Dems

[treestar]

52. OMG I am so tired of

this "progressives aren't welcome in the party." This is a political party. It is a bunch of people working together. You don't have to be "welcomed" to it. It is not a support group! Good God!

They act like they don't want to work alongside others - who in the world would "welcome" that - and the complaints and criticisms that we don't do enough? As if they are superior to the rest of us somehow, and they should not have to convince US of anything.

[progressoid]

40. yep. n/t

[treestar]

50. Then the Republicans win

which is OK so long as people tolerate all of AOC's accusations, fair or not.

[George II]

36. What "group" might that be, Bettie? And what's with this "shared hatred" stuff?

[NurseJackie]

49. Oh, Bettie.

[H2O Man]

51. I tend to agree.

AOC, for example, has been a target of some here since she first entered the primary to challenge Crowley. I think she is wonderful, and her and Ilhan Omar represent my values. I support both of them.

[demmiblue]

33. All I have to say is that I have a well honed ignore list.

I can't even see half of the comments from the thread you linked to.

Every once in a while, I see some of those types of threads when I use my iPad (I am not usually logged in on my iPad). It is always the same handful of people over and over and over again. It is really bizarre how obsessive they are. REALLY bizarre.

[PatSeg]

44. Republicans look to members of congress like

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for their political talking points. They have made certain Democrats targets and right now, she is probably the number one. Is it fair to Ocasio-Cortez? Not really, but it is a reality and as such, she should keep that in mind when she speaks before the camera. Knowing her words will be used as weapons against not just herself, but the Democratic party as a whole, should be considered when she talks on TV or to journalists. Her popularity has given her a lot of unexpected power and with that comes an equal amount of responsibility.

Of course, she is not the only one, but she is new, inexperienced, smart, and very outspoken. That plus being a woman makes her an easy target for the GOP.

When Al Franken first went to the senate, he kept a very low profile and rarely did interviews on national television. He knew being a comedian, who had won by a very slim margin, that he had to prove himself as a serious senator to those who voted for him. Once he was reelected, he gradually became more outspoken publicly. He felt that he had earned the right to speak out nationally on issues he cared about.

[happy feet]

3. This!

and I heard a discussion --- extending the moratorium racks up what people owe. Congress needs to act AND the monies for rent relief from Biden to the states in most states is still sitting in the state coffers rather than distributed to the renters and those affected by the end of moratorium.

Let's stop pointing fingers - talk is cheap and each Congress/White House uphold your responsibilities.

[JohnSJ]

4. I agree. A lot of the problem is they are too engaged in the public spotlight and social media

platforms instead of focusing on what needs to be done

[Sympthsical]

9. Pelosi blamed it on Biden, too

She didn't do it quite as explicitly, but she absolutely laid this one on the administration.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/eviction-moratorium-biden-pelosi-cori-bush-aoc-democrats.html

Now, Democratic congressional leaders would never outright say that their dear friends in the Biden administration had thrown them under the bus at the last minute. But it’s not an accident that the first sentence of her letter to colleagues last Thursday pleading with them to pass an extension began, “In the last 24 hours, a challenge to the conscience of the Congress has descended upon us.” And in her remarks to reporters following the failed unanimous consent effort on Friday, Pelosi noted that, “we only learned of this yesterday,” and “there was not enough time to socialize it within our caucus as well as to build a consensus necessary.” New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez noted on CNN this weekend, too, that the White House had dithered on making its position known until the last minute.

Where are the threads about her?

Mysterious!

[JohnSJ]

11. The OP was about Rep. Ocasio-Cortez being unfairly criticized while other Democrats were

saying the same thing.

The fact is Congress dropped the ball. It is in their court. That Rep. Ocasio Cortez has a tendency to go onto public outlets and social media is why attention is directed toward her.

Did others criticize Biden on this also? Yes, and they were wrong also. The problem is doing this in the public arena does not serve anyone's purpose well.

I also think it was not very wise to broadcast our strategy publicly in how we were going to pass both infrastructure plans. That is, when the House receives the bipartisan bill from the Senate, they will hold it until the reconciliation bill comes across, and then vote on both. Why did they find a need to spell that out is beyond me?

[Sympthsical]

12. It's literally the title of your response

"The reason Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is being criticized is because she is blaming it on the Biden"

Pelosi blamed it on Biden as well. She did it in a press conference. Those are a pretty public arena. And given she's a leader of the party, there is a lot more weight to her words.

Where's the criticism of her? Where are the multiple threads full of Twitter outrage?

C'mon, man. It's wearisome pretending people aren't jumping right up AOC's ass whenever she says something because she's an outspoken progressive. Pelosi, who is more consequential, blames Biden as well and it's dead silent.

The disingenuousness is just utterly tiresome and transparent as hell.

I wish people would be honest. "Attacking AOC is super fun for me, and I will find any excuse possible. When it comes to not bashing Democrats, we will never ever count her."

At least I could then respect the honesty.

[JohnSJ]

15. Not quite. Pelosi called on Biden to Extend the Eviction Ban. Ocasio-Cortez blamed

Biden for letting the eviction moratorium slip.

Both are incorrect in their conclusions, but one is directly blaming Biden for this.

Ocasio-Cortez goes out of her way to be in the public spotlight. She has done this since she became a Representative to Congress.

There is no mystery why there is such a division toward her here. Her association with the Justice Democrats, and other candidates and groups that went out of their way to disparage what they characterize as "establishment" Democrats is pretty well founded.

You argue there is a double standard, but I would suggest it has more to do with differences on how to achieve one's goals

[Arazi]

21. Oh look, here's Cori Bush making a public spectacle AND blaming Dems

Why oh why isn't she getting blasted for seeking the spotlight AND blaming Dems?!

Tsk tsk right?

Cori Bush Blasts Some Democrats for Vacationing Rather Than Extending Evictions Moratorium

https://www.newsweek.com/cori-bush-blasts-some-democrats-vacationing-rather-extending-evictions-moratorium-1614910

[Sympthsical]

26. That is . . . an interpretation

I mean, it's definitely bending over backwards to parse the obvious.

Almost want to give points for the effort.

There are all kinds of Democrats coming out about this now.

But nah, tons of threads about AOC full of raging towards her.

Not against anyone else.

Do you really want to deny that which is painfully obvious to everyone who doesn't have a vested interest in haranguing the woman?

[JohnSJ]

29. This isn't about sexism. If you read my post completely, I spelled it explicitly the reason

why there is antagonism against her by some.

Her association with the Justice Democrats, and candidates and groups that went out of their way to disparage what they characterize as "establishment" Democrats.

What the justice Democrats did in 2016 to the Democratic nominee, and tried to do in 2020 to Biden is the basis for this.

What is happening in Ohio's 11 district election is a perfect example of the division.

You express disappointment because it seems some just single out Ocasio-Cortez and not others

Some express disappointment that as far as I am aware, no one in the progressive caucus has expressed disappointment when Nina Turner compared Biden to a bowl of s**t

You act like this is coming out of the blue. It isn't, and it has nothing to do with sexism. It is about political differences plain and simple with different groups in the party

[NurseJackie]

48. Well... you tried.

There's nothing you can do to force someone to be rational and reasonable and to actually listen to what you're saying. You did a great job at explaining reality without being overwrought and emotional and dramatic... but it was ignored anyway.

[Nixie]

54. +1000, thank you. Great post. It's hard to believe

that “progressives” who supported Bernie don’t remember the history and attacks on Democrats.

I find it hard to believe they refuse to acknowledge that Democrats reserve their right to “critique” same as the Bernie progressives bestow upon themselves. 😉

[betsuni]

56. They refuse to acknowledge it because of a purity trap.

They are right. Their position is the only progressive and moral one. Everyone knows this, 99% of the American people agree with them. It is The Will of the People.

If you don't agree, you know you're taking a wrong and immoral position. Any criticism of the moral, pure position is not legitimate. Therefore you have evil intentions and cannot be progressive, an enemy of the people to add to the long list of enemies out to defeat the pure and righteous.

[Nixie]

58. Yes! Great analysis. Their platitudes are getting more

shallow and shrill. But for some to pretend they don’t know the history of the whole Justice Democrats saga and how they attack Democrats, well…it’s not very believable.

[betsuni]

59. I think some have very superficial knowledge. They don't know the voting histories of those

they support and are mystified by direct quotes. Either they don't believe it or say "What they really meant was ____ ." Most are new to politics and don't know anything. Their favorite voted against a budget bill because it funded ICE when it didn't fund ICE? Never happened.

If you tell them to read the Democratic Party platform to find out about Democratic polices, they say "Nobody reads the platform" or accuse candidates of pretending to be for any of it. Tell them that Barack Obama ran on a Green New Deal and a public option, Hillary Clinton ran on public option and Medicare at 55 and the most frequent word in her speeches was "jobs" -- no no no, they won't believe that. They don't know what you're talking about when you mention Nina Turner and Our Revolution or The Squad and Justice Democrats.

Of course there are a lot who pretend not to know. They repeat disinformation which is immediately debunked, and there they are a few days later repeating the same lies.

[Nixie]

60. Oooh yeah, I've seen all of selective amnesia exactly

as you describe. Excellent post, betsuni. With a few of them, it looks to be an intentional strategy to refight elections they clearly lost — multiple elections at this point. It seems to be a reason to discuss other DUers instead of accepting the reality that they were rejected by voters. It’s more about personal grievances…Trump is all about grievances, too.

[George II]

14. "She didn't do it quite as explicitly", in other words she didn't do it! The Supreme Court ruled....

....on June 29, the moratorium expired on July 31. So what did those blaming Biden do during those 32 days? Anything?

[Sympthsical]

22. Pelosi's words are Pelosi's words

Non-sequiturs to deflect do not undo the fact those words were spoken.

Just the usual "Squirrel!" so as to not respond to anything salient to the topic at hand.

[progressoid]

32. +1

[Sympthsical]

6. Even when moderate Democrats work to wreck a bill, it's AOC's fault

It is always and forever AOC's fault.

When can we start calling this sexism? If it were anyone else, that aspect would be very obvious and noted relentlessly.

Picking a woman of color to burn in effigy every other day.

Not a great look.

[jalan48]

8. Special Interests

“The reason they’re not bringing it for a vote is because some Democrats privately have tried to kill this bill because of special interest of Realtors and other groups,” he said on MSNBC.

[George II]

20. So why doesn't Khanna specifically mention who those "some Democrats" are? My guess is....

.....there may not be any.

[jalan48]

24. So you think Democratic Rep Khanna is lying? Do you think special monied interests work behind

the scenes to get what they want?

[George II]

28. I don't know either way, but if I were to...

make such an accusation like that about my colleagues I wouldn't be so vague.

[jalan48]

30. Ok

[George II]

16. What bill got "wrecked"? No one is saying it's HER fault, but she's claiming it's Biden's fault....

....even though the Supreme Court said HE could do nothing - it has to be extended by CONGRESS!

Why is it no one gets this?

There's no equivocation in this document:

"clear and specific congressional authorization (via new legislation) would be necessary for the CDC to extend the moratorium past July 31."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a169_4f15.pdf

[Sympthsical]

23. Unless you address Pelosi's comments

I'm just not going to bother responding to your run around.

Pelosi put it on the administration.

Any words for her about that one?

[George II]

31. She didn't specifically "put it on the administration".

[NurseJackie]

46. So much overwrought emotion in politics these days. I'm reminded of...

[George II]

53. A shame people don't just read what she said and take it for what it is.

[NurseJackie]

57. Drama.

[JoanofArgh]

7. Nothing amplifies a GOP talking point like voting with Republicans against a Democratic bill

which she has done more than once, right?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

10. Well, she does oppose funding the Capitol Police and evacuating Afghani translators nt

[George II]

17. If he's so upset, why doesn't he mention who those "some Democrats" are? That's as bad as....

....saying "it has been rumored" or "reports are", etc.

WHO is trying to kill this bill? Anyone?

[tirebiter]

18. The moneys been allocated to the states. The red states fucked this up.

[kelly1mm]

45. As of the end of June only 3 Billion of the 47 Billion allocated had been disbursed. It is

not a red state/blue state failure. All the states have failed. (see specifically New York state)

[Arazi]

19. Here's Cori Bush blaming Democrats for the eviction moratorium fiasco

Cori Bush Blasts Some Democrats for Vacationing Rather Than Extending Evictions Moratorium

https://www.newsweek.com/cori-bush-blasts-some-democrats-vacationing-rather-extending-evictions-moratorium-1614910

I don't remember anyone bashing her for handing the GOP "talking points" that should ENRAGE us.

Or that she doesn't "understand" our slim majority. Or that she's "helping" Republicans. Or she has no "self awareness" etc etc



The performative outrage against progressives is a massive turn-off.

[MerryBlooms]

25. r&k

[mathematic]

37. Why are you surprised Khanna and AOC are coordinating their messages?

Ro Khanna endorsed Sanders in 2016 and you're in this thread calling him a moderate? Have you never heard of him or something? He supports the same things Sanders and AOC support.

[Arazi]

39. I'm commenting on the fact that AOC gets attacked

While other Dems never get attacked, even if they say the exact same thing.

Not only that, SHE gets blamed for somehow giving the GOP talking points, or grandstanding, or (insert her latest sin here) when other Dems do the exact same thing and never receive that level of excoriation.

[mathematic]

41. Your OP effectively draws attention to AOC ally Khanna also giving the GOP ammo

Well done?

[Arazi]

42. 🙄

Today its Ro Khanna and AOC who said the same thing but there are many instances where moderate or conservative Dems say the same thing as progressive Dems, and they dont spark breathless outrage and multiple threads accusing them of giving ammo to the GOP.

It's an example built off the other thread

[Cha]

55. I know all about RK & you are correct.

[Indykatie]

43. Why is No One Blaming The States Who is Sitting on the Money That Has Already Been Sent to Them?

Less than 6% of those funds have been distributed.

[brooklynite]

47. Opining from his safe D+24 district.