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no_hypocrisy

(46,267 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:21 AM Aug 2021

When the allegations against Andrew Cuomo first started coming in

a while ago, I figured Trump set this up. Trump would want another governor who could work behind-the-scenes and either get rid of the charges or pardon him outright if convicted. Another Al Franken hatchet job.

But more and more women came forward.

And Letitia James, the NYAG, who was selected by Cuomo, campaigned with him, elected with his help, found evidence of widespread sexual harassment yesterday. She was beyond impartial; she arose above politics and chauvinism.

This is larger than Trump. Even if it did start out that way, it's so pervasive that it doesn't matter as much, if at all.

And Cuomo's defense of being affectionately Italian doesn't come off as convincing. Maybe he is/was, but he also has another side. He is not Leo Buscaglia. ("Love is always bestowed as a gift - freely, willingly and without expectation. We don't love to be loved; we love to love." )

There is something to wisdom of knowing when it's time to leave.

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When the allegations against Andrew Cuomo first started coming in (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 OP
I am tired of Democrats handing ammunition to our political enemies Walleye Aug 2021 #1
I feel the same samplegirl Aug 2021 #2
And I'm tired of misogynist authoritarians regardless of party. ariadne0614 Aug 2021 #4
☝️Tired of all these powerful creeps Walleye Aug 2021 #10
Power is exactly it spinbaby Aug 2021 #17
Cuomo is the one handing out ammunition, and it's not an issue if Democrats hold him accountable. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #7
Yes, Cuomo, handing out ammunition that's what I meant Walleye Aug 2021 #9
Just clarifying for the audience, as I've seen some people STILL annoyed that Democrats feel he WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #12
Yes, when I was young almost every woman who worked with powerful men had to put up with this kind o Walleye Aug 2021 #13
Thanks for clarifying-- ariadne0614 Aug 2021 #15
👋 Walleye Aug 2021 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #3
I really hope you just forgot the sarcasm thingie. Treefrog Aug 2021 #5
I encourage you to read the report. There wasn't even a good working relationship in the office. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #6
Thank you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #8
Seriously? You think most managers reach under their assistant's blouse to grab their breasts? femmedem Aug 2021 #11
I do not think all these women are lying and he needs to go but... Ligyron Aug 2021 #14
+1. Some people are so ready to equate him with sex traffickers and child rapists dalton99a Aug 2021 #20
Cuomo seems to be a stupid boss and an arrogant asshole. dalton99a Aug 2021 #18
He should at least try to fake a little humility Walleye Aug 2021 #19
It's time for Governor Cuomo to negotiate his departure PJMcK Aug 2021 #21
As soon as Cuomo is run out of office is the State of Ohio going after Gym Jordan? Bengus81 Aug 2021 #22

ariadne0614

(1,746 posts)
4. And I'm tired of misogynist authoritarians regardless of party.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:55 AM
Aug 2021

IMHO, this situation is not at all the same as the Al Franken debacle. If Democrats fail to hold Cuomo accountable, then we would be handing our political enemies two of their favorite weapons--"Democrats are hypocrites," and "both sides do it."

spinbaby

(15,092 posts)
17. Power is exactly it
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:57 AM
Aug 2021

This isn’t about sex, it’s about power an establishing dominance by groping at will.

Walleye

(31,118 posts)
9. Yes, Cuomo, handing out ammunition that's what I meant
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:13 AM
Aug 2021

He didn’t have to act like a creep. I think he should resign. They will still use it against us and use it to excuse Trump

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,487 posts)
12. Just clarifying for the audience, as I've seen some people STILL annoyed that Democrats feel he
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:16 AM
Aug 2021

should be held accountable.

Walleye

(31,118 posts)
13. Yes, when I was young almost every woman who worked with powerful men had to put up with this kind o
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:20 AM
Aug 2021

Kind of thing. I experienced it, most everybody I know did. we just didn’t talk about it. You didn’t have to be pretty you only had to be young. They had to try it on every damn time. Not every man, of course, most were very civilized. But they didn’t believe the other men are capable of it, so they were complicit.I don’t know how it is now, I hope it’s better

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Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
8. Thank you.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:11 AM
Aug 2021

It was toxic as hell.

Amazing to learn someone here thinks touching women without their consent is part of “ a good working relationship.”

femmedem

(8,209 posts)
11. Seriously? You think most managers reach under their assistant's blouse to grab their breasts?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:14 AM
Aug 2021

I hope you wrote that because you aren't fully aware of the report's findings.

Ligyron

(7,644 posts)
14. I do not think all these women are lying and he needs to go but...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:27 AM
Aug 2021

Isn’t it interesting how the MSM will roast a Democrat as a distraction from GOP malfeasance every chance they get?

Knowing the Democrats will gladly throw their own to the wolves without due process of any kind whatsoever.

The republican party is so far ahead of us in strategy and tactics, not to mention money, that it’s no wonder we’re ruled by a minority. Irony of ironies, They turn our good nature and desire for fairness into a weapon to destroy us and do so pretty effectively.

PJMcK

(22,065 posts)
21. It's time for Governor Cuomo to negotiate his departure
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:06 AM
Aug 2021

"Go while the going is good.
Knowing when to leave may be the smartest thing that anyone can learn.
Go."

Bachrach & David: "Knowing When To Leave" from the musical, "Promises, Promises"

It's really a sort of anti-love song but the sentiment of these opening lyrics applies to the NY governor.

Bengus81

(6,936 posts)
22. As soon as Cuomo is run out of office is the State of Ohio going after Gym Jordan?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:07 AM
Aug 2021

Those allegations have been around longer than the Cuomo allegations and have people that would testify.

Nah....he's a Republican like that POS Trump and therefore NO investigations will be coming.

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