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no_hypocrisy

(46,253 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:03 AM Aug 2021

Trump N.J. golf club can't use presidential seal now that he's out of office, complaint says

Federal law prohibits the use of the seal to give “a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States,” CREW said in its complaint. Trump lost the Nov. 3 election to Joe Biden.


“Unlawful use of the presidential seal for commercial purposes is no trivial matter, especially when it involves a former president who is actively challenging the legitimacy of the current president,” CREW President Noah Bookbinder said.

“The use of the seal at Bedminster not only helps Donald Trump’s business improperly profit from the prestige of the presidency, it also seems to echo false claims that Trump won the 2020 election, which is dangerous for democracy.”




https://www.nj.com/politics/2021/08/trump-nj-golf-club-cant-use-presidential-seal-now-that-hes-out-of-office-complaint-says.html

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Trump N.J. golf club can't use presidential seal now that he's out of office, complaint says (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 OP
A CRIMINAL complaint has been filed! That's much better than a civil one. Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #1
Criminal trials require unanimous 100% guilty verdicts. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #48
Here is the seal. He is using it as the hole in each round. Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #2
That is disgusting. niyad Aug 2021 #4
This does not look like any hole I've ever seen on the golf course Ligyron Aug 2021 #5
Agreed. Could be the tee box markers. n/t CincyDem Aug 2021 #9
Oh I think that is what they called it. eom Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #14
Or fairway yardage marker A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #19
Yeah - probably right. Grass looks more like fairway than tee box. He's such an asshat. n/t CincyDem Aug 2021 #20
Could be a fairway yardage marker Hangingon Aug 2021 #25
That's not a golf hole PJMcK Aug 2021 #8
Even my Grandma could shoot 72 with those size holes. aeromanKC Aug 2021 #15
Looks like a tee marker Bristlecone Aug 2021 #17
Kinda like ,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2021 #21
Thank you, CREW. niyad Aug 2021 #3
THIS malaise Aug 2021 #28
How many things does he have to do bamagal62 Aug 2021 #6
+1000. nt ecstatic Aug 2021 #7
Agree. But after five years of being furious, I'm worn out. Maybe that's the plan. chia Aug 2021 #12
It is. It is all intended to wear us down and eventually give in to him... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #23
I'm just getting started. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #39
Send your surplus my way, please! chia Aug 2021 #44
I charge my batteries with a combination Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #45
So DISGUSTING. What a fkn cretin the former guy is. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2021 #10
Nothing new here for TFG .... he lives in a make believe fantasy world where he is still President Botany Aug 2021 #11
Bothsidering fascists and anti-fascists again. Marcuse Aug 2021 #22
Those great confederate soldiers who fought to ... Botany Aug 2021 #46
This plaque is so badly written that Trump himself must have done it. "The water would turn red".... EarnestPutz Aug 2021 #38
Good God in Butter Botany Aug 2021 #47
Delusional. About the past and about "preserving" a portion of the river, where, no doubt, one.... EarnestPutz Aug 2021 #50
Actually the State of Virginia fined that golf course for... Botany Aug 2021 #51
wonder if the golf course ever paid the fine nt orleans Aug 2021 #57
Someone should sponsor a USA President's Golf Tournament tavernier Aug 2021 #13
Wouldn't it be great if this finally lands him in jail? nuxvomica Aug 2021 #16
What an idiot PatSeg Aug 2021 #18
I think he did the same thing early in his term in office and had to remove them. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #24
Should I be more disgusted... jmowreader Aug 2021 #26
He thinks it's his permanent trademark Warpy Aug 2021 #27
He Should Use His Personalized Version Of The Seal smb Aug 2021 #29
Defacing the Presidential Seal. calimary Aug 2021 #35
He Did That For Four Years; Why Would He Quit Now? nt smb Aug 2021 #55
Sue his ass for false advertising. ancianita Aug 2021 #30
It's six months in jail for each offense. James48 Aug 2021 #31
Multiply by 18. Patterson Aug 2021 #36
Not likely. progressoid Aug 2021 #41
Well, therein lies the challenge. calimary Aug 2021 #42
Gee thanks to the millions of losers who voted for this turd. Baked Potato Aug 2021 #32
TFG couldn't care less about federal law. spanone Aug 2021 #33
Throw the book at 'em! Sogo Aug 2021 #34
Enforcement bpj62 Aug 2021 #37
Well, we've got NS secret satellites that can take clear pics of a dime on a sidewalk from space. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #49
Get a court order. Girard442 Aug 2021 #53
Psyop admonish Aug 2021 #40
every day in every way he teaches crooks to be even more crooked. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2021 #43
The same idea should be used with copyrighted material. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #52
Suck it FF45 Blue Owl Aug 2021 #54
4F/FFFF sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #56

Maraya1969

(22,509 posts)
1. A CRIMINAL complaint has been filed! That's much better than a civil one.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:08 AM
Aug 2021

"A criminal complaint has been filed against Donald Trump’s Bedminster golf club, charging the facility with misusing the presidential seal."

Justice matters.

(6,952 posts)
48. Criminal trials require unanimous 100% guilty verdicts.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:21 PM
Aug 2021
Fascist Qultists could infiltrate the Jury and block the required unanimous verdict.

That system should be based on majority rule. It's too fragile to F us all up.

Maraya1969

(22,509 posts)
2. Here is the seal. He is using it as the hole in each round.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:32 AM
Aug 2021

I don't know what it is called and this is a photo is originally from an instagram account.
This does not sit well with me.







Ligyron

(7,644 posts)
5. This does not look like any hole I've ever seen on the golf course
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:52 AM
Aug 2021

There should be a deeper cup and this one looks like it’s sitting 1/2 inch under the grass with no way for the ball to drop into it and stay.

PJMcK

(22,061 posts)
8. That's not a golf hole
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:58 AM
Aug 2021

It's too wide and too shallow.

It looks more like a teeing ground marker which is where golfers begin each hole. There are usually at least 3 sets of tee markers for different levels of ability and, sometimes for gender or age.


Nonetheless, it's disgusting that Trump is using the seal.

Convict the bastard of every single violation!

bamagal62

(3,274 posts)
6. How many things does he have to do
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:54 AM
Aug 2021

Before being held accountable? This makes me furious that we just let him do it.

Mr.Bill

(24,346 posts)
45. I charge my batteries with a combination
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:57 PM
Aug 2021

of being here and a little lurking on wacko conservative web sites to see what the enemy is thinking. Generally they prove themselves to be so astoundingly stupid it is actually encouraging.

Botany

(70,627 posts)
11. Nothing new here for TFG .... he lives in a make believe fantasy world where he is still President
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:06 AM
Aug 2021

Or one where make believe battles took place where he has a golf course in VA now.



Nice story but no such battle ever took place, nobody ever called the Potomac "The River of Blood"
@ that spot, and according to historians a confederate army crossed the Potomac about 5 miles
from where the plaque.

Botany

(70,627 posts)
46. Those great confederate soldiers who fought to ...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:16 PM
Aug 2021

... the United States so rich people could keep human beings as slaves.

EarnestPutz

(2,123 posts)
38. This plaque is so badly written that Trump himself must have done it. "The water would turn red"....
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:05 PM
Aug 2021

.....instead of "the water turned red". "Many great" sounds like his usual "many people are saying".

Botany

(70,627 posts)
47. Good God in Butter
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:19 PM
Aug 2021

This phony ass plaque to something that never happened should have been enough to keep him
from the White House.

EarnestPutz

(2,123 posts)
50. Delusional. About the past and about "preserving" a portion of the river, where, no doubt, one....
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:48 PM
Aug 2021

....of his idiot golf courses is leaching fertilizer and pesticides into the water.

Botany

(70,627 posts)
51. Actually the State of Virginia fined that golf course for...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:34 PM
Aug 2021

.... cutting down trees along the river's bank and or flood plain. If I remember that right too many things that TFG has done to remember them all.

tavernier

(12,410 posts)
13. Someone should sponsor a USA President's Golf Tournament
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:11 AM
Aug 2021

for charity and not invite Rump or even mention his name.

nuxvomica

(12,456 posts)
16. Wouldn't it be great if this finally lands him in jail?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:23 AM
Aug 2021

It looks to me like the law is pretty clear on this and the evidence is irrefutable.

PatSeg

(47,691 posts)
18. What an idiot
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:26 AM
Aug 2021

He thinks he owns everything he touches and won't let it go. He wanted to add the Presidential Seal to his branding empire and make money off of it. The rules somehow never apply to him.

keithbvadu2

(36,993 posts)
24. I think he did the same thing early in his term in office and had to remove them.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:32 AM
Aug 2021

I think he did the same thing early in his term in office and had to remove them.

Yes. And on souvenir stuff like cups. 2018

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-presidential-seal/

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jmowreader

(50,572 posts)
26. Should I be more disgusted...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:41 AM
Aug 2021

…that Trump is using the Seal for commercial purposes, or that he put it somewhere people are going to walk on it? Or is just hating him because he can’t accept that he isn’t president any more enough?

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
27. He thinks it's his permanent trademark
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 AM
Aug 2021

and can't understand it was only on loan for as long as the EC kept him in office.

smb

(3,476 posts)
29. He Should Use His Personalized Version Of The Seal
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:09 AM
Aug 2021
Trump stands in front of fake U.S. presidential seal that resembles Russian coat of arms

President Trump stood in front of a fake U.S. presidential seal before giving a speech in front of supporters in Washington D.C. on Tuesday. The sign resembled the official Russian coat of arms and contained other subtle shots at the commander in chief.

As Mr. Trump was being introduced at a teen summit hosted by conservative group Turning Point USA earlier this week, the altered presidential seal popped up next to him onstage. Instead of arrows and olives branches clutched in their talons, a closer look reveals two eagles holding a set of golf clubs on one side and a pile of cash on another....


bpj62

(999 posts)
37. Enforcement
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:49 PM
Aug 2021

Even if he loses and he will because it it pretty clear what he is doing, how will this be enforced. Sure they can remove the first set of whatever they are and in my opinion they are yardage markers on the fairways. However who is to stop him from putting them back in. Bedminster is a private club and he can tell the members that no photographs can be taken of the course. Enforcing that will not be tough as most of the members are Trump supporters.

Justice matters.

(6,952 posts)
49. Well, we've got NS secret satellites that can take clear pics of a dime on a sidewalk from space.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:30 PM
Aug 2021
Apparently.

Girard442

(6,087 posts)
53. Get a court order.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:56 PM
Aug 2021

When the seal stays, fine him for contempt. When he won't pay, show up and start confiscating stuff.

Bet those club members who get their cart taken away from them in mid game will notice.

LiberalFighter

(51,229 posts)
52. The same idea should be used with copyrighted material.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021

Money made from it should be confiscated and deposited in the USA Treasury.

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