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On the night of Dec. 12, 2020, the day of the first Stop the Steal rally in Washington and three weeks ahead of the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, several guests of then-Rep.-elect Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., received an exclusive after-hours tour of the Capitol building from the far-right firebrand.
There are several unanswered questions about this visit, which appears to have violated normal Capitol protocol in various ways. It's not clear who authorized it, since Boebert was not yet a member of Congress and had no official standing in D.C. It's perhaps even stranger that it occurred on a Saturday night, when the Capitol complex is closed. Later, in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 attack, Boebert repeatedly denied rumors that she had offered "reconnaissance tours" to would-be rioters shortly before that event. But her ambiguous comments appeared to avoid any specific discussion of this unexplained December tour.
According to materials reviewed by Salon, the Dec. 12 tour led by Boebert involved various parts of the Capitol complex, including the staircase in the Senate's empty Brumidi Corridors, Senate room S-127 and the Senate briefing room, as well as the then-vacant Capitol Rotunda.
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Furthermore, spots for such tours are not readily available, with only eight reservations available on any given day. It's true that Boebert was a member-elect at the time, but that's an important distinction: She certainly was not a sworn member of Congress and had no office, no staff and no official status in the Capitol complex. It's even more puzzling that this tour took place on Saturday night. The guidelines for member-led Capitol tours state they are only available on weekdays from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m., and also that all visitors must sign liability waivers and all tours must be led by official Capitol guides, not Capitol Police officers.
More at:
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/04/why-did-lauren-boebert-lead-a-late-night-capitol-tour-three-weeks-before-jan-6/
MiHale
(9,793 posts)The Capitol Policeman that accompanied them on their trek.
woodsprite
(11,940 posts)jaxexpat
(6,865 posts)The deafening silence about this "tour" is, to me, alarming. I suspect no TeeVee person has insinuated suitably repeatable sound-bites to sustain a necessary investigability. Or that some with testifiable knowledge about it don't want to further ruffle the feathers of those they consider the "next administration". Just as there are fortunes to be made "shorting" the market, so there are, undoubtably, those, comfortable in their bureaucratic niche, who will cynically cover, with testimonial scarcity, their bets .
SledDriver
(2,059 posts)Makes one wonder
RAB910
(3,537 posts)I am not seeing the sort of smoking gun that would prove the accusation of giving intel to enemies of the USA. I mean giving her family a sneak tour of the Capital may not be proper, but it's hardly a crime of sedition or treason.
Demsrule86
(68,768 posts)prison in the end.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)yeah, there's not enough detail to really draw much of a conclusion.
But it really does beg for numerous questions being raised.
Just on the tour itself, I can't imagine a rep-elect having influence enough over Capitol Police or whomever approves tours allowing this in and of itself, let alone off hours and without an official tour guide.
I think the name of the CPD officer does need to be given to whichever committee would have oversight. This is clearly a violation of protocol and policy.
The same committee needs to know who was on that tour and their relationship to Ms. Boebert.
Also, why the Senate and what significance do those rooms have. They obviously have no relationship to Ms. Boebert.
ancianita
(36,201 posts)within the Capitol. And get his pledge to stop all tours by Capitol Police.
Volaris
(10,278 posts)What she was doing, she wasnt supposed to be doing.
Family? Ok, sure. You're an idiot. Next.
NOT Family? Hang on there a second, I have more questions...
Merlot
(9,696 posts)This reeks, and for what it's worth, bobert does not appear to be stupid. I'd say she's way to clever to not know what she was doing. She came to congress to destroy it, and will take any means to further her goal.
My guess is her family would be likeminded.
Layzeebeaver
(1,645 posts)Its not excuse. Its a fact.
But I agree there is some level of complicity.
She needs to be held accountable, and if guilty then removed from the house.
If innocent, then I think I will need to take a pill
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)She is in BIG trouble. All the anomalies surrounding this event point to major malfeasance; somebody on the inside helped her set this up, and it is NOT going to be pretty when the facts come out.
Champp
(2,114 posts)diverdownjt
(703 posts)He's the wrong color.....
lark
(23,182 posts)It was the militia creeps that committed sedition on 1/6.
SeattleVet
(5,481 posts)stopdiggin
(11,404 posts)this is a fairly substantive point. If what you are claiming can be backed up - this story goes to an entirely different level than where it rests right now.
lark
(23,182 posts)There were pictures of her with the OathKeepers who were arrested taken 1/5 with them thanking her for the awesome tour of the Capitol. I'd bet it was deleted that same day because I haven't seen it since or heard this reported that way. That's why I want so badly for them to subpoena all cell phone usage by congress critters that day and see who was in communication with the terrorists. She and her other congressional co-conspirators will be 100% caught red handed, I'd bet, if this is done.
Lasher
(27,660 posts)January 19, 2021
Amid a push to investigate whether any GOP lawmakers aided rioters at the Capitol, several Democrats last week accused an unnamed House Republican of leading groups on reconnaissance tours of the building before the Jan. 6 attack.
Now, two Democratic lawmakers say they personally saw one Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado with a large group in a tunnel connected to the Capitol days before the attempted insurrection that left four rioters and one police officer dead.
Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) said on Monday that he and Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.) had both seen Boebert in the tunnel outside the Cannon House Office Building with a group sometime in the three days before the riots. He said he didnt know who was in the group or if anyone with Boebert later participated in the attack.
Congressman [John] Yarmuth refreshed my recollection yesterday, Cohen told Jim Sciutto on CNN Newsroom. We saw Boebert taking a group of people for a tour sometime after the 3rd and before the 6th. Now whether these people were people that were involved in the insurrection or not, I do not know.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/19/lauren-boebert-tour-capitol-riots/
lark
(23,182 posts)There was another that was a copy of Twitter post with her and some militia creeps taken in the Capitol and they were thanking her for the awesome tour. It identified some of the creeps I think by name and organization and said she'd used them for security previously so that would be Oath Keepers or 3%ers.
wnylib
(21,728 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)she is a traitor to our form of democracy. She follows the head of the traitorous RW, the FORMER president.
PatSeg
(47,711 posts)patphil
(6,238 posts)Either he, or someone else near the top on the Republican side authorized it.
Ligyron
(7,644 posts)Sumim funny going on here. And it aint funny.
Wounded Bear
(58,765 posts)Needs looking into, at least.
liberalla
(9,274 posts)Had she been assigned her office and provided with keys yet?
Yes, the whole thing is highly questionable and stinks.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This is NOT going to be pretty.
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)I can't believe she was able to do this on her own. I hope her phone, emails, and any other comms are reviewed.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ilsa
(61,710 posts)Ligyron
(7,644 posts)That is his official name from now on.
slumcamper
(1,607 posts)CERTAINLY there are surveillance cams throughout the capitol complex, right? I'd think so.
So the footage of specific individuals doing specific things, e.g., taking photos, notes, pointing, etc., should be available for review. IDing those individuals should not be rocket science. Neither should tracking their movement and transactions leading up to and after January 6.
I expect the FBI is already on this and may have a few bombshells to come.
Or isn't answering the main question this easy? I honestly don't know...
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)flying_wahini
(6,684 posts)nuxvomica
(12,457 posts)No need for videos. But they didn't respond to questions. Which could mean the info is part of an investigation.
George II
(67,782 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)he lost. His name is written all over this imho
Ferrets are Cool
(21,112 posts)otherwise, out system is nothing but a sham.
Evolve Dammit
(16,803 posts)Texin
(2,600 posts)Texin
(2,600 posts)I have to wonder if some rethug Senator, either present or former, had given her tours of the capitol complex previously (perhaps recently) and also gave her copies of keys. This, of course, would mean that whoever it was had knowledge and was complicit in this unusual and seemingly nefarious "tour". I suppose it could have involved another congressional staffer former or present who had wide latitude and current security access, but it seems pretty obvious she must have had assistance.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This needs to be investigated in deep detail.
malaise
(269,254 posts)Lock her the fuck up
world wide wally
(21,758 posts)captain queeg
(10,281 posts)Boomerproud
(7,976 posts)and answered under oath? I am not holding my breath. My money is it goes down the memory hole and won't be mentioned again.
calimary
(81,560 posts)If its in Salon, then itll get read. By somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who
which will eventually get to one of the investigators. Investigators who are members of Congress
who have constituents who ask questions and demand answers and start to make noise and
This doesnt necessarily have to fall down the memory hole
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)gonna get to the bottom of it all.
calimary
(81,560 posts)I did, too.
ffr
(22,676 posts)The republican war machine would let no stone go unturned. This would be breaking News headlines and they wouldn't be waiting for any harshly written committee letters to be answered. The gallows would be would be moved to outside the capitol building in preparation.
This was premeditated by the GOP so they could get their planning in order.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)it sounds like her "guests" were her family including her mother.
There was another accusation that Boebert led a tour of insurrectionists on Jan 5th. That turned out -- according to USA Today -- to be untrue because the photos, etc., were from 2019. Clearly, the people in the photo were ignorant white wing rubes (including Boebert), but the accusations about the Capitol tour were untrue.
"Our rating: False
Based on our research, the claim that Rep. Lauren Boebert took a photo with rioters before a tour of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 5 is FALSE. The photo was from a rally at the Colorado Capitol in December 2019. Boebert also said she didn't take any of the individuals on a tour of the U.S. Capitol. She said she has been unable to give tours due to COVID-19."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/16/fact-check-lauren-boebert-group-photo-2019-colorado-capitol/4163857001/
calimary
(81,560 posts)Must confess, I am NOT willing to just hand over benefit-of-the-doubt to an individual like Lauren Boebert.
hadEnuf
(2,222 posts)giving an unauthorized midnight Capitol tour 3 weeks before a right-wing extremist coup attempt on the Capitol kind of speaks for itself.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)An honest man from podunk nowhere, newly elected, would never take their family anywhere near the Capitol, given the election was purportedly up in the air by lunatics & including the head lunatic - FG.
tanyev
(42,660 posts)Link to tweet
The Speaker has been removed from the chambers. Lauren Boebert (@laurenboebert) January 6, 2021
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,837 posts)To maintain Shitgibbon in power...that very instant, the scum began active measures to overthrow it.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,573 posts)There is no way that this situation is anywhere near BAU.
Champp
(2,114 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)I don't understand why she hasn't been investigated/charged yet.
Vinca
(50,323 posts)MARKED office on the first floor alone. Some of them also made a beeline for Pelosi's office. That wasn't accidental. Boebert needs to testify under oath. Assuming that means anything to her.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)There's just something about that figure that has always made me think of Boebert.
And she has the chutzpah to do that deed.
Mr.Bill
(24,349 posts)what kind of access is given to those who have been elected but not yet sworn in. It could be possible she was there as part of the transition process. Or maybe not. We need to know about this.
bucolic_frolic
(43,442 posts)Giving a tour with privileged access and information is a leak of vital data. Companies keep their security matters private. That's why they have security details, private means of communication, passwords, anti-virus, and most of all shredders. Allowing public access to private information is not wise in any form. Anyone who learns of such information could potentially leak it to someone who might do something with it, and information travels fast.
This tour is laden with red flags.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)How many other Republican wingnuts also got these "tours" at odd hours when the Capitol wasn't supposed to be open? She couldn't be the only one.
Pas-de-Calais
(9,911 posts)live love laugh
(13,185 posts)Seems like shes hiding in plain sight.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts).... did any of her guests on this illegitimate tour end up storming the capital?
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)marble falls
(57,424 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,033 posts)Corrupt pols need corrupt cops.
Treasonous ones even more so.