"Nina Turner basically issued a vengeance warning in her concession speech."

[NurseJackie]

Link to tweet

Ameshia Cross
@AmeshiaCross

At what point did candidates lose the ability to accept their loss, go back and regroup, analyze where they went wrong and commit to helping the community/district regardless of position held? Nina Turner basically issued a vengeance warning in her concession speech.

Ameshia Cross, Political Commentator & Analyst. TV Contributor. Fellow @TrumanProject
. Correspondent @WVON1690
. Activist. Advocate. Democratic Strategist. Tweets are my own

[Renew Deal]

1. How is she going to run for president now?

[brooklynite]

5. That's simple, as the nominee of the "People's Party" whenever it gets off the ground.

[greenjar_01]

2. What was the vengeance warning?

[Treefrog]

3. I'm curious too.

No idea.

[marble falls]

4. It should lose her some supporters. But it won't. You'd think they'd wait until we get it ...

... fixed before they'd start burning it down. I doubt Turner's commitment to her cause, she seems to be much more interested in her branding than her program.

[obamanut2012]

6. It would be helpful to know what she said

[quaint]

7. Concession Speech

[Phoenix61]

8. That is the concession speech of someone

I don’t want in office. It’s not like she’s Stacey Abrams where a RWNJ won the election.

[obamanut2012]

27. Seriously

[obamanut2012]

26. thx!

[MineralMan]

9. Nina Turner Lost. She Is NOT a Viable Candidate.

She never was. Perhaps she will learn from this, but I doubt it very much. She is an ideologue with no ability to accommodate the wishes of the majority. In that, she is no different, really, from any other self-styled populist.

Her political career is over at this point. She is irrelevant to US politics.

[wyn borkins]

10. A Few Responses to Nina Turner's Concession Speech

As I do not Tweet, and I am unsure if I can list proper names, I have only included a few conversational texts below. Please dismiss OR delete this entire comment if this is wrong-headed OR if it's simply not the proper way to detail such information.

Item A: Nina Turner in concession speech: I am going to work hard to ensure that something like this doesn’t happen to another progressive candidate again. We didn't lose this race, evil money manipulated and maligned this election.

Item B: Nina Turner doesn’t understand the concept of consequences for your actions. Good riddance.

Item C: Nina Turner always handles things like this with such (bad-to-poor) grace.

Item D: Nina Turner is really pathetic, thank goodness she lost, and I'm a progressive Democrat.

[MFGsunny]

11. + 1000 n/t

[NurseJackie]

12. Ya did good, Wyn.

Nothing at all wrong with those quotes.

[Hortensis]

13. Turner claimed all primary elections were stolen

by corrupt Democrats and state parties when she worked as an attack dog for Bernie Sanders in 2016, and she kept up the evil democratic corruption lies through 2020 as well, softened them for this run, and is right back to “gotta be me.”

I don’t think she’s been stuck in this destructive groove for lack of imagination, this is just what Ms. Bowl Of is.

What I always end up wondering, would it be worse if these people actually believe what they say about Democrats or don’t believe it at all? Whatever, the whackadoodle hostility is not a delusion.

At least she’s denied the position of a US congressman to continue being herself from. Thank you, OH-11. Our Democratic House progressive caucus is thankful today also.

[PatSeg]

24. She always seems to be more in opposition

to Democrats than republicans. I pictured her going to congress and attacking Democrats as a fulltime job. Republicans were probably hoping she'd win. They would use her as the poster child for Democrats in future elections. I can envision the campaign ads and bumper stickers now.

[Hortensis]

35. Oh, yeah. We're always the big problem in the way

of The Only True Whatevers and must be overcome -- first -- so they can save the nation.

I don't doubt Turner's fury and resentment are real, and I'd hate me too if I knew me as she does. I'm just so glad she won't be able to use a congressional seat (as a Democrat!) to gain press coverage by causing trouble.

But protecting her seat might well have constrained some of her behaviors. And now she'll be free to act out big time. Lol, remembering that Ms. Bowl Of no doubt thought she was being restrained as she did her best to appeal to OH-11's Democratic voters.

P.S.: What Republicans, PatSeg? Maybe they think we created them to blame our evil deeds on and they'll disappear with us.

[PatSeg]

45. I kind of doubt holding a seat

would have constrained her behavior, anymore than it has constrained people like Marjorie Taylor Green or Lauren Boebert. I doubt anything could subdue Nina Turner. It would just give here a bigger stage with more cameras on her. Maybe she just can't help herself, but she certainly doesn't deserve a seat in congress.

Republicans like to use our most outspoken and extreme voices as an example of what all Democrats are supposedly like, especially if they are women. Somehow outspoken liberal women are SO scary to republicans. And meanwhile, Turner is not a Democrat, except when it suits her politically.

I really wish she'd find a different way to express her beliefs and policies.

[Hortensis]

46. :) Would have been eventful, not sorry to miss.

That behavior's a perfect way to neuter oneself as a legislator, of course, but like you I believe her biggest goal would continue to be self aggrandizement by drawing national flies to trouble and raising money. To be fair, she likely prefers to see her behaviors as furthering a great movement, not about her at all.

Aside from missing tumult from inside the Democratic caucus, I doubt Republicans will be bothered by the truth that she's not in congress. Everyone already knows LW extremists control the party from some hidden socialist headquarters anyway.

(Might as well laugh.)

[PatSeg]

47. I remember her way back when she was in

the Ohio state senate. Whenever she came on television, I'd have to turn the volume down. She was always yelling and always angry, not great selling points. For a long time, I tried to be objective, but eventually I couldn't listen to her anymore. Then when she got involved with the Sanders campaign, what restraint she had flew out the window. Over time, she seemed to have gotten worse and the disparaging and vulgar comments about Biden were the final straw. Any credibility she had with me is long gone now.

So left-wing extremists are really in control of the party? Part of the Deep State I suppose! We are all doomed!

[Hortensis]

48. Oh, yes? I confess I was giving her credit for more functionality

early on than you saw -- because I wasn't there to see. Whatever. She hasn't been a clueless, malleable kid for decades; this is what she is.

I of course also saw her in the 2015-2016 national elections, but by then too many, come under the influence, were tricked into believing wrong was more virtuous than right, lies better than truth, and election theft the real patriotism. Every week bad actors just expanded their narratives of deceit to cover the latest developments. And here we are.

I just hope her credibility is mostly gone. Because what she and those like her, who threw their own progressive goals under the Republican bus, disastrously helped empower is still happening.

Speaking of, saw Lt. Col. Vindman on Nicolle Wallace. So reassuring to see him speak of right and truth as if they were real and valuable. He fears that we're still in grave danger of becoming the kind of RW authoritarian state his family fled, but at least now more people are awakened to what's happening.

[PatSeg]

49. "speak of right and truth"

I can remember when that was the accepted norm. Everything has gotten so crazy, it can be hard to remain grounded and sane.

As for Turner, I listened in the beginning because I appreciated some of her progressive ideas, but it was her attitude and disposition that ended up turning me off. The way she has acted the past few years, I'm not sure she is mentally or emotionally stable. She really needs to find something outside of politics.

[Hortensis]

50. "Grounded and sane." That once was also not even a goal, just a norm.

We'll stabilize again.

My favorite roadway sign, unattributed, just says "We'll be okay."

[PatSeg]

53. Yes, that's a good point

It feels like all the norms of yesterday are now quaint and archaic. It is really unnerving, especially the perverted attitudes about truth and honesty.

[betsuni]

52. I think she should do something related with religion.

Seems like a better fit.

[PatSeg]

54. I can picture that

Yes, a much better fit.

[Hortensis]

55. Religion does seem a natural possible direction.

She'd still be a leader and no doubt still a political one.

[Me.]

18. Item A

more of money came from out of state than in, Shontel beat her on that, not to mention the obvious. A huge group of Ohio clergymen declared her a liar. She also overestimates her own importance especially today.

I say she is poison and is now eating a meal of her own baking.

[NurseJackie]

19. Would that be...

I say she is poison and is now eating a meal of her own baking.

Would that be... baked shit with sprinkles?

[PatSeg]

25. And would that be "half a bowl" or the entire bowl?

[NurseJackie]

28. She can eat the whole thing!

Gobble it up and chow down like she's at one of those pie-eating contests.

[PatSeg]

30. Oh, you're on a roll today!

I say give her second helpings as well.

[padah513]

32. Lol

Sprinkles

[Me.]

33. I Will Leave It To Each Person To DEcide What Their Poison Is

she obviously made her choice clear and now it's backing up on her

[wyn borkins]

21. I Agree

And when you so aptly stated:

"I say she is poison and is now eating a meal of her own baking"

One could easily conclude that she has a serious case of Coprophagia

[MrsCoffee]

14. Bye, Felicia.

[PunkinPi]

15. Goodbye somebody. ;) nt

[redstatebluegirl]

16. Lord can you just go away Nina.

[mcar]

17. I noticed that too

Sore loser. And the nerve to criticize "dark money."

[Happy Hoosier]

20. And some folks here will still support her.

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Ugh.

[NurseJackie]

23. I can tell you this...

I can tell you this... anyone who endorsed her or supported her is someone who APPROVES of her comparing Biden to a "bowl of shit" ... and who approves of her refusing to support Biden over Trump ... and who approves of her supporting Jill Stein over Hillary. (And even if they don't specifically approve or agree with her "bowl of shit" comment, their support of her show a clear lack of good judgement and lack of standards.)

All I'm trying to say is that they've ALL tarnished their own reputations and sullied themselves by association with an anti-Democratic crackpot like Nina Turner. If any of them plan on continuing their political careers, this is something that will be used against them by potential challengers. They'll have some 'splaining to do.

[grantcart]

22. Nina Turner can eat sΩ&Г

[obamanut2012]

29. She works on K Street and complains about "dark money"?

lololololololololollollllbsdbjhgberjkbdjvd

I was taught good sportsmanship when I was a small child. She and Trump need to learn it.

[NurseJackie]

31. You make an EXCELLENT point. Thank you!

She works on K Street and complains about "dark money"?

You make an EXCELLENT point. Thank you!

[Me.]

34. Funny You Should Say That

on MJ today they were saying how her negative approach to politics was just like TFG's. And really, why did she think a strategy of kicking dems in the teeth would work?

[Cha]

42. Oh Good.. I'm glad they

got that.. TY, Me!

[Me.]

43. Heya

[Cha]

44. Aloha! So Happy that Shontel WON!

[boston bean]

36. She sounded like a nut bag trumper

[NurseJackie]

37. Imagine how awful it would be if she had actually won.

Her goal was to fuck with the Democratic party... not to work for Biden's agenda, not to strengthen the Democratic party.

[boston bean]

38. The minute Clyburm endorsed Shontel, it was over for Nina.

[Catherine Vincent]

39. My take

I had no cause for this race since I'm in Texas but now that the election is over, I didn't care for this Nina Turner. I saw her a few times on tv and something about her rubbed me the wrong way. Can't explain it.

[NurseJackie]

40. You're not alone. Here are the things she said/did that "rubbed MANY people the wrong way"...

In her own words: Nina Turner seems to hate the Democratic party. --- Here's an interesting collection of video/audio clips of interviews that Nina-T has given over the years. She makes it very clear that she has nothing but contempt and distrust of the Democratic Party. Yet here she is, running "as a" Democrat (but only because her preferred "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to get on the ballot in Ohio.)

I spent a few minutes typing a transcript of the on-screen text AND her exact words. Watch and listen to the video... read-along if you want. Here is the TRUTH about what Nina-T thinks of Democrats... the words are coming from her own mouth!

Nina Turner is running as a Democratic candidate for #OH11 but she seems to hate the party. She never said she voted for Biden in 2020 or Hillary in 2016. She also said electing President Obama was symbolic & produced no results & that Kamala as VP pick was to “check off a box”.

Link to tweet

Nina Turner highlights the moment her disdain for the Democratic Party originated.

-- "... and at a dinner for the Ohio Democratic Party, President Clinton said everyone else's name but mine. So, this is the exclusive because I've never told this story publicly."

Nina Turner explains that President Obama was only a symbolic figure.

-- "... we made no demands of the President, and the 'symbol' of President Obama is a beautiful thing, but what did that get us collectively?"

Nina Turner explains she believes the 2016 Democratic Primary was rigged.

-- "... the fix was in from the beginning!"

Nina Turner explains she is not about party unity: She thinks her preferred 2016 candidate was "cheated"

-- "... well I wasn't there, you know, I was home. Because, my, the person I wanted, you know, got cheated in the primary."

Nina Turner explains if it is a choice between Trump or Hillary, might as well vote for the extreme.

-- "... you know if it's the difference between the lesser of the two evils, we might just go with straight-up evil!"

Nina Turner explains she "would love to see" the extreme left "go crazy" & "hold the Democratic Party hostage"

-- "... what I would love to see the progressive movement do from the progressive members of the House of Representatives and progressive members who may be in the Senate is... to go crazy! Maybe take a page out of the Tea Party book and hold the Democratic Party hostage!"

Nina Turner explains that Kamala Harris joining the ticket is about "checking off a box"

-- "... it cannot be about just checking-off a box! But it is clear that the Democratic Party -- that is what they are most concerned about -- see, they're more concerned about optics."

Nina Turner explains that Kamala Harris joining the ticket is the ticket Wall Street wants.

-- "... Wall Street has the ticket that they want!"

Nina Turner explains that having to vote between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is like choosing between two bowls of shit to eat.

-- "... you got two bowls of shit in front of you, and you got to pick one. That's the situation we in right now. Bowl #1 or Bowl #2?"

How can Nina work with a party she hates?

-- "... these so-called Democrats!"
-- "... I have no faith in the Democratic Party."

[ecstatic]

57. Wow. All of her bitterness stems from getting her feelings hurt

at a dinner? Smh.

[Cha]

41. Rt TY.. that tweet is excellent! Nailed It!

[MustLoveBeagles]

51. I'm not surprised

I've never really cared for her.

[BadgerKid]

56. Thought on Ameshia's tweet

With Ameshia’s tweet, It’s occurring to me there is a common trait among our dear Trump-humpers, anti-Vaxxers, zealots, financial industry, etc. It is a certain willful denial of present circumstances and truths to the point of actively bullying and dismantling of support systems and safeguards. They would rather tear people down than build them up.

[betsuni]

58. K&R