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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNina Turner Learns the Hard Way That Democrats Like Joe Biden
New York MagazineTurner lost a special primary election for Congress in Cleveland on Tuesday to rival Shontel Brown, a county councilwoman, by a margin of 50-45 percent. The seat was vacated when Marcia Fudge resigned from Congress to become Bidens secretary of Housing and Urban Development. It seemed like a lock for Turner, a former state senator who raised the most money and went on TV the earliest. But then the campaign turned into an intra-Democratic proxy fight between the partys left wing and normie Democrats.
Although Turner was originally a vocal leader in the Ready for Hillary Clinton presidential effort in 2014, she became one of Bernie Sanderss most prominent surrogates in the actual 2016 presidential campaign. Afterward, Turner flirted with an offer to be Jill Steins running mate and declined to back Clinton against Donald Trump in the general election. Although Turner eventually backed Biden in 2020, she did so only after comparing a vote for the Democratic nominee to eating excrement: Its like saying to somebody, You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all youve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing. Its still shit.
This was an opportunity for Brown, her top opponent in a splintered field, to turn the race into a referendum on Biden and loyalty to the Democratic Party in a district heavily populated by Black and Jewish members of the partys base.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)K&R
dsc
(52,161 posts)which certainly didn't make people want to vote for her. To borrow one of her phrases, it was kind of like a bowl of s
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,176 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)Thats all wed need - another loudmouth deliberate-irritant provocateur with a Congressional platform.
Bad enough that we have Margie Traitor Gangrene and her ilk already there.
Lanius
(599 posts)(1) Shes very divisive and, like some other progressives, is always looking to fight other Democrats as vehemently as possible.
(2) Yeah people like Joe Biden. And that means a lot of Democrats like Joe Biden.
(3) The progressive wing of the Democratic Party believes it is much larger and more powerful than it actually is. Theyre just one part of the huge and diverse coalition that makes up the party, but they want to be the ones in charge.
They think they should be the only one in charge regardless of the facts that we win elections with people who back progressive ideas who are center left pragmatists like Joe Biden. Or at the congressional level Sean Casten, and Lauren Underwood, and Lucy McBath.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They are NOT the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Progressives are people like Rep. Clyburn, Speaker Pelosi, Senator Warren, NONE of whom would ever bash the Democratic Party (as opposed to offering occasional good advice).
nycbos
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... to a bowl of shit in a Democratic primary would be a poor electoral strategy.
George II
(67,782 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,217 posts)ananda
(28,859 posts)Biden is doing very well, and I love the way he handles
problems.
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)I just don't think she can be an effective legislator, which requires coalition building, teamwork and reasonable compromise.
irisblue
(32,973 posts)before this run, had she rebuilt her local base?
Here in C-bus,my rep is Joyce Beatty, I however really align better with her last losing Dem primary opponent Morgan Harper. Harper, while growing up here, and having a resume of working for Rich Cordray at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, had not built a local base here. TBH, she seemed a bit of a carpet bagger.
Over the last 2 yrs, Harper, has been building a political & social base here, if she runs again, I suspect it will be harder for Beatty, even with her & her family history here in C-bus
KPN
(15,643 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)Enemies of attainable progress and enablers of fascism, accelerated climate change, a far-right Supreme Court, and the rise of global oligarchs. It must be empowering for them to have changed the course of history for the worse. I do NOT include Bernie and AOC in this sorry grouping.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)...F*** Nina Turner, and anyone who looks like her.
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Like "F her and the ground she's standing on....or the horse she rode in on."
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Whatever its myriad faults, Texas has the best expressions of any place I've ever heard of. Another couple of favourites: "A face that would make a freight train take a dirt road." And "If you were going to be a bigger idiot, you'd have to put on weight."
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Frankly it sucks.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,839 posts)The super divisive Nina is a typical Kremlin wish or ploy.
Republicans fear Democratic solidarity.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)whose ego is more important than any issue. It is always going to be about them.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,396 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,304 posts)Democrats are willing to vote for Progressives. They are less willing to vote for assholes.
Lanius
(599 posts)And someone can have bad politics but be outgoing and friendly.
crickets
(25,969 posts)and progressivism is not the reason why Nina lost.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,954 posts)...her crow eating will be better than last year's bowl.