List of all the progressives - rabid, extreme, far, - who are blocking planks of the Biden agenda

[bigtree]

**crickets*

...now let's do centrists and moderates.

[Ocelot II]

1. How about we don't promote any more divisiveness instead.

[bigtree]

2. sure

...the second query is usually the point when those pleas get traction.

[TheRealNorth]

9. I agree

But that goes both ways.

[NurseJackie]

3. Oh dear! That's hysterical! Too funny!

[bigtree]

5. me and Joe really bring on the laughs from you, huh?

Biden Calls Out 2 Democratic Lawmakers For Blocking Agenda
The president lamented that Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona “voted more with my Republican friends” than their own party. (AP)

Biden, speaking during an event marking the 100th anniversary of the Tulsa race massacre, responded to critics who question why he hasn’t been able to get a wide-reaching voting rights bill passed.

“Well, because Biden only has a majority of effectively four votes in the House, and a tie in the Senate — with two members of the Senate who voted more with my Republican friends,” he lamented.

It appeared to be a veiled reference to Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, both of whom have frustrated Democrats with their defense of the filibuster — the rule requiring most legislation to win 60 votes to pass, making many of Democrats’ biggest priorities like voting rights and gun control bills dead on arrival in the 50-50 Senate. While Sinema is a sponsor of the voting rights bill that passed the House, known as the For the People Act, Manchin has refused to sign on, calling the measure “too broad.”

Despite the logjam in Congress, Biden promised further action to address what he described as “a tireless assault on the right to vote,” comments that came in response to the latest effort by a state legislature to pass a law restricting voting access, this time in Texas.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-joe-manchin-kyrsten-sinema_n_60b6b4b4e4b001ebd46b3258

I like how the president identified the obstacles and said he would “fight like heck, with every tool at my disposal” to ensure passage.

Me too.

[NurseJackie]

8. Sometimes I laugh so hard my sides ache...

[bigtree]

10. here's something funny

...funny/strange. (sorry no cutsie gifs)

Joe Manchin cosponsored the voting-rights bill in 2019 that he's now blocking on the grounds that the GOP doesn't like it

In an op-ed article for the Charleston Gazette-Mail on Sunday, Manchin argued that he couldn't support a voting-rights bill with no bipartisan support.

But Manchin was a cosponsor of a version of the bill introduced in 2019 that had no GOP cosponsors, a fact that his critics have highlighted.

That March, when Democrats did not have a majority in the Senate, Manchin joined 45 others in an effort led by Sen. Jeff Merkley to pass the bill.

https://www.businessinsider.com/manchin-cosponsored-elections-bill-2019-that-he-is-now-blocking-2021-6

Ha, huh?

[NurseJackie]

11. That's a shame. But, he's the best we can hope for in WV.

As someone once said to me... "move on".

[bigtree]

12. here's the thing

...that fight is still ongoing (unlike the special primary election, for ex.).

And the president has promised to continue 'fighting.'

Me too.

[NurseJackie]

24. Maybe the Republican who takes his place someday will caucus with the Democrats.

In the end, he's the best we're going to get out of WV. Face it. Move on and try to harass and kneecap some vulnerable Republicans so that they can be replaced with Democrats. Just one flipped senate seat gives us a 2-vote advantage. Two flipped senate seats gives us a FOUR vote advantage.



PS: I'm still celebrating Brown's win (and NINA'S LOSS!!!) 🎉🍾🥂🍷

[DemocraticPatriot]

22. Maybe he will 'move on' tomorrow. That's okay with you, right?

[NurseJackie]

23. Good idea!

[Eliot Rosewater]

14. I cant STAND those two, I assume most of us are furious with them.

I wonder if Manchin can be replaced by a real Democrat, probably not but who knows anymore!

So you agree Joe Biden is a very good man, good. That he has spent his life in DC (not crazy that anyone is able to do that, but that is the way it is) and has no more money today basically than when he arrived.

In other words a very honest man. Unlike so many others, most of them in the GOP.

There are things I am not crazy about, his insistence that the GOP is still workable on laws, I think they are not. But he knows more about than I do.

I am just glad to see you expressing this admiration for this very good man, and I think Kamala is as well...not a good man, but you know.

[bigtree]

16. interesting, I've never opposed Joe

....I do remember being told that I did because I criticized him, or because I supported a Democratic opponent of his.

Silly to even suggest I might not like Joe Biden.

Where does all this come from?

[Eliot Rosewater]

17. Not saying that but I am saying it so others can chime in...

You responded to me, I dont know your posts that well.

I do think many who like AOC dont like mainstream Dems which most would identify Joe as.

So whenever I can make the point of what a good person he is, I do.

By chime in I would like to see the folks who trashed Hillary 5 years ago to ask for forgiveness and to admit they were wrong and that they like Joe...I would like to see that and I have no idea if you are one of the folks who did that.

[bigtree]

18. I think you might be surprised how mainstream AOC's support is

...I'm a fan, and I'm pretty much an establishment Dem voter.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. I did a whole thread about how I am a fan...

BTW if Joe said the same thing I criticized her for, then I would give him credit for that, did he?

If he did why arent the fascists using his words against the dems? I am asking, not trying to make a point.

Is it the way she phrased it?

[George II]

20. In fact that subheading is wrong, unless I missed something in the article. This is what it says....

....further down:

It appeared to be a veiled reference to Democratic Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona,

"appeared", "veiled"

He never actually identified anyone he might have been referring to. He could have been talking about any two of these Senators (from 538's ratings web page) who have voted against his agenda more than most (rank of 50 Democratic caucus members), but we don't know. Note neither Manchin nor Sinema are mentioned (they're both tied for #1!):

Rank / Senator
47 (tie) Kirsten E. Gillibrand
47 (tie) Patty Murray
47 (tie) Chris Van Hollen
50 Bernard Sanders

You can see their ratings here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/

[George II]

4. What's your point? Why didn't you "do" centrists and moderates? I think you overlooked....

in your list six who voted NAY along with a few republicans for this bill, with as yet publicly unspecified reasons (all 213 other Democrats voted YEA):

BILL TITLE: Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2021, and for other purposes

https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2021/roll250.xml

Or this one, where two Democrats voted NAY with 67 republicans (all 214 other Democrats voted YEA):

QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass Certain Bills and Agree to a Resolution

https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2021/roll125.xml

If you're going to be taking divisive shots at Democrats at least be fair and evenhanded. Thanks!

[sheshe2]

13. crickets

[treestar]

6. There have been many threads

on the two centrists who have done the blocking. Lots of complaint about them.

[jalan48]

7. Oh yeah

[BannonsLiver]

15. Yeah those two are really popular here.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. Nina Turner's loss in Ohio means Biden doesn't need to keep caving to the left

This race has some interesting implications. AOC and the squad demanded that OH11 voters send Nina Turner to bolster their power to block President Biden's plans

Link to tweet

Shontel's victory over Nina and the Squad is important in that it gives Joe Biden more flexibility

Link to tweet

That’s what makes Shontel Brown’s upset victory on Tuesday in an Ohio special election so refreshing. She beat Nina Turner, the epitome of smashmouth-style liberalism, in a Democratic primary to fill the House seat vacated by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia L. Fudge.

Brown prevailed by embracing President Biden — and celebrating his brand of incrementalism. “This is about making progress, and sometimes that takes compromise,” she said during her victory speech in a Cleveland suburb. “Because when you demand all or nothing, usually you end up with nothing.”....

Biden has to be attentive to the left, given Democrats’ slim House majority. But Tuesday’s results suggest he doesn’t need to contort himself to placate the party’s progressive wing — as he’s doing with the extension of the eviction moratorium — as much as they demand or he has often deemed necessary.....

Fear was another motivation for CBC leaders. They privately worried a Turner victory would embolden additional radicals to launch primary challenges against incumbent Black lawmakers in 2022. What happened to Lacy Clay in Missouri remains top of mind. The 10-term congressman, whose father co-founded the CBC, was defeated in a primary last summer by activist Cori Bush, who had the support of Sanders and the Democratic Socialists of America.

And that may be the real significance of the Ohio results. They show the leader of the Democratic Party is not Sanders or AOC. It’s Biden. And he should start acting like it. At least he can count on Shontel Brown’s vote.

[Demsrule86]

26. Again...Biden didn't have anything to do with homelessness...he wanted the moratorium to continiue.

But a right-wing court ruled against the CDC...this bought us some time nothing more IMHO. And why do we have a right-wing court? The 'but her emails crowd' which includes Nina Turner helped elect Trump.

[George II]

27. No one wants to see anyone thrown out, but most Americans want to see the President....

....and Congress lawfully within the guidelines of a Supreme Court ruling. That's why Biden has been working with his administration staff behind the scenes to come up with a work-around that would prevent people from being "thrown out".

[George II]

28. Good commentary by the Washington Post. Thanks!

[Hortensis]

30. Yes, except for the nonsense that Biden isn't the left.

Call LW radicals and extremists out for what they are. Not let the entire left be smeared as them.

[Hortensis]

29. UH-OH! You forgot to list from Justice Democrats and other "rabid, extreme, far"

anti-Democratic Party groups who identify as progressives. They're loaded with them.

Even though most rabid-extreme-far progressives would spit at the idea of becoming Democrats, RW-serving MSM are including their activities in what they're calling "the progressive wing of the Democratic Party." You know, so our Democratic progressives can be smeared with hostile, extremist actions intended to defeat us.

So please list the organization you find them linked to, as it'll be useful in refuting hostile media claims against Democrats. But maybe best to wear gloves at those sites for protection against their poisons?

(Btw, most of these far-left "progressive" groups are identified as either anti-democracy or potentially anti-democracy by organizations that study and protect democratic government. Another toxin to guard against when exposing oneself.)