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Nevilledog

(51,220 posts)
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:35 AM Aug 2021

Unvaccinated man from ICU bed: Don't listen to social media



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Brianna Keilar
@brikeilarcnn
Warning: this is tough to watch

A Virginia man's decision to post videos documenting his Covid-19 treatment has slowly turned into a tragic Facebook confessional


5:32 AM · Aug 5, 2021
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Unvaccinated man from ICU bed: Don't listen to social media (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2021 OP
I've seen several of these. Treefrog Aug 2021 #1
Pity for him. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #2
I can't help it Skittles Aug 2021 #50
The rightwingnuts will just see him as "weak." Chainfire Aug 2021 #3
They need to show ads with this urging people to get the vaccine JohnSJ Aug 2021 #4
He'll be accused of being a "crisis actor"... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #6
Precisely Effete Snob Aug 2021 #10
pssst: I love that screen name - brings back memories of the corrupt Spiro Agnew..... George II Aug 2021 #31
Nattering nabobs of negativism Effete Snob Aug 2021 #40
... George II Aug 2021 #32
Whoop-whoop! 🚨🚨 NurseJackie Aug 2021 #33
I live in FL mcar Aug 2021 #52
Can you imagine how awful it must be to have to care for someone who willingly did it to themselves? NurseJackie Aug 2021 #53
I've read that a lot of nurses are quitting mcar Aug 2021 #54
Like those ads about the effects of smoking Deminpenn Aug 2021 #41
Snowflake! nt SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #5
He's "taking responsibility" Effete Snob Aug 2021 #7
+1 pandr32 Aug 2021 #16
I feel such empathy for him. Blue Dawn Aug 2021 #8
It's pretty sad, especially so when it could have been avoided. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2021 #28
I know, right? Blue Dawn Aug 2021 #37
A rare phenomenon - Something never seen before - No one could have predicted this dalton99a Aug 2021 #9
I appreciate that he's trying to spread the word Rorey Aug 2021 #11
Who knew that playing Russian Roulette with your family could have a downside? -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #12
I don't think he got caught up in the politics StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #15
Reminder, 72% of Americans are overweight Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #13
This is very sad StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #14
Yes, .".a lot of people are like this.." Priorities mixed up..staying alive and well, top priority" Stuart G Aug 2021 #17
Yes, you are so right. LisaM Aug 2021 #36
There are plenty of procrastinators out there Deminpenn Aug 2021 #42
His testimonial will only lead RW social media to demonize him and say he's on our "side." live love laugh Aug 2021 #18
Yep. He's not even real. Just a "crisis actor" Effete Snob Aug 2021 #23
Puts his crap up on fakebook, while UpInArms Aug 2021 #19
Being overweight and unvaccinated is insanity!!! Jon King Aug 2021 #20
O.K. - I feel for him, but I wonder how many he pulled into his cesspool of misery packman Aug 2021 #21
If someone, like this guy, just didn't get vaccinated because of being 'too busy' or outright Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #22
The most frightening part is that people do listen to social media. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #24
Thanx to TFG, Fox News, and so on for making this video possible Botany Aug 2021 #25
It's nice that he's doing this gratuitous Aug 2021 #26
Sorry, butthole. SergeStorms Aug 2021 #27
You seem nice StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #43
Social media isn't the problem. johnp3907 Aug 2021 #29
Vaccinations are picking up again in some states IronLionZion Aug 2021 #30
Pull him out of the ICU and give his bed to a child. roamer65 Aug 2021 #34
That was hard to watch, especially as his cadence and breathing was so similar to someone very close WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #35
Jes gitcher shot. marble falls Aug 2021 #38
Live and learn. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #39
If you watch the video and read the report, you know that this wasn't about "owning the libs" StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #44
I'm glad I took your advice and watched the video before just reflexively ... 11 Bravo Aug 2021 #45
I stand corrected. Thanks. Lesson learned. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #47
... StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #48
I have empathy crimycarny Aug 2021 #46
There are a lot of people like him out there StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #49
Agree---my sister dealing with a neighbor like that as we speak crimycarny Aug 2021 #51

Skittles

(153,226 posts)
50. I can't help it
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:09 PM
Aug 2021

I want to hate him, but I can't stand people suffering. I hope some people understand what he is saying and GET VACCINATED.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. He'll be accused of being a "crisis actor"...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:54 AM
Aug 2021

... honestly, I've run out of patience (and sympathy) for the willingly unvaccinated. Fuck 'em. They are "surplus population".

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. Precisely
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:57 AM
Aug 2021

Pre-existing conditions, didn't take vitamin Hydroxymectin (or took it in the wrong dose at the wrong time), not really a Christian... there's a whole roster of reasons why it is either fake or of no concern.

But, hey, it's CNN, so it's all just "fake news" to these shitheads.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. pssst: I love that screen name - brings back memories of the corrupt Spiro Agnew.....
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 01:11 PM
Aug 2021

....I think William Safire wrote that.

mcar

(42,410 posts)
52. I live in FL
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 05:34 PM
Aug 2021

we've got a lot of them here. I've run out of patience too. I have sympathy for the medical staff that has to care for them.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
53. Can you imagine how awful it must be to have to care for someone who willingly did it to themselves?
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 05:48 PM
Aug 2021

mcar

(42,410 posts)
54. I've read that a lot of nurses are quitting
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 05:56 PM
Aug 2021

I do not blame them. After everything they did last year to keep people alive, these selfish dirtbags are expecting care and taking no responsibility for themselves.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
7. He's "taking responsibility"
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

Is he paying for that treatment out of pocket, or sponging off of everyone else who pays insurance premiums and taxes?

dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
9. A rare phenomenon - Something never seen before - No one could have predicted this
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:56 AM
Aug 2021

- Nothing could have prevented this



Rorey

(8,445 posts)
11. I appreciate that he's trying to spread the word
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 11:58 AM
Aug 2021

Yes, he was wrong to listen to rightwing propaganda, but he's doing the right thing now, and I do hope that he recovers and continues to spread truth.

-misanthroptimist

(822 posts)
12. Who knew that playing Russian Roulette with your family could have a downside?
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:02 PM
Aug 2021

I mean, I genuinely feel for the guy and his family. That's a tough video to watch. OTOH, I'd be lying if I didn't admit that there's a small (in more than way) part of me that doesn't want just slap him. I can't imagine being so caught up in politics that I put my family and their lives and health at risk just to "win" some friggin' argument.

Still, I hope his family and even he regain their health.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
15. I don't think he got caught up in the politics
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:07 PM
Aug 2021

He was just really apathetic and didn't think getting a vaccine was a big priority.

Johnny2X2X

(19,204 posts)
13. Reminder, 72% of Americans are overweight
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:03 PM
Aug 2021

So before people see this and say, well he's heavy, sure, he is, but so are 3 in 4 of everyone else.

Republicans refuse to learn something unless it affects them, so this video won't convince any of them.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. This is very sad
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:06 PM
Aug 2021

It turns out he wasn't an anti-vaxxer - he just didn't make a priority of getting vaccinated. I think a lot of people are like this.

Stuart G

(38,453 posts)
17. Yes, .".a lot of people are like this.." Priorities mixed up..staying alive and well, top priority"
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021
VERY IMPORTANT...!!!

LisaM

(27,843 posts)
36. Yes, you are so right.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 01:43 PM
Aug 2021

There is a whole subset of the unvaccinated who just haven't gotten around to it, but aren't anti-vax. I think efforts to reach them and get them vaccinated should be a priority at the moment.

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
42. There are plenty of procrastinators out there
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:03 PM
Aug 2021

For one reason or another, they just haven't gotten around to being vaccinated.

live love laugh

(13,166 posts)
18. His testimonial will only lead RW social media to demonize him and say he's on our "side."
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

And his fellow sheeple will turn against him.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
23. Yep. He's not even real. Just a "crisis actor"
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:38 PM
Aug 2021

"That's not a real hospital room. You can tell by the (fuzzy blowup of some obscure feature) that proves it is just a fake set for TV."

People really underestimate the in-depth defense mechanisms of truthers.

People who swallow dumb shit like covid denial, flat earthism, 9/11 "no planers" and so on, are simply not moved by things like this. In fact, efforts to dissuade them have the opposite effect -

"Aha! They are arguing with me! They must be threatened by the unassailable logic of my tots and pears!"

UpInArms

(51,285 posts)
19. Puts his crap up on fakebook, while
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:19 PM
Aug 2021

telling people to ignore social media …

Calling these peeps “idiots” is insulting to idiots

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
20. Being overweight and unvaccinated is insanity!!!
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:22 PM
Aug 2021

From the very beginning their have been 2 risk factors that leap out....being elderly and being overweight. The statistics are off the charts, weight is a huge risk factor of a serious issue with Covid.

Every single one of these confessionals, the poor people are battling obesity.

For goodness sake, common sense....being unvaccinated and young and fit is stupid.....being unvaccinated and obese is absolute insanity.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
21. O.K. - I feel for him, but I wonder how many he pulled into his cesspool of misery
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:24 PM
Aug 2021

His family, his neighbors, his fellow humans because of his stupidity - THAT is the sad part.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. If someone, like this guy, just didn't get vaccinated because of being 'too busy' or outright
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

being lazy, even ... then I still have a measure of sympathy.

People who obviously and actively went round talking bullshit about the vaccine or C19, spewing conspiracies or bashing scientists, or touting snake-oil crap ... those are the ones I have no sympathy for.

Listening to this story is a bit heartbreaking actually.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. It's nice that he's doing this
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:53 PM
Aug 2021

But I doubt too many folks who have already reached their conclusion about not getting vaccinated are going to take in this new information. They've made their decision, and they're not going to change their minds until it's too late. Then they'll try to warn the others in their tribe, but they'll run into the exact same problem.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
27. Sorry, butthole.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

You wouldn't listen to us when we pleaded with you to get the vaccine and to use the COVID protocols.

I'm not going to listen to you wheeze and cry now that you have the disease. I'm going to listen to some music, or maybe read some peer reviewed scientific reports about COVID.

Best of luck to you, but you were warned.

IronLionZion

(45,566 posts)
30. Vaccinations are picking up again in some states
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 01:07 PM
Aug 2021

stories like this probably encourage some folks who don't have strong beliefs but just haven't gotten around to it yet.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
34. Pull him out of the ICU and give his bed to a child.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

Not gonna watch it because I frankly don’t give a rats ass what happens to him.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,467 posts)
35. That was hard to watch, especially as his cadence and breathing was so similar to someone very close
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

to me who was hospitalized for covid months ago. Took me right back to that hard time. I hope he makes it.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
39. Live and learn.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:04 PM
Aug 2021

These sickbed confessionals…

Saw a story on the news last night about a mom and dad changing their tune after their daughter nearly died from it.

This is NOT the way to “own” the libs or anybody else. Morons (sorry, but I’ve been fresh out of sympathy for a good while).

If this makes somebody out there think twice, then good. But as we all know, “it can’t happen to them”.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
44. If you watch the video and read the report, you know that this wasn't about "owning the libs"
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:09 PM
Aug 2021

He is not an anti-vaxxer and this didn't seem to be anything political for him. He just procrastinated in getting his shot.

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
45. I'm glad I took your advice and watched the video before just reflexively ...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:20 PM
Aug 2021

jumping ugly on this guy.
I have little sympathy for loud-mouthed anti-vaxxers and Republican shitheads trying to politicize this tragedy, but in this case, it's just a truly sad story.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
46. I have empathy
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:42 PM
Aug 2021

I used to live in Indiana and I know people like this. There are people who never leave their small towns except for trips to Disney World or whatever. They live in a bubble. I don't want to call these people "ignorant" because it's not that they are stupid, but they have a very narrow view of the world based on their isolation and are easily misled. (Yes, I know there is the internet but that is no substitution for getting out there and seeing with your own eyes how the real world is).

I have empathy for people like this man as they are the easy pawns for the cons. The people I will never have empathy for are those people who know better but are cashing in on ignorance by stoking the flames. People like the Fox News, OAN anchors. The Ted Cruz's, Rand Paul's, etc. These people know what they are saying are lies and they don't give a rat's ass if it means they'll have more viewers, voters, whatever it is they are coveting.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
49. There are a lot of people like him out there
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:02 PM
Aug 2021

They aren't political and aren't trying to prove a point. They just don't think that getting the vaccine is that urgent but plan to get it at some point. Unfortunately, for some of them, it's too late.

I blame the loud-mouthed anti-vaxxers and political opportunists for clouding the message and sowing confusion that results in people like this man not taking the vaccine as seriously as he should have.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
51. Agree---my sister dealing with a neighbor like that as we speak
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:13 PM
Aug 2021

My sister lives in a very small town in Indiana. She has a neighbor who is unvaccinated because she is "waiting to see if there are any long term side effects". How much longer is she going to wait??? This woman is married with two kids, 11 and 13. She initially stated she was waiting to see if masks were going to be worn in school before vaccinating her 13-year-old. If they weren't going to be worn she was going to have her 13-year old vaccinated. Well, it was announced that masks aren't going to be worn and her 13-year old is STILL not vaccinated.

My sister is going to try again today to convince this woman to have her whole family vaccinated (except 11 year who can't due to the age limit). She is going to mention to her that in the history of vaccines, if long-term effects were going to occur they would happen in the first 6 weeks.

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