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Peek Inside Gloria Vanderbilt's Whimsical NYC Apartment for Sale (Original Post) IcyPeas Aug 2021 OP
As I understand it, she lost most of her money. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #1
She LOst MOst Of Her Inherited Money Me. Aug 2021 #4
She ended up sung people because that money was stolen Tomconroy Aug 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #14
Garish mcar Aug 2021 #2
It might seem garish to someone who doesn't live there, but I really like it StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #5
Way too busy for me but you are right mcar Aug 2021 #7
I'm not a fan of the unadorned spare, look StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #12
I completely agree pandr32 Aug 2021 #15
At least there are two of us ... StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #17
Me too. I've noticed most continue to like what their generation was first Hortensis Aug 2021 #24
It's ot me but I also like it malaise Aug 2021 #20
That's a steal in Manhattan! StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #3
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be creeped out in a room filled with pictures of myself. catbyte Aug 2021 #6
This apartment is my personal nightmare Sympthsical Aug 2021 #8
As far as a kitchen is concerned... kskiska Aug 2021 #10
My eyes hurt! tblue37 Aug 2021 #11
As someone with a red living and dining room, I mostly like this. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2021 #13
I'm amazed you can get 3 BR for that low a price in Manhattan. brooklynite Aug 2021 #16
I'm going to guess she never or rarely cooked herself. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #18
True - but there's a difference between being "overly decorated" and full of stuff they like StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #19
I realize everyone has different taste, but PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #21
It may feel cluttered and over-decorated to you, but I'll bet she loved it just as it was StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #22
Reminds me a lot of grandparents' house in Maryland. Organized clutter of good stuff... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #23
you can see air conditioning units in the kitchen and one of the other rooms IcyPeas Aug 2021 #26
Yep, there they are. No idea if they are powerful enough. Many of the older NYC buildings didn't... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #29
It's like a bad Barbara Cartland book... OnDoutside Aug 2021 #25
Wow, that is a lot of ugly stuff 😂 Luciferous Aug 2021 #27
That was a nice kitchen for its era, whenever that actually was. Hortensis Aug 2021 #28
I bet there are a lot of interesting stories that go with her treasures. nt chowder66 Aug 2021 #30
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
1. As I understand it, she lost most of her money.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:23 PM
Aug 2021

A million bucks won't buy you anything real fancy in Manhattan these days. Probably Anderson Cooper helped out.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
9. She ended up sung people because that money was stolen
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:44 PM
Aug 2021

By a lawyer and a business manager some time in the 1990s.
Apparently there isn't a Vanderbilt alive today that is considered to be really wealthy.
She left 1 million dollars to Anderson Cooper and the apartment to her other son.

Response to Tomconroy (Reply #9)

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. It might seem garish to someone who doesn't live there, but I really like it
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:37 PM
Aug 2021

It looks like the home of a very individual, interesting personality who surrounded herself with things that she loved and that represented a life well lived.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. I'm not a fan of the unadorned spare, look
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

It looks cold and contrived to me. I much prefer spaces with lots of personality, even if they may look cluttered ... I'm always much more comfortable in spaces that tell me something about the people who created and inhabit them.

That's just me - but I know I'm in the minority.

pandr32

(11,630 posts)
15. I completely agree
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:15 PM
Aug 2021

I can't handle cold, sterile interiors. Being a big art fan I much prefer my environment to be filled with art and special, interesting things. There is no place like home.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. At least there are two of us ...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:53 PM
Aug 2021


I've aalways been put off by homes that look like they are waiting for the photographers to show up at any moment and shoot the rooms for a cover spread in Architectural Digest: no personal effects, no photos, nothing that reflects the personality of the owners.

If given the choice, I so much prefer rooms that may be a little "junky," but are full of color and life and history and tales to be told.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Me too. I've noticed most continue to like what their generation was first
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:33 PM
Aug 2021

oriented to when young. Whatever comes next, it always tends to be a favorite.

I do appreciate the clean looks of the current "fusion," unisexual, hotel-inspired interiors of people who mostly must be gone working all day and who either clean after work or have anonymous employees of middle class cleaning services in to do it. (None of those were trusted near or to do a proper job with Ms. Vanderbilt's possessions!) It can be very good looking, with modern production methods nice stuff very affordable.

But when I was young, the rich "layered" colorful look reflecting the lives of people who lived rich, big, colorful lives was very popular, or a more bohemian look for those more like me, and I still love it.

I also still like the clean, simplified modern of that era, which was not at all austere -- in the glossy mags museum-quality art and sculpture , and I still love the wonderful serene quiet of rooms carpeted wall to wall. Art aside, in my experience modern was very unforgiving of gouges or wear of any kind and was very hard to carry off without a big budget for quality furniture. Now it's much more within ordinary means.

catbyte

(34,478 posts)
6. Maybe it's just me, but I'd be creeped out in a room filled with pictures of myself.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:38 PM
Aug 2021

But, as I said that's just me, ymmv.

Sympthsical

(9,130 posts)
8. This apartment is my personal nightmare
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:40 PM
Aug 2021

*twitches* I cannot stand clutter. It's open space or nothing. I put my partner on probation when he suggested we put shelves on various walls to display tchotchkes that he then wanted us to shop around for together. So this place is my worst nightmare.

After 18 months, I finally -f-i-n-a-l-l-y - put my art on the walls in my office.

I won't go into the fact I'd have to pirate-eye it just to walk through the place. How do you look at this everyday? And the windows, oh god. Gaze lovingly out into the street and never get diarrhea again.

kskiska

(27,048 posts)
10. As far as a kitchen is concerned...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:46 PM
Aug 2021

Anderson has claimed he never had vegetables and still doesn't eat them. He has weird tastes and said he doesn't understand waffles - they're just pancakes with holes, said there wasn't much in their refrigerator growing up except vodka and Carr's Water Biscuits.

Jackie Kennedy's Central Park apartment's kitchen was very old-fashioned and outdated. After all, she never had to cook there. The hired help prepared all their meals.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,754 posts)
13. As someone with a red living and dining room, I mostly like this.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 02:50 PM
Aug 2021

I would not have so many patterns in a single room, though. That rug is way too busy, but it probably had meaning to her. No portraits of myself, please!

brooklynite

(94,786 posts)
16. I'm amazed you can get 3 BR for that low a price in Manhattan.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:16 PM
Aug 2021

Whimsical or not, there's got to be some major renovation work needed.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
18. I'm going to guess she never or rarely cooked herself.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:56 PM
Aug 2021

I've also noticed over the years that the homes of the wealthy tend to be hideously overdecorated, with lots and lots of patterned fabrics that clash terribly.

No wonder she moved regularly in earlier years.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
19. True - but there's a difference between being "overly decorated" and full of stuff they like
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 03:59 PM
Aug 2021

I agree - over-decoration is not a good look when we're talking about contrived decoration full of things that were curated but not personal to the owner. But, on the other hand, homes with lots of stuff that mean something to the people living there can be quite lovely, even if that stuff would be clutter to anyone else.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,908 posts)
21. I realize everyone has different taste, but
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:11 PM
Aug 2021

the pictures of Ms. Vanderbilt's home look to me like a cluttered, over-decorated place. Other than the kitchen, which I suspect she essentially never went into.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
22. It may feel cluttered and over-decorated to you, but I'll bet she loved it just as it was
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:21 PM
Aug 2021

Which is what matters.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
23. Reminds me a lot of grandparents' house in Maryland. Organized clutter of good stuff...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:31 PM
Aug 2021

No idea if any of those furnishings are included in the fire sale price. (Or if it's a walkup, with no AC.)

I do love the kitchen, though-- loads of space, and hardly broken in.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
29. Yep, there they are. No idea if they are powerful enough. Many of the older NYC buildings didn't...
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:46 PM
Aug 2021

have decent wiring, and not all of them were upgraded over the years.

"AC? We don't have AC, we just go to our place the shore when it gets hot."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. That was a nice kitchen for its era, whenever that actually was.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 04:43 PM
Aug 2021

Dorothy Rogers', wife of composer Richard Rogers, socialite, entertainer, and big lover of cooking, designed her last big kitchen for herself as a highly efficient workroom that could meet all demands well, very small to very large. She designed a means of quickly serving large meals, without servants, from the privacy of the kitchen to the beautiful, large very sophisticated dining-living room next door but very separate. Not for her crowds of guests wrongly imagining her workroom provided a better atmosphere than fine art, books, Richard's piano and Richard, their gorgeous view, etc.

Her house before that one was something of a "country" version of Ms. Vanderbilt's NYC look. Gorgeous, but high maintenance that she finally tired of after years of loving it.

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