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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:45 AM Aug 2021

Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doc



Vaccine skeptics and anti-maskers are instead sucking down horse paste — the latest snake-oil "miracle cure" — once they become sick with COVID-19, resulting in an increase in calls to poison control centers, the Daily Beast reported Friday.

The horse paste contains ivermectin, which is normally used to treat parasites in humans and livestock but is now being prescribed by quack doctors and promoted in online forums as the latest version of the Trumpian drug hydroxychloroquine.

One of the groups behind the ivermectin craze is America's Frontline Doctors, the Trump-promoted Texas group that includes accused Capitol insurrectionist Dr. Simone Gold and "alien DNA" specialist Dr. Stella Immanuel.

"Devotees have besieged pharmacists with prescriptions from shady online prescribers, forcing pharmacies to crack down and treat the antiparasitic drugs like opioids," the Daily Beast reports. "As human-approved ivermectin prescriptions have been harder to come by, enthusiasts have taken to raiding rural tractor supply stores in search of ivermectin horse paste (packed with 'apple flavor!') and weighed the benefits of taking ivermectin 'sheep drench' and a noromectin 'injection for swine and cattle.'" ...........(more)

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bogus-cure/




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Vaccine skeptics and anti-​maskers are sucking down horse paste promoted by Trump's 'alien DNA' doc (Original Post) marmar Aug 2021 OP
Ohhh Wiiiiilburrr North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #1
Slowing their reproduction capabilities... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #7
LOL! Good one! traitorsgalore Aug 2021 #47
At least they won't get heartworms. dawg Aug 2021 #2
Do they know what's in it? How can they be sure? Aristus Aug 2021 #3
*Snort* OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #11
I ask 'em what's in Worcestershire Sauce Effete Snob Aug 2021 #13
I know anchovies play a big part.. luvs2sing Aug 2021 #14
That was a shocker to me Effete Snob Aug 2021 #17
Anchovies are great flavor enhancers. luvs2sing Aug 2021 #21
"I sneak them into a lot of things and no one knows" Effete Snob Aug 2021 #24
Too damn funny! luvs2sing Aug 2021 #25
It is and I use them a lot. My biggest cooking trick? GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #38
Another great idea! luvs2sing Aug 2021 #41
Have known for decades. But I still use it anyway. niyad Aug 2021 #32
I've made it before. Must be Almost 20 ingredients. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #37
We're in mental-illness territory, here. lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #4
Yeah, we're seeing people who WANT to believe this shit. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #10
But for one thing Effete Snob Aug 2021 #23
To some extent, I agree. But you can still listen and learn while believing one thing lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #29
Some people I've known have minds that are completely open. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #36
"by what they expose themselves to" Effete Snob Aug 2021 #39
Yes, so many crazy people out there. And way more on the right it seems. brush Aug 2021 #19
Those would be the geniuses who think vaccines are unsafe. LisaL Aug 2021 #5
. Effete Snob Aug 2021 #18
WE ARE NOT SHEEP Effete Snob Aug 2021 #6
Many of them can't read so they might only be able to... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #8
WWG1WGA OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #12
That always makes me think... Effete Snob Aug 2021 #15
Go border collies! luvs2sing Aug 2021 #16
Ironically, it's the other kind of 'bot' that is driving the insanity muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #43
Isn't is madness that they will take all sorts of poisons bullimiami Aug 2021 #9
The return of Dr. DemonSemen! luvs2sing Aug 2021 #20
They're treating outbreaks of Pubic Lice...which BTW can be transmitted from animal to human Chakaconcarne Aug 2021 #22
I heard horse piss works even better TheFarseer Aug 2021 #26
Sorry inthewind21 Aug 2021 #44
If they mix a cocktail of 1 cup bleach w/ 4 doses ivermectin & take 4 doses of hydroxychloroquine Solly Mack Aug 2021 #27
I hope they cleared eating paste through Eric first. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2021 #28
Keep Thinning Your Own Herd Morons colsohlibgal Aug 2021 #30
I have to remind myself how many millions of Americans are vaccinated. Otherwise I will BeckyDem Aug 2021 #31
Good lawd. demmiblue Aug 2021 #33
This isn't true. Srkdqltr Aug 2021 #34
No, it's true. Free Republic members have been discussing proper dosages Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #35
Oh, really? Effete Snob Aug 2021 #42
This is really popular in Central and South America madville Aug 2021 #40
The real research I've read so far isn't promising NickB79 Aug 2021 #45
They'll fall for all kinds of horseshit. LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #46
Darwin at work. Duppers Aug 2021 #48
Nothing surprises me anymore. I don't even bother arguing on facebook either. Xolodno Aug 2021 #49
"We won't get vaxed....Now if you'll excuse us, we're off to the farm store for animal medicine." LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #50
Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever' LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #51
Please tell them to eat rat poison SoonerPride Aug 2021 #52

North Shore Chicago

(3,316 posts)
1. Ohhh Wiiiiilburrr
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:47 AM
Aug 2021

Such foolish people who evidently have a death wish. Perhaps, ingesting this product will make them all infertile.

That would be an upside.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
7. Slowing their reproduction capabilities...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:52 AM
Aug 2021

Is always a plus. It's not so much that they have a death wish but more that they think they can outsmart science by taking what they consider to be "home remedies" that they perceive to be the "in thing" now that science based info is definitely "out".

Aristus

(66,366 posts)
3. Do they know what's in it? How can they be sure?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

Isn't this just a way for the government to track them? Isn't this a scam by Big Horse Paste?




 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. I ask 'em what's in Worcestershire Sauce
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:00 AM
Aug 2021

I did not know until last month what is in Worcestershire sauce.

Do you know, without looking?

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
21. Anchovies are great flavor enhancers.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:06 AM
Aug 2021

When you cook them, they break down, so you’re not finding fish chunks, but you get this really great, umami richness that is not at all fishy. I sneak them into a lot of things and no one knows.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
38. It is and I use them a lot. My biggest cooking trick?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:27 PM
Aug 2021

Miso into every soup or stew I make. Even chili. A tablespoon is all you need. Gives that same Unami effect.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. I've made it before. Must be Almost 20 ingredients.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:24 PM
Aug 2021

It’s been several years but I remember onions, garlic, horseradish root freshly grated, tamarinds and anchovies.

I boiled it for hours until almost everything was liquid. Let it sit in the fridge for several days then strained and bottled it. Gave it away for Christmas gifts and still have people asking for it again. Might do it next week.

lindysalsagal

(20,684 posts)
4. We're in mental-illness territory, here.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:49 AM
Aug 2021

I'm not trying to make fun of people with psychological issues. But we will be a fragile society if we continue to ignore the needs of the conspiracy theorists.

Haggard Celine

(16,846 posts)
10. Yeah, we're seeing people who WANT to believe this shit.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:55 AM
Aug 2021

They believe the government and media are lying to them, so they believe Trump and the weirdest shit they can find on the internet are the arbiters of truth. It's a sickness, and these people need medication and education, I think.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
23. But for one thing
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:10 AM
Aug 2021

You don't choose what you believe.

You do choose what you expose yourself to, but you never decided to believe something or not.

People want to believe they choose their beliefs, but have you ever simply decided "I'm going to believe X", or "I'm going to stop believing X".

I'll tell you what, just as an experiment, for the next five minutes, believe that I'm a rare land octopus and I've found my way into a library internet terminal to post this message. Just for five minutes. You can go back to all of your beliefs and disbeliefs when the five minutes is up.

Can you do that? You can say you can, but if you are honest with yourself, you can't really decide that you are going to believe something relatively innocuous for the next five minutes only. You can't, because you just don't believe it, and you can't control what you believe.

lindysalsagal

(20,684 posts)
29. To some extent, I agree. But you can still listen and learn while believing one thing
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:24 AM
Aug 2021

and watch your beliefs change with new experiences. I see it every day. But that requires allowing yourself to become exposed to new ideas. This is why the cities are liberal: They can't avoid people from different cultures, even if they try. But small town living affords complete insulation from differences. It's true everywhere, not just in the US.

Haggard Celine

(16,846 posts)
36. Some people I've known have minds that are completely open.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

That's not a good thing, because they don't really have any standards when it comes to discerning truth from bullshit.

If you don't have any scientific knowledge, or if you put the scientific knowledge you know on the same level as the rumors your friends spread about each other on Facebook, then it's easy to accept statements that contradict that scientific knowledge.

Someone comes along and tells you that the Earth is flat, and you disregard what your teachers told you because they're part of the system, and they're paid by the government to tell kids certain things, lies that THEY want you to believe so you'll be easier to control. Do you WANT to believe the Earth is flat? It's hard to say, but the argument makes sense to you because your knowledge is so limited and you don't accept sources that have any connection with the government.

So people can choose what they believe, in a sense, or at least what they ACCEPT as truth, by what they expose themselves to. And if they follow a con artist, they start thinking like him, and this con artist is actually able to make himself believe things that he wants to believe. He's taught himself to do this over the years so he can be a more effective con artist.

It's a different way of thinking and looking at the world. These people think that virtually everything they've been taught in school or in church or seen in mass media is a lie. When you don't accept truth because you believe you're being lied to, then you choose to believe whatever lies people like Alex Jones tell you. This is where we are with these people, and it is a scary place!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
39. "by what they expose themselves to"
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:29 PM
Aug 2021

Yeah.

I've toyed with the idea, upon being accused of being "closed minded" when I have simply reached a conclusion on the basis of evidence contradicting what someone is selling me, of suddenly having an epiphany and deciding to believe everything.

"Why, yes, maybe you're right. I see it now. I've been closed minded. From now on I will believe everything. In fact, I'm not stopping at what you are telling me - I believe everyone! And I believe in the gods. Not just one god. I believe in ALL the gods! I've decided to become completely open minded!"

Nobody can out-open-mind me!

brush

(53,778 posts)
19. Yes, so many crazy people out there. And way more on the right it seems.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:03 AM
Aug 2021

They're going through all kind of effort to find horse paste?

WTH?

Just go to Walgreens and get the effin' shot, which is free won't cause you to start neighing to the moon.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
5. Those would be the geniuses who think vaccines are unsafe.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:49 AM
Aug 2021

But horse medicine for parasites is safe?

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
8. Many of them can't read so they might only be able to...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:54 AM
Aug 2021

Match the letters of ivermectin and that's all they look at.

bullimiami

(13,094 posts)
9. Isn't is madness that they will take all sorts of poisons
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:55 AM
Aug 2021

quack cures or drugs that have no effect but the one thing that does work they refuse?

I could get if they maybe didn’t trust mrna being so new so then take a conventional like the j&j.
But they are just swimming in madness.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
26. I heard horse piss works even better
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:17 AM
Aug 2021

But you have to drink a lot of it. I think I heard Mike Lindell say that.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
44. Sorry
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

Horse piss is already in use elsewhere. At least the mare piss that is. PREMARIN, hormone replacement for women who have had a hysterectomy or are in menopause. PREgnant MARe urIN PREMARIN

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
27. If they mix a cocktail of 1 cup bleach w/ 4 doses ivermectin & take 4 doses of hydroxychloroquine
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:19 AM
Aug 2021

all their worries will go away.

Mix the bleach with Sheep Drench, blend well, and then use it as a chaser with the hydroxychloroquine.

And aren't they the same ones always going on and on about the rapture? Well...

Forget your troubles
Come on get happy
You better chase all you cares away
Shout hallelujah
Come on get happy
Get ready for the judgment day


Just trying to be helpful.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
28. I hope they cleared eating paste through Eric first.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

I'm personally shocked. All this time they've been shooting horses with broken legs, when all they had to do was glue 'em back together again.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
31. I have to remind myself how many millions of Americans are vaccinated. Otherwise I will
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:35 AM
Aug 2021

lose all hope for America. This sounds like a bad SNL skit.

madville

(7,410 posts)
40. This is really popular in Central and South America
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:32 PM
Aug 2021

Brazil is doing the largest study now with 3500 people. There haven’t been any definitive results either way as far as ivermectin’s effectiveness but several studies are expected to be published by the end of the year covering around 30,000 people in the trials in different countries.

These are official studies of course and it very well could have some merit.

Sounds like all the Jim Bobs are buying out all the horse paste at Tractor Supply though because they saw a post in their survival forum lol.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
45. The real research I've read so far isn't promising
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 04:53 PM
Aug 2021

Basically, the active ingredient in Ivermectin so far only shows anti-viral properties in cell culture studies, when administered at a dosage far above what you'd get in commercial livestock medication. And in in-vivo studies when in the bloodstream, it binds to certain blood proteins that reduce it's activity to the point that you can't ingest enough to get anti-viral properties in living, breathing humans without risking serious bodily harm.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
49. Nothing surprises me anymore. I don't even bother arguing on facebook either.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:25 AM
Aug 2021

Let them think I'm a sheeple.

The other day I saw one meme claiming the CEO of Phizer would not take the vaccine. Not even 30 seconds I found where it pointed out it was false. Reported it, its still there.

Then another on how the Pandemic was planned for the big Pharma and Gubbmint to extract money from us. Some article quoting a youtube video and some Doctor....only he wasn't a doctor, just some schmuck who buys out what thinks are undervalued patents and makes money off of it. Think he was pissed that the CDC had a few that were related to COVID and they were giving it out freely to the world.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
50. "We won't get vaxed....Now if you'll excuse us, we're off to the farm store for animal medicine."
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:59 PM
Aug 2021

I have seen this drug promoted on the RWNJ sites.


LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
51. Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever'
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:14 PM
Aug 2021

The RWNJ sites are really pushing this quack cure. This medicine is for horse deworming




Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had “no effect whatsoever” on the disease, according to a large patient study.

That’s the conclusion of the Together Trial, which has subjected several purported nonvaccine treatments for COVID-19 to carefully designed clinical testing. The trial is supervised by McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada, and conducted in Brazil.....

Among the 1,500 patients in the study, he said, Ivermectin showed “no effect whatsoever” on the trial’s outcome goals — whether patients required extended observation in the emergency room or hospitalization.

“In our specific trial,” he said, “we do not see the treatment benefit that a lot of the advocates believe should have been” seen.....

The findings on Ivermectin are yet another blow for advocates promoting the drug as a magic bullet against COVID-19. Ivermectin was developed as a treatment for parasitical diseases, mostly for veterinarians, though it’s also used against some human parasites.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
52. Please tell them to eat rat poison
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

Just a spoonful in KoolAid and you’ll feel
right as rain.

I promise your covid symptoms will stop immediately.

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