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snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:42 AM Aug 2021

Just ended an online conversation

with an anti vaxer who badgered my niece on FB after she posted a got vaxed photo. She went on and on about all the people she knew who suffered horrendous illness from the vaccine. Now I've lived a long time, know many people and have a large family. Not one of them suffered any serious reactions. Anyone know a good comeback to say to these fools?

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Just ended an online conversation (Original Post) snowybirdie Aug 2021 OP
Two words, "You're lying." blm Aug 2021 #1
This unweird Aug 2021 #4
Good! StarryNite Aug 2021 #12
Yes, when people post outrageous assertions like that, PatSeg Aug 2021 #19
Ok. Why did this never occur to me? Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #23
"Fuck off" Aviation Pro Aug 2021 #2
MINE, TOO! Short and sweet. FUCK... OFF! CurtEastPoint Aug 2021 #7
How about "Cool story, sis'."? thucythucy Aug 2021 #3
I would have probably ended the conversation with some of my Navy language. Chainfire Aug 2021 #5
Ask her to name names and exactly what their "horrendous illnesses" were. Ocelot II Aug 2021 #6
It's almost impossible to discuss anything with right wing nut jobs KS Toronado Aug 2021 #8
report them and block them blogslug Aug 2021 #9
I'm reminded of something my Grandpa told me. griffi94 Aug 2021 #10
She needs to delite the crap from the anti-vaxer PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #11
Goodbye? brooklynite Aug 2021 #13
The bigger problem is your niece - she needs to block this stuff. Dan Aug 2021 #14
It depends on if you care what said nutjob thinks or does... Hugin Aug 2021 #15
Besides telling her she's an idiot, say that nobody has ever died from the vaccine, they've died Liberal In Texas Aug 2021 #16
Many, many years ago when I was a kid -- Grammy23 Aug 2021 #17
I know of Tens of Millions that have Died or had Physical Harm. DontBelieveEastisEas Aug 2021 #18
I keep hearing "so-and-so's friend is dying from the vaccine" mainer Aug 2021 #20
Block them? Treefrog Aug 2021 #21
The arguments are ones that people like her are primed to not accept. Politicub Aug 2021 #22
I would unfriend and block such a person. ananda Aug 2021 #24
"Name one person you know who suffered a horrendous illness." zuul Aug 2021 #25
Sure! Grins Aug 2021 #26

blm

(113,052 posts)
1. Two words, "You're lying."
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:45 AM
Aug 2021

When they say they aren’t lying then you reply with two more words, “Prove it.”

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
19. Yes, when people post outrageous assertions like that,
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:59 AM
Aug 2021

I keep it very short - "That's not true" is more than enough. Sometimes I add a smiley, which I'm sure annoys the crap out of them. They are just baiting people and looking for an argument. It would be a waste of time and energy to explain the evidence and known facts.

Some people just like to fight.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
23. Ok. Why did this never occur to me?
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:11 PM
Aug 2021

This isn't even snark! That is the perfect response and it never occurred to me!

thucythucy

(8,048 posts)
3. How about "Cool story, sis'."?
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:48 AM
Aug 2021

Chances are good to excellent that anyone who says they know lots of people suffering horrendous illness from the vaccine is probably bullshitting.

Ask them for some kind of proof, and see what happens.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
6. Ask her to name names and exactly what their "horrendous illnesses" were.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:54 AM
Aug 2021

Ask whether those illness identified by a doctor as having been caused by the vaccine. Tell her if she's going to be spreading that kind of nonsense she'd better be able to back it up with actual proof.

KS Toronado

(17,220 posts)
8. It's almost impossible to discuss anything with right wing nut jobs
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 10:56 AM
Aug 2021

Tell her when she gets the delta variant you hope she kills one or more of her loved ones with it.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
10. I'm reminded of something my Grandpa told me.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:07 AM
Aug 2021

"Boy, never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig."

Dan

(3,554 posts)
14. The bigger problem is your niece - she needs to block this stuff.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:21 AM
Aug 2021

Now it anti-vaxers , tomorrow it will be ?

You need to protect her from the craziness of the internet - or it could be the death of her or the person she is. Protect her until she learns to protect herself.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
15. It depends on if you care what said nutjob thinks or does...
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021

If not ask them if they've always been a liar or if this is something new.

Otherwise, any conversation is a waste of time.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
16. Besides telling her she's an idiot, say that nobody has ever died from the vaccine, they've died
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

because they didn't get the vaccine.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
17. Many, many years ago when I was a kid --
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

my family was going on vacation to Mexico. At the time the authorities recommended getting typhoid shots prior to going so my mom took my sister and me to get the vaccine. She and my father also got it because the water in Mexico was notorious for making people sick. We were sick with fever for a couple of days after getting the shot. Our arms were quite red and sore at the injection site. Within a couple of days we were fine and back to normal.

So while we had a “reaction” to the vaccine, it was still better than getting typhoid on our trip and probably having to cut the trip short to come home for treatment. The two days of reacting to the vaccine was a small price to pay for getting protection from a disease that could have killed us.

Any inconvenience or short term illness from the Covid vaccine is far better than the risks of remaining unvaccinated and possibly facing long haul Covid or even death.

Consider THAT.
18. I know of Tens of Millions that have Died or had Physical Harm.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:46 AM
Aug 2021
people she knew who suffered horrendous illness from the vaccine.

Mother Nature will vaccinate almost every un-vaccinated person. The Mother Nature vaccine has killed millions of people and tens of million others that were given the vaccine by Mother Nature have damaged bodies. Whether it be lungs, brain, heart, blood vessels or all of the above.

I know many of them, and knew many of them, personally.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
20. I keep hearing "so-and-so's friend is dying from the vaccine"
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:01 PM
Aug 2021

But it's never anyone we know personally. It's always "a friend of a friend."

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
22. The arguments are ones that people like her are primed to not accept.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:12 PM
Aug 2021

There are no magic words. There may be a pithy comeback that could devise, but that will only chum the waters with troll food.

Here's a link to the facts:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html

You could post the link, and cut and paste some of the pertinent information in your post.

Helping others in your family is the right attitude when it comes to replying to anti-vaxxers.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
25. "Name one person you know who suffered a horrendous illness."
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 01:27 PM
Aug 2021

She’s lying. She doesn’t know any because there aren’t any. And some anonymous source on the internet doesn’t count.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
26. Sure!
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 04:39 PM
Aug 2021

“Let’s make a game of it. You name one who died from the vaccine - and I’ll name one MILLION who didn’t! GO!”

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