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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 02:55 PM Aug 2021

Why MAGA isn't Happy for Gregg Popovich And Team USA Basketball Winning Gold




From time to time, Gregg Popovich, the coach of the United States men’s national basketball team—which won a gold medal last night at the Tokyo Olympics with an 87–82, as-close-as-it-sounds victory over France—suggests a mad poet howling from a windy hillside.

Gray-bearded all of the time and splenetic much of it, “Pop,” as he’s known throughout the basketball world, is rarely happy about his team’s performances, questions from the media, or, since the coming of Trump, the soul of America in general. His off-the-cuff comments about the former president (see “soulless coward,” “deranged idiot, “fool,” among others) and his continuing criticism of conservative causes such as election-law revision have earned him supporters on the left and myriad critics on the right, who see him as a grumpy avatar for a league that is far too “woke.” LeBron James is instructed to shut up and dribble, Pop to shut up and diagram the plays.

However, many of those unfamiliar with Popovich have no idea that he is straight-up military, a graduate of the Air Force Academy who served five years of active duty as an intelligence officer and once considered a career in the CIA. In that respect he is a version of the late John McCain, whose bravery and fortitude as a POW were lampooned by a draft dodger with sore feet.

There are many sides to Pop, famously an oenophile and a well-read conversationalist with a wicked sense of humor. But among the subjects least likely to stir the sunshine that resides deep inside of the man—at least before this weekend—is the Olympics, his personal bête noir. A half century ago Popovich was devastated when he was cut from the 1972 Olympic team: His tough, disciplined style of play wasn’t quite enough to earn him a spot on the star-crossed U.S. team that lost a controversial gold-medal game to the Soviet Union. Decades later he was an assistant coach on two haphazardly assembled national teams, one that finished sixth in the 2002 FIBA World Championships, and the 2004 U.S. Olympic team that earned only a bronze in Athens and much enmity from an American public who still believed that the U.S. could snap its fingers and win gold because every other nation was still dribbling the ball off its feet. Throughout those Athens Games it was Popovich who was left to explain, best he could, some of the personnel decisions made by Larry Brown, one of his mentors. Loyal soldier that he was, he did it. Popovich that he was, he hated it.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/olympian-struggles-gregg-popovich/619673/
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Why MAGA isn't Happy for Gregg Popovich And Team USA Basketball Winning Gold (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 OP
One Nit To Pick ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #1
What the fuck ARE they happy about? Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #2
When people who don't look like them are suffering. /nt localroger Aug 2021 #8
I don't think that makes them happy. They just couldn't care less. Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #23
You really don't want the answer to that question. paleotn Aug 2021 #16
Absolutely nothing! Initech Aug 2021 #26
After the way they treated the Capitol police that testified about 1/6.... TheRealNorth Aug 2021 #3
Preach. I adore Max Cleland. We miss him still. nt crickets Aug 2021 #11
Bingo. paleotn Aug 2021 #18
I'll never stop hating them for what they did to Cleland. Johnyawl Aug 2021 #20
On talk radio They are expressing joy over US losses involving "woke" athletes such as womens soccer Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #4
They can cry harder. We easily won the Olympics in total medals. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #5
Who gives a flying leap Nikossitti Aug 2021 #6
I'm happy they're not happy. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #7
Pop is an outspoken Trump critic LeftInTX Aug 2021 #9
As was his assistant coach at the Olympics Steve Kerr. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #10
MAGAts are a miserable and hateful group IronLionZion Aug 2021 #12
and they don't even like anyone dianaredwing Aug 2021 #15
If you think the MAGAts are mad now. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2021 #13
Congrats Coach Popovich - arguably the best career pro coach evah. Tommymac Aug 2021 #14
Certainly in the modern era where player had rights. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #25
K&R UTUSN Aug 2021 #17
It's everybody they don't like. Iggo Aug 2021 #19
pox ramana on magats and congrats for pops and team. get a brian u moran magots . AllaN01Bear Aug 2021 #21
Gregg Popovich is a great coach and I am proud of the US team LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #22
I'm so happy for them MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #24
I'm happy for Durant. I don't much follow the NBA. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #27

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
1. One Nit To Pick
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:01 PM
Aug 2021

The game was NOT as close as it sounds.
Near the end, the French team was puking up bad shots that kept bouncing in.
There's no defense against luck.
The scoreboard showed a run at the end of the game, but I never got the feeling this was going to be anything but a win, even when Lillard, a very good shooter, missed 2 free throws.
The rest of the article; m'eh.
I don't care why troglodytes are rooting against an american team.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
3. After the way they treated the Capitol police that testified about 1/6....
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 03:16 PM
Aug 2021

Can't say I am surprised.

What made me realize that loyalty and the "Support the Troops" was conditional was when they ran ads comparing Max Cleland to Osama Bin Laden. If leaving 3 limbs on the battlefield isn't enough to earn some respect even when you disagree - nothing is.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
20. I'll never stop hating them for what they did to Cleland.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:56 PM
Aug 2021

I love Max, I got to meet him while he was campaigning for Kerry in '04.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
12. MAGAts are a miserable and hateful group
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:19 PM
Aug 2021

who cares if they're happy? They're mostly only happy when bad things happen to people they don't like.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
15. and they don't even like anyone
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:36 PM
Aug 2021

at least not a human being, money, power, the spot light, but not flesh and blood human beings.

DinahMoeHum

(21,788 posts)
13. If you think the MAGAts are mad now. . .
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:27 PM
Aug 2021

. . .they'll go apoplectic at the USA Women's basketball team. They play for the gold medal tonight. (10:30 pm EDT)

All of the players on the roster are in the WNBA, including Sue Bird, Megan Rapinoe's partner. As with the USWNT in soccer, there are a number of "out" athletes among them.

There is also that matter of the ESPN documentary 144, which is well worth seeing.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/05/144-review-espn-wnba-bubble-documentary-1234637152/

The film wastes little time addressing one of the other main issues that those with only a glancing knowledge of the WNBA could be familiar with: During her time as one of Georgia’s two U.S. Senators, Kelly Loeffler was also an owner of the Atlanta Dream WNBA franchise. “144” offers some insight into the “Vote Warnock” T-shirts that players wore in response to Loeffler’s comments about the Black Lives Matter movement and political statements from athletes. Everyone who speaks about the decision is unapologetic. In a way, the existence of this film and the breadth of bubble experiences it manages to capture (in addition to the Rev. Raphael Warnock’s eventual victory. . .) is their vindication.




Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
14. Congrats Coach Popovich - arguably the best career pro coach evah.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 05:30 PM
Aug 2021

He is awesome. A true coaching living legend.



GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. Certainly in the modern era where player had rights.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:20 PM
Aug 2021

Can you imagine a MAGA NBA coach? His players would rebel. And most of the younger coaches played in a league dominated by people of color. Steve Kerr the assistant coach and real young(to me) is on the same page.

It’s the same with football coaches.

If MAGA fans keep swearing off sports where civil rights matter all they will have left is cornhole. And not ironically the cornhole championship was shown on national TV. The beautiful part is they miss the irony.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. I'm happy for Durant. I don't much follow the NBA.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:40 PM
Aug 2021

But he seems a generally nice guy and although one of the most popular NBA stars gets overlooked.

I wish we had put together another dream team in one way. But I kind of like us having players that make games competitive.

Last night I watched highlights from the 92 Dream Team. And it was. Bird, Magic, Drexler, Malone(Karl), Stockton, Barkley, and of course Jordan. It was like the Harlem Globetrotters vs the generals. The opposing players were in awe and move out of the lane when a US player drove. They were spectators watching the future of basketball. Plus you want to take a full speed charge from Barkley? Best player to never win a championship.

But that team changed world basketball. There are some really good teams we face. They would not be there without the 92 team. It like the world watched and realized how the game was really played with great athletes.


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