Trump is credibly accused of sexual assault / rape of at least 29 women.

[onecaliberal]

WHEN will he face a legitimate investigation and consequences. Matt Gaetz is a human sex trafficker, still sitting in congress. Until something is done about these people, I can’t be bothered to get all lathered up about Cuomo.

[CurtEastPoint]

1. Don't forget Hot Wheels Cawthorn.

[Roy Rolling]

30. Tee hee

“Hot Wheels” Cawthorn. I’m empowered to say he is a disgrace among wheelchair users because I must use one now myself. Fuck him, he makes disabled people look like morons. He gets no sympathy from me because his legs don’t work. Mine don’t either but my brain still works.

[CurtEastPoint]

39. Nailed it. His brain and his legs are both non functioning. Wheelchair provides him mobility but...

the brain? Lost cause.

[FoxNewsSucks]

2. IOKIYAR

I'm so sick of the hypocrisy and double standard.

[smirkymonkey]

59. Same here. What Cuomo did was wrong, but for some reason I can't seem to muster up

any anger while all these republican predators are still out on the loose. It's just bullshit

[Bettie]

3. Short answer? Never

Rich (or appearing-rich) white Republican men generally get away with everything they do.

There are a few outliers who have paid for their criminal activities, mostly because they crossed other rich white dudes.

I would love to see some of them receive some consequences, but I don't see it ever happening.

[rambler_american]

38. There are a few outliers who have paid for their criminal activities, mostly because they crossed o

There are a few outliers who have paid for their criminal activities, mostly because they crossed other rich white dudes.

Notably Bernie Madoff. He robbed rich people and paid the price.

[pwb]

4. And he couldn't govern for shit.

.

[kairos12]

5. My guess is DADDY Gaetz will get Pedo Gaetz free from charges. It never ends.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Saying you're willing to throw some victims under the bus because your political enemies haven't

been brought to justice is not a great look, but okay.

[Budi]

8. That's not what the OP is saying at all.

The Hypocrisy is the point.

Never said a word about throwing any victims under the bus.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. If a person wants both Cuomo and Trump to get justice, there is no hypocrisy.

Deciding not to give a shit about some cases until Republicans give a shit about some cases is a great way for no one to get justice. Republicans don't care if they're hypocrites; I'm not interested in Democrats being hypocrites to dunk on Republican hypocrisy.

[Budi]

16. WOW. That's quite a twist on the OP's statenent.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. Maybe I have a different understanding of "I can't be bothered to get all lathered up" than the OP

does.

[ShazzieB]

33. I don't think that was a twist on the OP's statement at all.

I think that's exactly was implied. Whether that was the OP's intention or not, I don't know. There may be more than one possible interpretation, but I think that was certainly a valid one.

I'll admit I'm probably somewhat biased, because I'm a bit weary of statements like "Until something is done about these people, I can’t be bothered to get all lathered up about Cuomo." Whatever TFG or any other Republican may have gotten away with has absolutely no bearing on what Cuomo is alleged to have done or how it should be addressed.

[onecaliberal]

9. I care about the survivors, I AM ONE.

With all due respect, the look of a country who worships a white supremacist hitler want to be is far worse.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. "I can't be bothered to get all lathered up about Cuomo."

How is this caring about survivors?

[onecaliberal]

15. Okay why don't you mansplain to me some more.

You obviously care about some survivors but not others. By demanding justice in one side you’re declaring the same.


Enjoy the dust bin,

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. .

You obviously care about some survivors but not others. By demanding justice in one side you’re declaring the same.

Saying it's a crap look to not care about some survivors is not demanding justice on only one side, but okay.

[ShazzieB]

35. Whoa.

That's pretty much the opposite of what WhiskeyGrinder has been saying. They have been arguing against throwing any victims under the bus.

[Dr. Strange]

50. Wait...

You obviously care about some survivors but not others.

That's the OP's position. I haven't heard anyone say they can't get worked up about Trump's victims. I'm only hearing some people say that they can't get worked up about Cuomo's victims.

[Budi]

7. MEANWHILE: Trump needs that NY pardon. He held a rally of NY pukes & Proud Boys in Westchester..

..rallying his Republicans for the coming Gov election.
Only the NY Gov can pardon Trump & fam in State charges.
He's well on top of this as its his only out.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Ford_Prefect]

26. That was the warm-up for the fully armed event on Aug.11-13

If the posse in my area is anything to go by they are itching to fight someone somewhere, and they are getting ready to do it. Lots of testosterone in the air, a flock of angry flag pickups on the roads, and tactical black or camo outfits are the fashion.

[PoliticAverse]

44. "He's well on top of this" - lol. No he's not. n/t

[smirkymonkey]

60. I still don't understand why they want to free ANTIFA, BLM and the FBI?

I thought they were sworn enemies?

[Ms. Toad]

10. Becasue the women assaulted by Cuomo don't matter

because the judicial system did not address others?

By that reasoning, we should not address any crimes, because not all are prosecuted.

We need to hold our own accountable, because people have been hurt by Coumo - and it is not a progressive value to ignore people who are harmed, for the sake of political expediency.

[Budi]

13. The OP never said "they don't" matter did she/he.

Not at all.

The OP is addressing the blatant HYPOCRISY we are forced to accept.

Some of us are really NOT ok with the HYPOCRISY.
No one said the women assaulted by Cuomo don't matter.

The point is, Do those assaulted by Trump matter too?

[Ms. Toad]

19. It is certainly a reasonable inference from the assertion

I can’t be bothered to get all lathered up about Cuomo.

If I was one of the women harassed by Cuomo, I would certainly feel I was being told what Cuomo did to me didn't matter to the OP.

[ShazzieB]

41. Exactly!

It truly sucks what some Republican politicians* have gotten away with. But that does NOT mean we shouldn't get "all lathered up" about what Cuomo has been accused of.

*Gaetz hasn't gotten with his misdeeds YET, and I think there is reason to hope he won't, so let's not jump the gun on that one.

[tonedevil]

29. If the women Gov. Cuomo...

harrased and assaulted matter why should he go free until Republicans are brought to justice?

[smirkymonkey]

63. Exactly!

All Women Matter! Even those assaulted by republican politicians and it's far past the time when they should be held accountable.

[jaxexpat]

47. Okay, you're right, of course.

It doesn't change the fact that Progressives would look and BE pretty stupid to put Cuomo in the defendant's chair before Trump sees his moment of justice. It's the sort of purity that undermines our trustworthiness as people able to appreciate the actual degree of intentional harm. For example, Al Franken.

It's the same basic sensibility and personal equation of justice distilled into absolutism that animates the people who dedicate their lives to picketing abortion clinics. They're not fundamentally wrong but they are denying the complexity and ignoring the competitive priorities.

Okay, Pile on.

[Ms. Toad]

56. So let's push that a little farther.

Should Derek Chauvin not have been tried because we have not yet brought to justice police who committed similar crimes against Blacks earlier?

It's not a matter of politics, or competitive priorities. If a wrong was done - especially to a disadvantaged group - we need to stop pointing our fingers at the other side and say "They were worse (sub voce and too bad, so sad that those women have to be sacrificed for politics)" We need to right the wrong, especially if it is someone that the Democratic Party might have influence over.

[jaxexpat]

64. But never at the cost of winning elections because.......

without serving elected offices we have no ability to right any wrongs because we don't exist at all and our best intentions and desires are nothing buy perpetual protest. If you can figure out a means wherein justice gets served without electing judicious people to power I'm all ears. Ugly truths are unsavory.

Prosecuting Chauvin was important because it was an act of successful public protest. The success was not eliminating one or two bad cops from their service. It was the exemplification of what is wrong and how to fix it for police forces across the country. The reform is a process. Like maintaining a campfire. It requires tending and occasionally more fuel or it will go out and cold.

If I thought red state GOP voters would change their habits and begin to vote Democratic by the removal and public excoriation of Cuomo I'd be all for it. But barring that eventuality, I see it as probable loss of support for Democrats in an already divided state.

BTW, I hate it that my logic is probably right.

[Sympthsical]

11. Let's not do the right thing because Trump doesn't

It's a defense, I'll give it that.

A terrible one.

Either we care about women or we don't.

This is a very simple equation.

[totodeinhere]

20. Trump, Gaetz and Cuomo were all asked to resign.

And of course all refused. But I am not going to let that fact stop me from criticizing any of the three including Cuomo. I am not going to let the existence of Trump allow Cuomo to get a pass. The type of conduct Cuomo has been alleged to have committed is unacceptable whether it's Cuomo who did it or anyone else including Trump or Gaetz.

[kimbutgar]

21. I agree 100%

All this media criticizing Cuomo while a serial rapist child molester is getting off scot free. Until justice is done to him I am yawning over this Cuomo story.

That said what Cuomo has done is disgusting and gross and he needs consequences for his sleaze ball behavior.

[triron]

24. Seems like democrats eat their own.

[smirkymonkey]

61. Cuomo was creepy and inappropriate, but Trump was violent, intimidating and definitely meant harm

toward the women he was going after and so did Gaetz. They were all wrong, but there are degrees of harm and Cuomo is not in the same league as these other two bloated ticks of filth.

[kimbutgar]

62. Exactly !

[triron]

22. Me neither. Democrats exhibit unusuall malevalence toward their own while remaining timid against

the ilk of Trump and Gaetz.

[SayItLoud]

23. I receive 2 or 3 requests per day for financial support;

of candidates and Dem causes. I've hit pause until I see some movement on holding #tfg and his cohorts accountable on the coup and sexual abuse. Just sayin...giving gotta get too.

[treestar]

25. Those who say we should not be like Rs

have no answer to the disadvantage we take and apparently we should just suck it up. Too bad. Our guys have to pay for it because they are not Republicans. Not a single suggestion.

[BaronChocula]

27. It bears repeating

Don't stop!

[Jon King]

28. Completely disagree, Dems have the power to remove Cuomo and they should.

Dems in NY have the power to impeach Cuomo for his horrid behavior. And that is exactly what they should do.

Dems overall can pressure Congress to investigate Trump, that is what they should do. Dems can assist the Manhattan DA in their investigation.

Dems should root for the prosecutors in the Gaetz case to find enough evidence to charge him and put him away for as long as possible.

All of these things are the right thing to do. None of these are mutually exclusive. Dems should use whatever power they have in each situation. In the Cuomo case, Dems have the power and should use it.

The women harmed in the Cuomo case need justice and not giving it to them because of Trump and Gaetz is wrong.

[BlueSky3]

32. +1,000

Thanks. They are not mutually exclusive.

[leftyladyfrommo]

31. I am with you on that. nt

[twodogsbarking]

34. Seems like there are some holes in our justice system.

Not unlike our tax system.

[Quixote1818]

36. I have been screaming this since the beginning of the Cuomo story broke out.

It's total bullshit!

[Evolve Dammit]

37. Since FBI botched Kavanaugh investigation, can that be re-opened? That was a travesty. Thomas too

[Duppers]

42. Indeed.

[marieo1]

43. Reps are despicable

Thank you.........I can't either....if Cuomo has to go they should get rid of a lot of the Republicans!!! Including Matt Gaetz, DJT (I still can't stand to see his face or name anywhere), Kavanaugh, Cawthorn, Jackson, and lots more, these people are despicable and proud of it.

[NNadir]

45. I'm harder on my own family than I am on strangers. That's just me. n/t.

[onecaliberal]

46. I have one expectation. The law applied to everyone, everywhere, equally.

Full stop!

[Wavelight]

48. You should be lathered up about what Cuomo has done...

[Katinfl]

49. I feel exactly the same

Spare me the outrage. What Cuomo is accused of is inexcusable and I don’t for one minute condone it. But when TFG was accused by a hell of a lot more women for over a much longer time, some overlooked it and voted for him instead. So, like I said, spare me the fake outrage.

[onecaliberal]

51. 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

[Kaleva]

52. I won't get lathered up about Cuomo if he resigns or is impeached and removed from office.

It's my opinion that he ought to resign but I'm in no position to influence the outcome in any way so what happens will happen.

We do know that many here busted their ass in helping to successfully remove TFG from office.

[onecaliberal]

53. The 84 million people who voted for Biden/Harris removed

The traitor.

[Kaleva]

54. And you agree that many here knocked on doors, made phone calls, donated money

in the successful effort to remove TFG from office. Back in 2016 Hillary was well aware of what kind of man TFG was and she gave it her all in an effort to prevent him from gaining office in the first place.

One cant claim nothing was done about TFG.

[Maru Kitteh]

55. Ron Desantis approves mightily of your argument.

"until you do your job, I don't want to hear a blip about COVID." - Ron Desantis - equating Biden's action on the border to his own utter failure on COVID.

See, one has exactly Jack Shit to do with the other.

Republicans love this kind of rudimentary grammar-school level "debate."

But thanks for throwing women under the bus in your "whataboutism" non-argument justification for excusing the predatory sexual behavior of a man because tribalism.

Fuck that shit.

[MFM008]

57. That was my point as well

I dont care. Period.
Everytime i hear it if the news is on i change it to Columbo
Or something. In fact it's pretty much what I've been doing with the news lately anyway.

[Blue Owl]

58. K&R