Been thinking about the next presidential election. Yes, I know it's early, but just for the hell of

[CTyankee]

it, please indulge me.

I was daydreaming earlier today about 1) Biden deciding not to run and 2) Kamala Harris wanting the nomination of the Democratic Party.

I am going on the assumption that Joe Biden is successful in getting the economy recovery and creating a fair and just economic system in place. The Republican Party has diminished itself (due to repubs not getting the vaccine and dying in significant numbers).

We will be experiencing not only a recovery but enormous gains in the health care of this nation and to a large extent a fairer economy, investment in education, science and the arts. We are, to a larger extent, a healthier, happier country.

I know we don't have crystal balls to look into but just for something positive to look for, who do we decide to lead us? Will the current Republicans wake up or die, leaving the GOP leaderless and moriibund? And will we at last have a woman president?

Just something I was thinking about today...

[Bayard]

1. Mr. Bayard and I were discussing this topic this morning

Will Kamala be popular enough to turn out the vote nationwide? Can she prevail against the whackadoodles and prejudice?

[Tomconroy]

2. I expect Joe to run. If he doesn't, there will be

About a dozen candidates.

[PortTack]

15. This..and a dozen really good good candidates

[Pantagruel]

3. Your scenario

"We will be experiencing not only a recovery but enormous gains in the health care of this nation and to a large extent a fairer economy, investment in education, science and the arts. We are, to a larger extent, a healthier, happier country."

Seems to me quite unrealistic in a country where 1 of 3 voters appears willing to work against it.
Sorry, I just calls 'em as I see 'em.

[CTyankee]

8. I would agree if it werent for the fact that 1 in 3 are willing to die because they didn't believe

in vaccination against Covid. There is a case where stupidity and ignorance effectively gets a republican voter dead and can't vote. Now this all depends on how successful voter suppression turns out, coupled with death by despair as they don't get jobs, no money, no vaccine simply kills them off eventually. That is why those states legislators are working so hard in red states to supress votes. They know they are outnumbered.

[Demsrule86]

12. I would also like to point out that a bunch of folks including

my husband are laid off.

[Sneederbunk]

4. Meanwhile, I am thinking only of the 22 Elections.

[Demsrule86]

7. I agree. And are we resdy to run a woman presideny? I hope do. I believe a VP would need

to be picked that could help us with the rust belt. Best case scenario is Biden runs for a second term.

[Demsrule86]

5. I hope that doesnt happen as se lose the value of incumbency.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. "a fair and just economic system in place."

What sort of things are hallmarks of this system? What does that look like?

enormous gains in the health care of this nation

Gains like what?

fairer economy, investment in education, science and the arts.

What sort of things have indicated to you that TPTB are working toward this?

[CTyankee]

10. That's the Democratic Party's agenda. Look at blue states vs. red states currently.

Red states are desperately trying to discourage more voting. At the same time the red states are experiencing raises in death rates due to Covid.

Basically put, the Democratic Party will outlive the Republican Party.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Yeah it just seems like the assumptions you've made are extremely optimistic and vague.

[PortTack]

18. Even if they don't die, 30% will suffer long covid. Just getting out of bed and catching their

Breath will be a monumental effort. I doubt voting will be high on their list

[lastlib]

9. I don't think we'll see republiqans dying in such numbers

that it will have an impact. Six hundred thousand people died in the "tRump waves." Numerically, that is a drop in the bucket relative to the number of votes cast in 2020--not nearly enough to alter the outcome of a presidential election. We're getting much better at treating the viruses; doubtful we will lose a comparable number again.

[CTyankee]

11. Yes, but you have to look at the Covid situation as a model for the future, dystopic as it is.

The younger, healthier and smarter voters win. Those would be Democrats.

[Diamond_Dog]

14. I hope I'm wrong

My sister is a Republican but she’s not a Wackadoodle Republican. (She is highly in favor of vaccinations.)She can’t stand Kamala and thinks that if Kamala wins the WH “everything will be all about race with her.” I have a feeling most Republicans would agree with that since most of them are racist. I would love to see Kamala in the WH but wow it would be close and with all the voter suppression being passed by so many states, I wonder about her chances.

[CTyankee]

16. I sure hope your sister will be one to reform the Republican Party or better yet, become a Democrat.

Don't you think the Republicans are gonna say "It's all about race" with ANY Democrat we nominate?
We can't let them define us negatively on race.

[Diamond_Dog]

17. She will never become a Democrat

That I can tell you. She is strongly anti abortion and many other hard beliefs that I don’t see changing any time soon. And I’m sure you’re right that many Republicans think Joe is “all about race” too.