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(4,619 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)But then I've read so many books of that genre it's hard to keep track.
RussBLib
(9,045 posts)...as if it has any relevance to today at all.
...and say that God would not "allow" us to destroy the Earth.
...as often as that "good book" has been proven wrong, and as ignorant as they were back then, why people still cling to it is beyond me, and rather depressing. Major SMDH.
...did you notice how many religious symbols were mixed in with the Jan 6 terrorists? Fucking white supremacist, Christian Nationalists.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Even an all-out nuclear war will not destroy the Earth. But don't worry, the sun will do that eventually.
Caliman73
(11,755 posts)No need for an asteroid impact or a gamma ray burst, or the sun to go red giant and incinerate the earth. We will make our environment toxic so that neither we, nor any other mammal can live on it, WAY before any of those other things happen.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Lettuce Be
(2,337 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)for humanity, it is not necessary to abandon religion to understand and care about the climate crisis.
Goonch
(3,618 posts)alwaysinasnit
(5,077 posts)"There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know."
dalton99a
(81,656 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)to insult Christians here on DU. While it is frowned upon to insult every other group. Many of us lifelong Democrats are in the category of fools. How about reading the Quran, the Tanakh, and other religious writings are they included in the list of books fools read as well? Yes, there are extremists in our religion but that is true for most groups. Joe Biden is a fool, Barack Obama is a fool, Hillary Clinton is a fool. Many of us black voters are fools. I'm in good company.
Maybe you can encourage others without insulting them. Reading both can also be okay. Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing.
jimfields33
(16,048 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)I understand that people get frustrated with all the things that a certain subset of "Christians" are putting us all through, so I try to overlook the slights. I know that, for the most part, that other DU'ers don't really mean to be insulting to people like us.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,993 posts)as an agnostic, I will certainly question them if they try to tell me the Bible is 100% infallible and unchallengable as the holy word of God.
I believe in freedom of religion and also freedom from religion if one wishes it that way.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)I see Dominionists and some other fundamentalists, for example,, as psychotic and dangerous enemies of democracy and freedom.
Raine
(30,541 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)And one's opinion does not excuse the rude and insensitive remarks geared towards others those of Christian faith. I am a living proof. I won't divulge my business here. My faith in God will not waiver. It has withstood many atrocities. It is a strong protective factor for my mental health as well as many others.
The same folks who class Christians as fools, vote for them time and time again. Yet believers in God are the ones with the judgment issue. Okay.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)I agreed 100%. Hence, no need for pointless discourse and unsolicited opinions.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)None of us know for sure how we got here or what happens to us after we die. A person of faith feel that they do know. You have your faith and you use that as a guidepost. I am a Deist and I have had situations where I have been at my wits end and out of nowhere, a solution comes to my mind, I follow it and I am ok. But I am not and can never be a Christian, or Muslim or any other faith that believes in a savior. My church is the world around me every waking second, I am at peace with that.
Dont care about what other people think of your faith. As you pointed out, you have had occurrences in your life that have deepened your faith, that is all you should care about, IMO.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:12 PM - Edit history (1)
Im not a follower of any organized religion, but I find it hypocritical that one religion is almost always allowed to be insulted here.
Happy Hoosier
(7,446 posts).... at those who value religious belief over actual evidence.
I get that faith is important to many people, whether I understand it or not. But many of the worst people in the world claim some kind of religious kinship with you. I know you don't endorse that.
maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)I reserve most of my ire for literal interpretations of any of its books.
lindysalsagal
(20,770 posts)Translated superstition.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)In fact they said best history book. I think they should look at something a little more current and up dated.
triron
(22,028 posts)Guess God decided to stop writing 2000 years ago.
hunter
(38,339 posts)... but the book itself is an important part of human history.
To understand the present we must understand the past and that's how we make the world a better place.
I'm a radical environmentalist, amateur evolutionary biologist (with some formal training), and a Christian heretic.
If I was Emperor of Earth there would be a lot of changes. You'd probably disagree many of them.
I think a lot of people who fiercely reject religion have had bad experiences with religions of the stupid sort.
One of my favorite paleontology professors escaped a Fundamentalist Christian upbringing deciding it was more likely that the preachers of his childhood religion were liars than the fossil record. Somehow in his youth he'd acquired critical thinking skills.
Anti-intellectual religions have always flourished in the U.S.A. much to the detriment of the nation itself.
I'm much more at home with atheists than I am with any flavor of anti-intellectual religionists.
Too many people worship asshole gods and/or align themselves with toxic "isms."
The worst people in the world don't live by any systems of ethics at all.
No, Trump voter, Trump doesn't give a fuck if you live, suffer, or die. All he cares about is what you can do for him.
My own system of ethics is firmly rooted in Social Justice Catholicism and Christian Pacifism. Can't help that, it's the environment I grew up in, and the community I live in. It's highly compatible with other flavors of humanism.
On the other hand, I can also be a misanthropist. A million years from now our civilization is just a curious layer of trash in the geologic record.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)right or wrong millions of people believe in. Anyone with half a brain should realize that.
maxsolomon
(33,432 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)commentary.
Beliefs are precious to a person, we should respect that reality, even when we dont see the matters of our existence as others do. Although I may not believe as another person does, I dont pushback on them unless they get into my face first.