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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,176 posts)
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:10 PM Aug 2021

Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever'

The RWNJ sites are really pushing this quack cure. This medicine is for horse deworming




Ivermectin, the latest supposed treatment for COVID-19 being touted by anti-vaccination groups, had “no effect whatsoever” on the disease, according to a large patient study.

That’s the conclusion of the Together Trial, which has subjected several purported nonvaccine treatments for COVID-19 to carefully designed clinical testing. The trial is supervised by McMaster University in Hamilton, Canada, and conducted in Brazil.....

Among the 1,500 patients in the study, he said, Ivermectin showed “no effect whatsoever” on the trial’s outcome goals — whether patients required extended observation in the emergency room or hospitalization.

“In our specific trial,” he said, “we do not see the treatment benefit that a lot of the advocates believe should have been” seen.....

The findings on Ivermectin are yet another blow for advocates promoting the drug as a magic bullet against COVID-19. Ivermectin was developed as a treatment for parasitical diseases, mostly for veterinarians, though it’s also used against some human parasites.
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Major study of Ivermectin, the anti-vaccine crowd's latest COVID drug, finds 'no effect whatsoever' (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 OP
Not surprised but it is too bad lapfog_1 Aug 2021 #1
Fenofibrate (Tricor) roamer65 Aug 2021 #3
Indeed. If it had been a miracle cure it would have been obvious months ago Rstrstx Aug 2021 #7
"FaKe NeWs!!!!!!1!!!1!!!!" RockRaven Aug 2021 #2
"We won't get vaxed....Now if you'll excuse us, we're off to the farm store for animal medicine." LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #6
I love that the scientific method was used in this study LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #4
SOMEONE STUDIED THAT??? Grins Aug 2021 #5

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. Not surprised but it is too bad
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:27 PM
Aug 2021

It would be great to have a cheap available drug to fight this pandemic, one already tested in humans. Having a therapeutic to treat Covid would save untold suffering in the coming year or so, possibly longer.

In addition, let's not dismiss Ivermectin as ""just a horse de-worming drug", it has improved the lives of countless people in poorer nations around the world.


Discovered in the late-1970s, the pioneering drug ivermectin, a dihydro derivative of avermectin—originating solely from a single microorganism isolated at the Kitasato Institute, Tokyo, Japan from Japanese soil—has had an immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people throughout the world. Originally introduced as a veterinary drug, it kills a wide range of internal and external parasites in commercial livestock and companion animals. It was quickly discovered to be ideal in combating two of the world’s most devastating and disfiguring diseases which have plagued the world’s poor throughout the tropics for centuries. It is now being used free-of-charge as the sole tool in campaigns to eliminate both diseases globally. It has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found. This paper looks in depth at the events surrounding ivermectin’s passage from being a huge success in Animal Health into its widespread use in humans, a development which has led many to describe it as a “wonder” drug.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
7. Indeed. If it had been a miracle cure it would have been obvious months ago
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 03:04 AM
Aug 2021

This finding comes as no surprise, the Australians that first performed the experiment on the virus with Ivermectin noted it would take an insanely high amount in the body to come close to replicating the results they saw in the lab, well beyond what a human could tolerate.

I’ve heard Pfizer is working on a covid pill, it can’t come soon enough. Perhaps they need to work on a pill to fix stupid.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
2. "FaKe NeWs!!!!!!1!!!1!!!!"
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:28 PM
Aug 2021

I heard an interview today with a reporter who covers MAGAts/RWNJs for a living (that's a helluva job) and he said that because:
A) this was a niche drug in humans the human pharmacy supply is limited, never mind convincing your doctor to write a prescription for it, and
B) sources of veterinary formulations (like Amazon and other online retailers) don't require prescriptions from human doctors,
means that of course these lunatics are having impassioned discussions online about whether the horse medicine or the sheep medicine is better, and how to convert the dosing to human weights, and the like.

And, FYI, the horse version is very popular, apparently. The journo speculated that was because it is apple flavored.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,176 posts)
6. "We won't get vaxed....Now if you'll excuse us, we're off to the farm store for animal medicine."
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:58 AM
Aug 2021

I have seen this drug promoted on the RWNJ sites.


LetMyPeopleVote

(145,176 posts)
4. I love that the scientific method was used in this study
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:33 PM
Aug 2021

The concept of controls and proper scientific methodology were used https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid

The Ivermectin camp, as I reported earlier, is heavily peopled by anti-vaccination advocates and conspiracy mongers. They maintain that the truth about the drug has been suppressed by agents of the pharmaceutical industry, which ostensibly prefers to collect the more generous profits that will flow from COVID vaccines.

The problem, however, is that the scientific trials cited by Ivermectin advocates have been too small or poorly documented to prove their case. One large trial from Egypt that showed the most significant therapeutic effect was withdrawn from its publishers due to accusations of plagiarism and bogus data.

Nevertheless, the advocates have continued to press their case — without necessarily observing accepted standards of scientific discourse. During the symposium, Mills complained that serious researchers looking into claims for COVID treatments have faced unprecedented abuse from advocates.....

Mills said that his team’s Ivermectin trial was altered after advocacy groups complained that it was too modest to achieve the results they expected. The trial originally tested the results from a single Ivermectin dose in January this year, but was later changed to involve one daily dose for three days of 400 micrograms of the drug for every kilogram (about 2.2 pounds) of the patients’ weight, up to 90 kilograms.

Half the subjects received a placebo tablet. No clinical results were detected at either dosage, Mills said.
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