I like Nichole Wallace, but

[maxrandb]

she just spent 20 minutes of her show, basically blaming Democrats for Retrumplicans voter suppression.

Maybe the focus should be on the racist, authoritarian asspickle party that is pushing racist, authoritarian voting suppression laws and appointing racist, authoritarian judges to our courts to enable tin-pot dictator shit in this country.

It's like watching someone abuse their spouse, and concentrating all the blame on the neighbor next door.

[JoanofArgh]

1. I didn't get that from it at all. She was saying the Voting Rights Act needed to be passed before

Dems do anything else or we could lose our democracy. And she was right. John Heilemann said he wouldn't be surprised if it keeps getting put off for other bills.

[maxrandb]

5. I get that, but

Why is it that every time Retrumplicans do racist, authoritarian crap, the media always frame it as "Democrats are failing to stop them"...?

It's pretty effing ridiculous

"Why aren't these people doing something to stop this horrible stuff other people are doing"?

"There's no point to talk about the people that are actually doing the horrible stuff, why that would be a waste of time...better to frame it as the other side failing to stop them...that's the real story

[Bettie]

30. Because them doing racist authoritarian crap

is, well, just another day. It is literally who they are and what they do.

Unfortunately, we do need to stop them, especially since lower courts MIGHT help until the SCOTUS says "Nah, voter suppression is fine, we love it! Go for it!" and we're in a place where they can literally just decide the election regardless of silly things like results and what candidate got more votes.

We have the ability to stop them, but we have a bunch of roadblocks in the form of a few Democratic senators who seemingly don't care if we lose our rights and our republic.

[bullwinkle428]

27. Thank you - I was applauding in my car when they made this point.

[LakeArenal]

2. She's a Bush appointee. Nuff said.

[joetheman]

18. She is also wise and speaks inconvenient truths. nt

[LakeArenal]

20. Yes but she has a Bush Republican mind set.

She just hated trump as we all do.

I’m not saying she’s a bad person.

[Hortensis]

19. No, it isn't. There's an enormous difference between moderate, principled

conservatives who oppose what the GOP's become -- like Nicolle Wallace -- and corrupt far RWers -- like anchor Laura Ingraham or Bush appointee Elaine Chao.

[LakeArenal]

25. She has a Republican bias. She's never denounced W or anything he did.

Funny no one can give W an inch when his minions were right there with him. As we know, the minions are the enablers.

Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace were right there.

[Hortensis]

26. The purpose of demonization is to create a phony justification for

ramping up hostility and bad behaviors.

And in this case, demonization is of half the nation, all colors, religions, genders, ethnicities, ideologies, locations, backgrounds, education, vocations.

That's what trumpists did. And just look at what it did to them and what they've become as a result: radicalized, hostile, and crazy-ignorant and stupid. Ever tried to talk politics with one of those demonizers?

[LakeArenal]

28. I never said she was a trumpet. I never said she was evil.

I never said anything but she has a “Old” Republican bias. I’m not demonizing her either.

Basically did you say I’m a phony?

Because she has said some very Republican things that I know she stands by.

She hated Trump. Well everyone hates trump. No body gets extra credit for hating him and his regime. You just gain entry into more a sane political arena.

I disliked when she was fired from the View. I knew she’d be replaced by worse.
She was. We had Jedadiarea then Maggot Mc Cain. I hated Wallace on her stint in Fux Youz. Before that she worked for Jen Bush then W Bush then on MCCain’s campaign. She a pure bred old school Republican.

[Hortensis]

29. Enlarging on "nuf said" does help. Sorry that I assumed you were

among those spewing mindless, completely undifferentiated hostility here. Fear's causing a lot of that.

I seem to differentiate still more, though. I can accept and respect moderate conservatives who are constrained by morality and decency and support democracy, even if they weren't always that way.

We stopped winning when we lost the ability to ally with moderate conservatives to make needed changes and check the extremes of both sides. Southern conservative culture and libertarianism had already taken over the GOP and moving extreme, purging traditional conservatism, when Wallace came on the scene, and you describe a lot she was part of.

But bottom line, she's since been forced to realize how bad that was, with worse coming, and broke with it. She's shown her political decisions, now at least, are constrained by morality and decency, and she's a strong supporter of democracy.

Simple reality, we need Wallace's principled and courageous stand multiplied by millions who've been voting Republican much too long, or we will at some point founder. I see no virtue or utility in defining her by her past instead of by how she's influencing people in this critical era. Of course, MSNBC (NBCUniversal/Comcast) tries to keep majority power in conservative hands the same as CNN and Fox. That's a given.

[Doremus]

3. She's a republican.

[JI7]

13. No she isn't. And this it's more frustration at Democrats and not blaming them

[themaguffin]

23. Exactly

[msongs]

4. dems have the votes and authority to pass a voting rights bill but several dems are blocking

such a move

[dawg]

6. Manchin & Sinema.

Let's put the blame where the blame is due.

It isn't "Democrats" who aren't prioritizing voting rights.

We just don't have the votes.

Thanks to those two Senators. (And perhaps one or two more who are less courageous about their obstruction.)

[FloridaBlues]

7. I usually watch her but have noticed her getting on Dems a bit more esp today

Her 2 guests had a 20 min rant about what dems aren’t doing. Perhaps there’s more behind the scenes than any of them know about in the Senate. Hope this doesn’t continue the closer it gets to election.

[ZonkerHarris]

8. You only liked her cause she was anti Trump. Now her true colors will show and she'll have problems

with HOW Democrats do things etc...whine whine whine.

[JI7]

14. She is still anti Trump. She supports voting rights bills .

[themaguffin]

24. That's bullshit. Her true colors? She and her guests consistently stated how awful it is what the

GOP is doing.

FFS.

[chillfactor]

9. muted her today n/t

[uponit7771]

10. Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link), If that's what she said I agree

... with her at this point.

Voter suppression has been messaged as a mostly black thing and people don't backlash in the year this happens.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/21/monmouth-poll-americans-back-both-early-voting-voter-id-requirements/7774904002/

At 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression after several cycles.

[XanaDUer2]

11. Glad I'm missing her today

watching Midsomer Murders instead

[hannah]

12. Nicole Republican

She is a freaking Republican. Same as most of the MSNBC hosts. Notice she spoke about Democrats with only Republican guests. What a joke.
Why are there no former Democratic Congress people hosting a show. Surely have Republican ( Morning Joe). Why no Democratic operative with a show? (Nicole Wallace)
MSNBC had become unwatchable. They make me want to puke

[11 Bravo]

17. False. She is NOT a Republican.

[Hortensis]

21. No, she WAS a Republican for decades. She would have given up

on her party before she did, but like so many others she didn't believe they would become so intensely corrupt and traitorous. They thought more mainstream cons would have limits and apply the brakes to the skid. That didn't happen, and she and others finally denounced them all.

Btw, elections these days are won and lost by dangerously thin margins, power swinging back and forth. HOW do the good guys win consistently enough to keep the RW from finally destroying us all?

[kentuck]

15. I never interpreted it that way?

My impression was that she was trying to advise Democrats on how best to fight the voter suppression by the Republicans?

She was right. They are fighting, not just for democracy, but for the survival of the Democratic Party. If they don't fix this voter suppression issue, then it could be the end of the Democratic Party. That will be the fault of the Democrats, not the Republicans, if they refuse to do what must be done.

[gab13by13]

16. Well written Kentuck

IMO Nicolle is the best Democratic voice on cable news.

As far as her being a Republican, St. Paul was also Saul at one time.

[kentuck]

22. I agree.

I wish the "real" Democrats were as passionate and out-spoken as Nicolle.