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eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 12:15 PM Aug 2021

This went by kinda quick, but deserves att'n -- known fraudster supplied "cyberdata" to Mike Lindell

But as Aaron Blake notes at the "Washington Post" today, there was one really handy bit of confirmation in this proclamation from Mike Lindell`s cyber expert that he didn`t actually have any data proving the election. When he made these comments to "The Washington Times" saying that Lindell`s data didn`t prove the election was stolen, Lindell confirmed to "The Washington Times" the source of this supposed data on which Lindell has built this whole conspiracy theory -- these months of rantings and ravings and fake documentaries and symposia and websites and exposes and all the rest, including the reinstatement in August fantasy.

Where does this date come from that Lindell has used as the basis for all these months of agitation on this issue? Well, his cyber expert confirmed, the actual material that is the basis for these claims has been provided by a man named Dennis Montgomery.

And I`m guessing you do not recognize that name, but you might remember him from these headlines not long ago. The man who conned the Pentagon. Also, how a Reno casino conman duped the CIA and pulled off one of the most dangerous hoaxes in American history.

National security and intelligence reporter James Rosen wrote a book in 2014 about this guy. It`s about other things, too, but a big part was that this guy conning people and conning the government out of huge sums of cash, including by him claiming that he could decode news stories broadcast by al Jazeera and inside those news stories, he could access magic secret al Qaeda messages because he could find them in the pixels.

He couldn`t find them in the pixels. That was all made up. And it had been suspected for a long while. You see the data from "The Daily Beast", November 9, 2020. It had been suspected for a long while that this legendary con artist had sold a new version of his con to the Trump secretly won the election people.

https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-8-12-21-n1276801


Perhaps an equally damning revelation Wednesday came in something else Merritt said. He confirmed the source of the cyber-data as Dennis Montgomery. It has been suspected that Montgomery was the source, given graphics similar to the ones Lindell has used have appeared on Montgomery’s website, but Merritt confirmed it.

Why is that important? Because Montgomery has, to put it kindly, a spotty history with this kind of thing.

The New York Times reported in 2011 that the U.S. government was trying to keep secret the details of an arrangement in which Montgomery promised to provide technology to catch terrorists. Montgomery claimed he could decode secret al-Qaeda messages embedded in Al Jazeera broadcasts. He received more than $20 million in government contracts.

But his own former lawyer indicated the government was clamming up because the technology was bogus and wanted to avoid embarrassment. He also called him a “con man.” French officials reviewed Montgomery’s work after being wrapped up in the consequences of it — the Bush administration actually grounded certain international flights because of it in 2003 — and came to a similar conclusion. Current and former intelligence officials told PBS in 2014 that it was one of the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in U.S. history.

More recently, Montgomery got then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio to pay him $100,000 in money from the sheriff’s office to pursue a theory involving a federal government conspiracy against Arpaio. Arpaio later acknowledged the theory was baseless.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/12/spectacular-implosion-mike-lindell/
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This went by kinda quick, but deserves att'n -- known fraudster supplied "cyberdata" to Mike Lindell (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Aug 2021 OP
Ha haha Dan Aug 2021 #1
Steganography is a "thing", but this guy is just a con man...... getagrip_already Aug 2021 #2
Larry Klayman was his counsel in 2015 chowder66 Aug 2021 #3
So he's not just defrauding the fraudsters -- he's actually trying to help them win. eppur_se_muova Aug 2021 #4
Just an endless cabal of grifters. nt chowder66 Aug 2021 #5

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
2. Steganography is a "thing", but this guy is just a con man......
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 12:33 PM
Aug 2021

It involves hiding data in graphic image files, and has been around for decades. Someone claiming to have detected it in video broadcasts, and more importantly could decode it, would be of interest to any intelligence agency.

So it was probably worth the money to the gov't to find out if it was real or a hoax.

And he probably received a lot less, and had to return it in any event. None of that process would be public.

If this were russia, he would have had an overdose.

chowder66

(9,069 posts)
3. Larry Klayman was his counsel in 2015
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:54 PM
Aug 2021

Last edited Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

Terrorist software hoax
National Public Radio reported, "For several months starting in the fall of 2003, Montgomery's analysis led directly to national code orange security alerts and cancelled flights. The only problem: he was making it all up."[8]

Montgomery's software claims were reportedly responsible for a false terror alert which grounded international flights and caused Department of Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge to raise the government's security level.[9] In February 2006, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and U.S. Air Force office of Special Investigations opened an economic espionage and theft of intellectual property investigation into Montgomery and Blxware.[10]

In 2015, Montgomery, through his counsel Larry Klayman, sued James Risen, the author of Pay Any Price: Greed, Power, and Endless War, for defamation, alleging the book falsely described Montgomery as "the maestro behind what many current and former U.S. officials and others familiar with the case now believe was one of the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history."[11] In 2016, a federal court dismissed Montgomery's lawsuit.[12] In November 2017, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit affirmed the dismissal.

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Wiretapping allegations
In the wake of the Trump Tower wiretapping allegations, Klayman on Montgomery's behalf claimed that Montgomery had evidence that security agencies have been involved in "systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans", including Donald Trump and Jerome Corsi. Mike Zullo, a former member of the MSCO's cold-case posse, similarly echoed the claims about Montgomery's data; Zullo, however, had previously doubted the authenticity of the data.[23]

In June 2017, Montgomery and Klayman jointly sued James Comey and other federal government officials, alleging a coverup of evidence that, according to Montgomery, shows the existence of widespread illegal surveillance by the federal government.[24] In March 2018, the federal district court dismissed their lawsuit.

According to Klayman, Montgomery also claimed these security agencies had manipulated voting in Florida during the 2008 United States presidential election.[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_L._Montgomery

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
4. So he's not just defrauding the fraudsters -- he's actually trying to help them win.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 05:18 PM
Aug 2021

Making up bogus evidence may not be the best way to do that. Apparently he's convinced he's smart enough to pull it off.

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