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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCardinal Burke, vax skeptic, has covid, is on ventilator
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cardinal-burke-has-covid-is-on-ventilator/article_28639900-9c76-5481-b7ad-62266e605d0b.html"Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, archbishop emeritus of St. Louis, is ill with COVID-19 and has been placed on a ventilator, according to a Saturday night tweet from his Twitter account.
Doctors are encouraged by his progress. (His Eminence) faithfully prayed the Rosary for those suffering from the virus. On this Vigil of the Assumption, let us now pray the Rosary for him, the tweet said.
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Burke, 73, was Archbishop of St. Louis from 2003 to 2008. He went to the Vatican to become a member of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, the highest judicial authority in the Catholic Church, aside from the Pope. He is currently Cardinal Priest of SantAgata de Goti in Rome.
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According to the National Catholic Reporter, Burke has expressed skepticism about the need for distancing measures to contain the coronavirus and has opposed mandatory vaccination schemes.
In a homily given last December, Burke called COVID the Wuhan virus, and said, It has been used by certain forces inimical to families and to the freedom of nations, to advance their evil agenda.
According to LifeSiteNews.Com, Burke in a May 2020 address to the Rome Life Forum said vaccinations should not be forced "in a totalitarian manner" on people.
Burke, the website said, also said "there is a certain movement to insist that now everyone must be vaccinated against the coronavirus COVID-19 and even that a kind of microchip needs to be placed under the skin of every person, so that any moment he or she can be controlled by the State regarding health and about other matters which we can only imagine."...(more)
Demovictory9
(32,488 posts)multigraincracker
(32,742 posts)didn't get to spread his "evil agenda". Any religion that can not adapt to its current environment is doomed to fail.
jimfields33
(16,066 posts)He clearly wont even listen to the pope.
certainot
(9,090 posts)it's that nasty Certainty Deficit Disorder
Skittles
(153,258 posts)fucking moron
Demovictory9
(32,488 posts)AZ8theist
(5,524 posts)Thoughts and prayers...
Comfortably_Numb
(3,841 posts)Religion is faith, to each their own. Science is fact. KellyAnne, notwithstanding, science does not exist as alternative fact.
littlemissmartypants
(22,843 posts)epidemiologists, virologists and infectious disease physician specialists for the last year and a half.
It's not like the priesthood doesn't pay above minimum wage. Did he really need that second job?
We're finding out what crappy leaders we have in our society, that's for sure.
Eugene
(61,974 posts)Freedom on Earth to be rewarded in Heaven?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Sorry.
UpInArms
(51,287 posts)Why did he need to go to the hospital?
HUAJIAO
(2,406 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Scrivener7
(51,074 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,874 posts)themaguffin
(3,829 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)themaguffin
(3,829 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,874 posts)themaguffin
(3,829 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,874 posts)I got my "theys" mixed up.
Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)Belief in make believe, elitism, self-importance and -aggrandizement. Traits seen in 98% of Christians.
Elessar Zappa
(14,112 posts)Religion isnt all bad.
Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)What good are you as a human being if you need fear of the make believe to make you do the thing won by our hard-fought evolutionary battles?
themaguffin
(3,829 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)where he says if you cant hate your immediate family you cant love him? That gospel?
themaguffin
(3,829 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)but treat it as a metaphor when that works better than literalism.
Got it!
Mariana
(14,861 posts)What do you think Jesus was trying to say?
themaguffin
(3,829 posts)Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)themaguffin
(3,829 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Even kick aside religious training. As we see.
This guy couldnt have become a cardinal if he was technically stupid, but his personality makes him very stupid, submerging his intellect and morality and denyimg truth whenever they interfere with what he wants to believe.
We see it all the time as people of real intellectual attainments in other fields seemingly become dumb as a bag of rocks and indifferent to facts when indulging their worst on public issues, spouting the same hostility-driven factionalism as a bunch of low achievement buffoons over their third beers.
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Celerity
(43,662 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Archconservative, so not at all surprised hes anti-vax.
2naSalit
(86,889 posts)arlyellowdog
(866 posts)I will not comment further for fear of Divine Retribution
pwb
(11,296 posts)about everything. Time to hang up the robes and retire and maybe buy a few guns to play with instead of you know what.
BumRushDaShow
(129,849 posts)is trying to get rid of the fake crap coming out of their loon wing - https://apnews.com/article/science-coronavirus-pandemic-religion-health-2c0e95a2171b7ff9ed63171e8edd3db5
and both Francis and his predecessor got their first doses back in January - https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/europe/pope-francis-covid-19-vaccine-intl/index.html
The irony of this one using the phrase "in a totalitarian manner" just goes to show how disconnected people like him are about what is essentially their own "doctrine" foisted on others "in a totalitarian manner".
Demnation
(391 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)mgardener
(1,824 posts)Proverbs 1:22
Fools, how long will you love being ignorant? How long will you make fun of wisdom? How long will you hate knowledge?
NJCher
(35,792 posts)And its amazing it has to be said now.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That whole snake/apple story has been used to control people for thousands of years.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)the people are warned not to eat the fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (lest they die) -- but they get confused, and say they have been told not to eat from the tree in the middle of the Garden. In their confusion, then, they eat the forbidden fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, hoping to obtain Life, and they are driven away from the Garden: one rabbinical commentary asserts that they were driven away to prevent them from destroying the Tree of Life
There are many varieties of "knowledge." Not all varieties help us live well.
Ziggysmom
(3,430 posts)Vinca
(50,323 posts)First up: the Bill Gates Special Sanity Chip.
paleotn
(17,994 posts)About the condition of his "eminence" that is. The more religo-wankers karma variant takes out, the better. Hate to be that way, but they asked for it and deserve it.
ProfessorGAC
(65,325 posts)I'll raise your "I don't care" to "I hope he dies from COVID!". There, I said it!
paleotn
(17,994 posts)Donkees
(31,510 posts)"Sometime around 2.10 a.m. as the Titanic began settling more quickly into the icy North Altantic, the sounds of ragtime, familiar dance tunes and popular waltzes that had floated reassuringly across her decks suddenly stopped as Bandmaster Wallace Hartley tapped his bow against his violin. Hartley and his musicians, all wearing their lifebelts now, were standing back at the base of the second funnel, on the roof of the First Class Lounge, where they had been playing for the better part of an hour. There were a few moments of silence, then the solemn strains of the hymn "Nearer My God to Thee" began drifting across the water. It was with a perhaps unintended irony that Hartley chose a hymn that pleaded for the mercy of the Almighty, as the ultimate material conceit of the Edwardian Age, the ship that "God Himself couldn't sink," foundered beneath his feet. As the band played, the slant of the deck grew steeper, while from within the hull came a rapidly increasing number of thuds, bangs and crashes as interior furnishings broke loose, walls and partitions collapsed--the Titanic was only moments from breaking apart."
Adapted from www.rmstitanicremembered.com
Tanuki
(14,926 posts)Lyrics:
It was midnight on the sea,
Band playin' "Nearer My God to Thee"
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Titanic when it got its load,
Captail hollered, "All aboard, "
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Jack Johnson want to get on board,
Captain said, "I ain't hauling no coal, "
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Titanic was comin 'round the curve,
When she ran in to a big iceberg,
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Titanic was sinkin' down,
Had lifeboats all around
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Had them lifeboats all around,
Savin the women and children, lettin' men go down,
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
Jack Johnson heard the mighty shock
Mighta seen him doin' the Eagle Rock
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
When the women and children got to land,
Crying "Lord have mercy on my man, "
Cryin', "Fare thee, Titanic, fare the well, "
gordianot
(15,249 posts)Response to Tanuki (Original post)
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milestogo
(16,829 posts)I don't think that spot is taken.
lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)hatrack
(59,597 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)apparently loves Trump.
The U.S. Cardinal Crusading Against the Catholic President-Elect
https://www.thedailybeast.com/cardinal-raymond-burke-hates-joe-biden-americas-second-catholic-president
GopherGal
(2,010 posts)to determine if he was the Archbishop who wanted the boycott of girl scout cookies because of their support of organizations that promote access to birth control and abortion. Turns out that wasn't him (it was his successor), but I read enough to be reminded why I fell away from the church.
LeftInTX
(25,697 posts)This is where he's assigned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sant%27Agata_de%27_Goti,_Rome
lindysalsagal
(20,782 posts)LeftInTX
(25,697 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,761 posts)but I guess God was busy that day.
Sibelius Fan
(24,397 posts)let us not forget this inspirational verse from Ezekiel:
She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkeys and emissions like those of a horse.
mcar
(42,426 posts)BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)What a guy.
twin_ghost
(435 posts)Superstitious beliefs.
dalton99a
(81,663 posts)Cadfael
(1,299 posts)At the very least, because of the thoughts Im having about His Eminence
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If any of that nonsense even exists.
twodogsbarking
(9,874 posts)Cadfael
(1,299 posts)After all it is purgatory
634-5789
(4,175 posts)He is an insane Teapublican who loves Trump and who believes Pope Francis is a heretic. He is a source of disinformation, discrimination, and dissent. He is responsible for much evil in the Church and the world. May he receive mercy as he deserves.
Hekate
(90,942 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)humanity would be much better off.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...may have imposed their verdict on this nutcase.